2013-11-11 00:00 hmm yes, the products of boundless productivity meeting lack of direction are often troublesome 2013-11-11 00:01 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 00:40 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2013-11-11 01:52 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2013-11-11 01:56 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2013-11-11 02:23 s/intergar/integra/ 2013-11-11 03:33 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-11-11 03:36 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 04:02 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 04:54 viric: all right then, ill change the md5sum in aur packacge 2013-11-11 05:00 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 07:02 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 07:34 kyak: make it use 0.7.1! 2013-11-11 07:34 faster, harder, scooter 2013-11-11 07:35 whitequark: is there any place where all anti-poettering can meet? 2013-11-11 07:35 it looks to me that it's a spread thing 2013-11-11 07:41 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-11-11 07:59 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 08:27 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 08:29 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-11-11 08:34 regarding implants, that's how you do it: https://backyardbrains.com/products/roboroach 2013-11-11 08:34 note that it even includes illumination :) 2013-11-11 08:35 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 08:36 best sentence on the page: "The cockroach is anesthetized during the surgery" 2013-11-11 08:37 Isn't it fake? :) 2013-11-11 08:38 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 08:41 dunno. looks technically correct. 2013-11-11 09:00 and it's not like it is new technology 2013-11-11 09:02 the surgery http://wiki.backyardbrains.com/RoboRoach_Surgery is very interesting 2013-11-11 09:02 it'd be nice to support 'flying mode' 2013-11-11 09:03 from the video I don't see it very succesful though :) 2013-11-11 09:12 hmm. they're targting this at kids. so ... add a little "payload" (explosive), and you have both a schoolboy's wettest dream ever and a schoolgirl's worst nightmare at the same time. 2013-11-11 09:13 "Following a brief surgery you perform on the cockroach to attach the silver electrodes..." 2013-11-11 09:13 It reminds me of the Starship Troopers classroom lesson 2013-11-11 09:14 hmm. so that's what started the war ... 2013-11-11 09:15 According to the canadian ex-minister of defense, aliens are among us, at least four races. And two races help the White House. 2013-11-11 09:16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcbCafpvIT0 2013-11-11 09:22 hmm, must be five, with three on the white house 2013-11-11 09:22 romulans, ferengi, and of course the borg 2013-11-11 09:23 you may be more up to date than I :) 2013-11-11 09:31 viric: ok, will do 2013-11-11 09:44 mth has quit [] 2013-11-11 09:44 not to forget the lizard people 2013-11-11 09:45 larsc: are these ET too? 2013-11-11 09:47 sure 2013-11-11 09:47 I think 2013-11-11 09:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians 2013-11-11 09:49 I think he just wants to sell his book 2013-11-11 09:51 or maybe snowdens greatest leak is still to come 2013-11-11 09:58 ha, everyone trusts snowden, and noone trusts the canadian minister of defence? 2013-11-11 09:59 Anonymous or Snowden will not say about ETs, because they ride on "what the people want to hear". 2013-11-11 10:01 'snowden was an inside job!' ;) 2013-11-11 10:01 exactly :) 2013-11-11 10:02 but anonymous or snowden would have the reputation very affected, if they talk about ETs. 2013-11-11 10:02 so they can only explain what the people want to hear. 2013-11-11 10:05 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-11-11 12:06 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 12:14 wpwrak: re roboroach: no this is not fake, the experiment is incredibly well known 2013-11-11 12:15 seen it in TV 2013-11-11 12:15 surprisingly kickstarter didn't kill the project so I guess they will even deliver 2013-11-11 12:16 on the bright side: no cockroaches here 2013-11-11 12:17 cockroaches sort of disappeared from moscow several years ago (~a decade), no one knows precisely why 2013-11-11 12:17 I haven't seen one in a veeeeery long time 2013-11-11 12:17 guess the conditions here are worse than after a nuclear war? 2013-11-11 12:19 hah 2013-11-11 12:19 prolly 2013-11-11 12:20 or they have all been turned into roboroaches fighting for the kgb 2013-11-11 12:20 I'm pretty sure WLAN or car catalyzers or PTFE bottles or tequila killed them 2013-11-11 12:21 or what larsc says 2013-11-11 12:23 DocScrutinizer05: (wlan) lol, the top "popular" hypothesis is "GSM killed roaches" 2013-11-11 12:23 second one is "GMO" 2013-11-11 12:24 official one is that moscow govt demolished a lot of old shitty buildings with wooden parts and simultaneously cracked down on sanitary norms for businesses 2013-11-11 12:24 see, I'm good at "knowledge of the masses" 2013-11-11 12:25 YOUR WORKING ON GSM YOUR A ROACH KILLER!!1one 2013-11-11 12:26 Genetically Manipulated Organisms? 2013-11-11 12:26 quite possible 2013-11-11 12:26 I'd pick this when I had to choose 2013-11-11 12:26 cheers Monsanto 2013-11-11 12:27 modified, yes 2013-11-11 12:27 not sure if sarcasm or wears a tinfoil hat :D 2013-11-11 12:28 hey, BT-corn is the hugest experiment with humans ever made 2013-11-11 12:28 cockroaches are only a colateral damage 2013-11-11 12:29 you know that BT-corn produces its own insecticide 2013-11-11 12:30 yeah 2013-11-11 12:31 and while it allegedly is used only to feed cattle, it *of course* is *everywhere*, even on your pizza 2013-11-11 12:32 so no tinfoil hat 2013-11-11 12:32 DocScrutinizer05: quick reply: if it doesn't kill cattle (or bioaccumulate in it), it's not going to kill me 2013-11-11 12:33 slow reply: let me look through pubmed for studies of Bt endotoxin effect on humans. pretty sure the result is a definite "nothing ever happens unless you eat a bucket of it". 2013-11-11 12:33 and even if it kills you somebody else will survive, that's natural selection ;) 2013-11-11 12:33 but all those hormone-homologues in plastics are also quite syspicious and ubiquitous, but I somehow doubt they can kill cockroaches 2013-11-11 12:34 whitequark: what makes you think it doesn't kill cattle? cattle average live span: 4 years (guess) 2013-11-11 12:35 DocScrutinizer05: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23029407, for instance 2013-11-11 12:35 "No toxic effect was observed for the trypsin-activated Cry toxins in mammalian cells" 2013-11-11 12:36 blablabla 2013-11-11 12:36 * whitequark shrugs 2013-11-11 12:36 you want to believe, it's your right to disregard everything that doesn't fit into your preexisting opinion 2013-11-11 12:36 can't do anything with it. 2013-11-11 12:37 you know that iriginally nutrasweet was not approved and considered harmful, until NestleĀ“ paid several mio to the right guys 2013-11-11 12:37 originally* / initially 2013-11-11 12:37 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 12:37 Leon777 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 12:38 you also probably know that in the late 40s or the 50s they sold cigarettes with asbestos filter 2013-11-11 12:39 DocScrutinizer05: ok. so what's your resolution? abandon using a likely safe, low-dosage insecticide treatment and instead wash the plants from planes with gigantic amounts of known much more toxic insecticides? 2013-11-11 12:39 (cigarettes) the asbestos part is funny, but let's look at the fact they still sell cigarettes first... 2013-11-11 12:40 I sugest to do what all farmers do in Europe 2013-11-11 12:40 NOT use GMO, and give monsanto the finger 2013-11-11 12:41 monsanto should get killed with fire 2013-11-11 12:42 btw, you do understand gmo is not limited to naturally producing insecticides? 2013-11-11 12:42 yes 2013-11-11 12:42 jekhor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 12:44 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 12:44 hm, funny. Bt toxin (or rather, the Bt microorganism itself) is used as an externally applied insecticide either, in spray-on form 2013-11-11 12:44 is this what european farmers prefer to use? 2013-11-11 12:45 I also understand that immunity of bacteria against anitbiotica is not only induced by exposing the particular bacterium to the antibioticum, these critters share knowhow by transfer of DNA segments from one to the other, even across kinds and families 2013-11-11 12:46 (not that I would object, turns out you can eat live cultures with no apparant effects) 2013-11-11 12:47 what I want to say is: man has nfc what he's gambling with 2013-11-11 12:47 and my approach is to steer clear of anything you can't revert 2013-11-11 12:48 so you disapprove of artifical selection too? 2013-11-11 12:48 BT-corn spreads and nobody can control where it shows up 2013-11-11 12:49 since the result of that spreads as well and you can hardly control it 2013-11-11 12:49 in fact (I don't know whether this is done or not) it's quite easy to control the spread of GMO if you want. 2013-11-11 12:49 and yes, I think keeping certain species out of certain biotopes is mandatory 2013-11-11 12:51 Leon777 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 12:51 see rabbits in Australia, or (better example) the asian wood tick bug in Europe 2013-11-11 12:52 sure, I agree with that 2013-11-11 12:52 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 12:52 noo dos1 2013-11-11 12:52 moo even :-) 2013-11-11 12:54 FDCX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 12:55 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 12:55 DocScrutinizer05: and most importantly keep the human out of most biotopes ;) 2013-11-11 12:57 larsc: that too :-) 2013-11-11 12:58 whitequark: however, regarding cockroach i'd not surprised to learn they can survive a nuvlear war but don't like Bis(2-ethylhexyl) phthalate (DEHP) 2013-11-11 12:59 (which probably is an even huger mass experiment on humans than the BT-corn) 2013-11-11 13:01 I simply don't like the approach of "we fed it to 500 mice and they all were still alive 1 day later, so let's add it to food for humans now since it helps optimize one aspect of industrial production" 2013-11-11 13:03 you can always move to a cabin in the woods ;) 2013-11-11 13:04 how do you suggest transitioning to humans instead? 2013-11-11 13:04 eah, sure 2013-11-11 13:23 particularly the USA have a long record of allowing everybody to sell everything claiming whatever they like - like e.g. table water "activated" with radon that allegedly helps against aging and whatnot. Must be a direct result of their snake-oil salesmen in the early centuries of this country 2013-11-11 13:23 of course unless it's somehow of interest for the FDA and might be considered a drug 2013-11-11 13:24 then they as well may forbid whatever they like, and imprison you for some 10 or 20 years for even owning it 2013-11-11 13:25 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-11-11 13:38 s/FDA/DEA/ 2013-11-11 13:38 the FDA is blind and ignorant and has the brain of a germ 2013-11-11 13:50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis(2-ethylhexyl)_phthalate 2013-11-11 13:51 to me it feels like worldwide fight is banning one hazardous issue per year but same time we seen like 20 or 100 new ones each year 2013-11-11 13:52 due to general mindset of "as long as it's not proven to be dangerous we will use it" 2013-11-11 13:54 and "we are interested in any negative effects _only_ if they cost us money" 2013-11-11 13:55 moo 2013-11-11 14:05 hm 2013-11-11 14:06 (where have the cockroaches gone ?) i think you're missing the obvious. after the fall of the iron curtain, the CIA simply recalled most of its agents. 2013-11-11 14:07 hahaha 2013-11-11 14:09 (safety of GMO) i'd be surprised if these things caused acute intoxication. but we have enough more subtle things that are clearly on an increase, such as (dangerous) allergies, that fit the profile of something that would slip through those studies rather well. 2013-11-11 14:11 (artificial selection) i think the problem there isn't that it's artificial but that its pace can easily exceed the change rate of natural selection. this in turn means that the (naturally evolved) mechanisms to adapt to such changes fall behind. 2013-11-11 14:16 wpwrak: true, but that's not specific to GMO. we're eating much more stuff we didn't eat for long, most of it is not related to GMO or is plain out natural. 2013-11-11 14:17 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 14:18 (selection) any changes humanity can perform, either by selection or modification, are incredibly tiny compared to what happens naturally 2013-11-11 14:19 by the way, the mechanisms ("you die if you're not good enough" ?) work quite well against changes people do. antibiotic-resistant bacteria, pesticide-resistant insects, etc, etc... happens quite fast. 2013-11-11 14:38 yes, short-lived organisms definitely have an advantage there 2013-11-11 14:41 (selection) i mean the rate at which humans can adapt to outside changes. not all of them require humans to keep up 1:1. we also have mechanisms that "learn" without resorting to evolution, which simpler organisms working against these mechanisms may lack. so the change is more complex for the simpler organism. 2013-11-11 14:43 (humans) yes, I'd be more worried about the damage we do to ourselves. nature as a whole definitely outlives us :) 2013-11-11 14:45 well yes, being your own kind's worst enemy comes with being the universal apex predator :) 2013-11-11 15:23 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 15:56 dandon has quit [Quit: .] 2013-11-11 16:05 DocScrutinizer05: re FDA: sure, that's a problem, but it has nothing to do with technology itself (GMO, etc) 2013-11-11 16:06 I'm not sure what are you going to achieve by banning one tech (GMO) when ten new (with zero oversight) will pop in its place. 2013-11-11 16:06 I just don't want to get exposed to it 2013-11-11 16:07 then mandatory labelling will be enough. isn't it mandatory already? 2013-11-11 16:08 here in Russia, "no gmo" is something you see on a lot of products 2013-11-11 16:08 (... sort of like there used to be "no cholestrol" marking on vegetable oils :D) 2013-11-11 16:10 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 16:14 "< 1 ppb Pu 238" 2013-11-11 16:15 http://xkcd.com/641/ 2013-11-11 16:17 "does not contain unstable warp cores" 2013-11-11 16:17 (xkcd) yeah :) 2013-11-11 16:20 jekhor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 16:26 well, you're missing the point: nobody *can* announce "GMO free" anymore 2013-11-11 16:27 not even any honey 2013-11-11 16:27 virtually *every* US product contains GMO soy 2013-11-11 16:28 (tangentially: aren't you from/in Germany?) 2013-11-11 16:29 it's like stating "free of radioactive additives" in Japan 2013-11-11 16:29 yes, I'm from Germany and here we try hard to kick ass of monsanto, but they can't kept out of Europe leaglly 2013-11-11 16:29 legally even 2013-11-11 16:30 GMO soy shipping from US in volumes of megatons 2013-11-11 16:30 i suppose you get some from us down here as well 2013-11-11 16:30 monsanto agressively marketing they crappy BT-corn and fighting for allowance to grow it in the wild 2013-11-11 16:31 s/they/their/ 2013-11-11 16:31 DocScrutinizer05 meant: "monsanto agressively marketing their crappy BT-corn and fighting for allowance to grow it in the wild" 2013-11-11 16:31 (japan) that is a bad comparison, since from what I gather, anything out of fukushima is diluted to lower than background levels far before it can reach you 2013-11-11 16:31 or maybe good :) 2013-11-11 16:31 few farmers interested, but those few are enough already 2013-11-11 16:32 haha @ background levels 2013-11-11 16:32 maybe that's what they tell you in Russia 2013-11-11 16:32 iirc they found real hotspots even in Tokyo 2013-11-11 16:33 >http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2011/10/14/tokyo-radiation-hotspot-not-linked-fukushima 2013-11-11 16:33 ? 2013-11-11 16:33 but of course not ;-) 2013-11-11 16:34 http://fukushima-is-still-news.over-blog.com/article-hotspots-in-tokyo-should-at-least-be-checked-120491141.html 2013-11-11 16:34 I like when they say "the impossible happened, noone could forecast this", about fukushima 2013-11-11 16:34 which is something like "we got all wrong, when we built this, and we don't have any idea why yet" 2013-11-11 16:35 that being said the japanese govt seems to handle the whole situation awfully, regardless of its actual damage 2013-11-11 16:35 lying and hiding stuff 2013-11-11 16:35 exactly like GMO handling in Europe 2013-11-11 16:36 90% of residents don't want to see that crap here, yet they find new loopholes for monsanto to "enter the market" every other week 2013-11-11 16:37 90% don't even want to drink milk that's from cattle feeded with BT-corn 2013-11-11 16:38 but governments don't even demand to mark milk from such cattle so consumer had any choice 2013-11-11 16:38 you should've started with that :) 2013-11-11 16:38 they simply forcefeed that shit to us since monsanto wants to make big business 2013-11-11 16:40 "oh your bees in the hyve 5 miles away from that monsanto test area provide honey with GMO genes in it? Too bad but nothing we can do about it" 2013-11-11 16:40 "or your field with corn has 10% of GMO in it? SUCKER! You didn't pay monsanto for using their seeds!" 2013-11-11 16:41 side note: it's not easy to make a cell accept foreign dna even if you really want to, and know exactly what you put there 2013-11-11 16:41 no matter *how* those 10% GMO got on the field of that bio-farmer 2013-11-11 16:42 gmo genes in honey would be a truly tinfoil concern 2013-11-11 16:42 (pay monsanto) last time I checked that wasn't true 2013-11-11 16:42 I don't give a shit about anybody's notion how much "tinfoil hat concern2 it is, I don't want to get forcefed with such shit 2013-11-11 16:44 it's like you building a fab next to my door that exhausts lots of toxic stuff and you're arguing that my concerns are moot since I can't prove there is any damage done 2013-11-11 16:46 I think when somebody blows up such fab then it's also up to the fab owner to prove that explosion been caused by some enemy and not by their own evil mindset exceeding critical mass and causing a chain reaction 2013-11-11 16:46 when it's known it's toxic, you have just proven the damage. when it's not, yes, it's your responsibility 2013-11-11 16:47 and I think that's exactly what will happen if the fab blows up 2013-11-11 16:47 I'm NOT responsible to do scientific test on my neighbours toxic waste 2013-11-11 16:48 so you're asking him to stop doing X simply because you don't like X 2013-11-11 16:48 demanding him 2013-11-11 16:48 totally makes sense 2013-11-11 16:48 and I don't think monsanto has a god-given entitlement to sell and grow GMO here in Germany, when 90% of residents simply say "no way" 2013-11-11 16:50 however check the nutrasweet story how such things work in real life, with the corrupt governments we have 2013-11-11 16:52 claiming "bad vibes" or whatever casued by BT-corn grown in my country would clearly specify as "tin foil hat" concerns. Analytic proof of BT-genes in honey is something that obviously should allow me to send a C&D to monsanto 2013-11-11 16:54 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 16:54 but they baltantly lie denying any such things possible to ever happen when they apply for approval to grow their shit in the wild, and after they been proven wrong and BT-genes found everywhere, they say "oh well, but now it's too late to roll back any of that anyway, so we as well can continue on what we're doing" 2013-11-11 16:55 same for the BT insecticide itself. They deny any negative effects until proven wrong 2013-11-11 16:55 it's always the same 2013-11-11 16:56 [2013-11-11 14:52:42] due to general mindset of "as long as it's not proven to be dangerous we will use it" 2013-11-11 16:56 [2013-11-11 14:54:14] and "we are interested in any negative effects _only_ if they cost us money" 2013-11-11 16:57 to be found everywhere, all the time 2013-11-11 16:58 not only for GMO or food at large, but actually for every aspect of our life and planet 2013-11-11 17:00 so in essence you're mad at capitalism? 2013-11-11 17:00 well essential all domestic crops are gene manipulated, it was just a lot harder to make modifications back in the days where people relied on random mutations for this 2013-11-11 17:00 more at egosim and materialism, and particularly at ignorance and idiocy and liars 2013-11-11 17:05 DocScrutinizer05: about 2/3 of the residents seem to be fine with the way things are. or didn't merkel land a great victory recently ? 2013-11-11 17:05 (capitalism) I don't see any link and corellation. I think comunism as well has a record to abuse technology and not asking if it sipleases *anybody* anywhere. See e.g. Chernobyl 2013-11-11 17:06 wpwrak: you missed how democracy works 2013-11-11 17:07 DocScrutinizer05: democracy is what you call a system where the people have no power whatsoever and the government can therefore let them do whatever they please 2013-11-11 17:07 (communism) iirc ussr lost about 2k radioisotopic thermoelectric generators in lighthouses along the shore 2013-11-11 17:07 that is two thousand. lost as in there is no written record of their location 2013-11-11 17:07 you can choose if your drinking water from the tap shall have a) nitrides or rather b) dioxine or maybe c) gasoline 2013-11-11 17:08 that's what we call "democratic elections" 2013-11-11 17:08 (rtgs) 1 thousand it turns out. still a lot 2013-11-11 17:09 it's not correct to comclude to any general notion in population from any such election result 2013-11-11 17:09 whitequark: keeps you warm in the dark winter nights when the vodka has run out :) 2013-11-11 17:11 larsc: harder = longer testing period, especially if you do things like crossing species boundaries 2013-11-11 17:13 if it compiles, ship it! 2013-11-11 17:13 ;) 2013-11-11 17:13 larsc: and let's not pretend al this is an exact science. e.g., they happily deployed GMOs long before discovering that "junk DNA" wasn't just junk, or before noticing the effect of DNA methylation. 2013-11-11 17:13 yeah, pretty much :) 2013-11-11 17:14 not sure how you can deploy GMO without understanding of noncoding DNA, it's critical for the whole contraption to work 2013-11-11 17:14 since e.g. promotor is a noncoding fragment, or what you'd call 'junk' 2013-11-11 17:15 whitequark: hmm, do you know how they started making GMOs ? the earliest approaches consisted of setting up a field with the crop they wanted to modify, then placing a radiation source in the middle. leave it there for a while. then see what happens. if any of the plants looked better than before, that was the new product. 2013-11-11 17:15 you see, surgical precision all the way 2013-11-11 17:16 wpwrak: oh. 2013-11-11 17:16 but that's just the old method on fast forward 2013-11-11 17:17 rz2k has quit [] 2013-11-11 17:17 I wonder how much more than just polysomia (= bigger plants) you could get that way 2013-11-11 17:18 doesn't seem very effective 2013-11-11 17:18 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_genetic_engineering starts at 12000 BC 2013-11-11 17:18 in a way, yes. the question is whether you still get only one or at least a small number of mutations or whether you get a total mess what works more or less by accident and may do all sorts of weird things. 2013-11-11 17:18 which brings me back to the point of no exceeding the speed at which higher organisms can adapt to evolution of their environment 2013-11-11 17:20 whitequark: well, if you can afford to lose 1000 reactors, just imagine how many fields you can irradiate. hey, do it in siberia, so the nasty byproducts will die next winter. 2013-11-11 17:21 or fukushima 2013-11-11 17:21 wpwrak: it was lost during the fall of ussr, I think 2013-11-11 17:22 http://imgur.com/a/IgfNP 2013-11-11 17:22 somebody misfiled the paper work :) 2013-11-11 17:22 somebody left paperwork in a damp basement and it just rot in a month 2013-11-11 17:22 likely literally 2013-11-11 17:24 larsc: a tragic day for japan, but a great day for science ... 2013-11-11 17:32 hm, either somebody just pocket-dialed me or somebody wanted to send me a message but couldn't talk 2013-11-11 17:33 wake up, larsc! 2013-11-11 17:33 lot's of beep beep beep on the other end 2013-11-11 18:02 bzb has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 18:17 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 18:20 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 18:30 call back! ;-P 2013-11-11 18:30 do a lot of beep beep beep answering 2013-11-11 18:31 or... send a fax! 2013-11-11 18:31 * DocScrutinizer05 doubts the far end will get the prank 2013-11-11 18:57 bzb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-11-11 19:03 bzb has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 19:19 mth has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 19:20 bzb has quit [Quit: I hate to quit but my bladder's full. :-(] 2013-11-11 19:48 viric has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 19:52 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 19:59 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2013-11-11 20:01 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 20:02 dos1 has quit [Quit: Kabum!] 2013-11-11 20:04 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 21:20 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-11-11 21:37 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-11-11 21:57 apelete has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2013-11-11 22:07 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 22:09 lekernel has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-11-11 22:17 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-11-11 22:23 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-11 23:01 lekernel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-11-11 23:36 unclouded has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-11-11 23:38 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-11-11 23:48 viric has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-11 23:49 viric has joined #qi-hardware