2013-11-10 01:34 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-11-10 02:19 xiangfu_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 02:20 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-11-10 02:38 dos1 has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-11-10 03:16 bzb has quit [Quit: I hate to quit but my bladder's full. :-(] 2013-11-10 05:01 FDCX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-10 05:01 xiangfu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-11-10 05:05 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 05:07 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 05:08 FDCX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-11-10 05:25 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 06:11 Luke-Jr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-11-10 06:11 Luke-Jr has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 07:08 xiangfu has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-11-10 07:40 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 08:46 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 09:06 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 09:17 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 09:33 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 10:13 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 10:14 qi-bot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-11-10 10:42 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-11-10 10:43 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 10:44 qi-bot has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 11:01 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-11-10 11:02 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 11:08 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 11:34 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-11-10 11:36 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 11:44 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-11-10 11:49 jekhor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-11-10 11:55 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 12:13 xiangfu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-11-10 12:49 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 14:18 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 14:26 !seen cde 2013-11-10 14:26 whitequark, cde (~cde@fsf/member/cde) was last seen quitting #milkymist 6 days 18 hours 26 minutes ago (03.11. 19:59) stating "Quit: Lost terminal" after spending some time there. 2013-11-10 14:27 anyone knows his email? 2013-11-10 14:28 oh, he's online. 2013-11-10 14:40 FrankBlues has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 15:04 pcercuei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-11-10 15:05 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 15:59 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2013-11-10 16:01 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 16:02 FrankBlues has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-10 17:01 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 17:28 hum, wernermisc repository is still down 2013-11-10 17:30 or is it just me? 2013-11-10 17:30 git clone git://projects.qi-hardware.com/wernermisc.git 2013-11-10 17:35 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-11-10 17:49 works fine here 2013-11-10 17:54 viric: md5sum for filegive 0.6 doesn't match 2013-11-10 17:55 don't tell me you are silently substituting releases :) 2013-11-10 17:56 probably just the NSA 2013-11-10 17:58 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwOTk 2013-11-10 17:58 mth has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 18:01 well, lets hope that the apology is sincere and not just a publicity stunt 2013-11-10 18:12 oh, maybe my firewall ... 2013-11-10 18:20 kilae has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 2013-11-10 18:24 (ubuntu) that's roughly what i suspected. doesn't really make sense in any other way. they may be doing many questionable things, but i don't think they're stupid enough to try censorship. 2013-11-10 18:28 open source tea party 2013-11-10 18:28 :) 2013-11-10 18:29 shuttleworth, bah 2013-11-10 18:29 this dude shouldn't start apologizing 2013-11-10 18:30 since when he starts, he likely wouldn't reach an end 2013-11-10 18:30 well I'm quite happy finally someone does something substantial about the X11 shitware 2013-11-10 18:31 in my book canonical/ubuntu is only marginally less rogue than google/android 2013-11-10 18:31 sorry it was my firewall 2013-11-10 18:31 sorry to accuse qi-hw infrastructure :) 2013-11-10 18:32 hah ! :) 2013-11-10 18:33 X11 is akin to PCs booting in real mode. both have consequences: Intel laptops have poor battery life and the UI experience on Linux is a mess. 2013-11-10 18:33 I don't see any mess in my UX experience 2013-11-10 18:36 I however see a lot of mess and damage done to the unix universe at large, by dudes like Poettering and forks like android and ubuntu and projects like wayland/mir when they think they CBA to care about X11 backward compatibility 2013-11-10 18:40 the only UI mess I see is from braindead aproaches like Qt trying to avoid X11 IM and create their own vkbd and spellchecking and hw-kbd mapping and whatnot else 2013-11-10 18:41 which for me makes a quite insane cross-platform approach, that is like "we want this toolkit to work on multiple platforms, so let's make the platforms more similar so this can pan out" 2013-11-10 18:42 resulting in linux/unix apps in Qt acting much like windows apps 2013-11-10 18:42 which is not exactly what I'm cheerful about 2013-11-10 18:43 * DocScrutinizer05 sits back and waits who's going to win the race to define a whole new OS paradigm: systemd or Qt 2013-11-10 18:44 worst case they unite 2013-11-10 18:44 obsoleting kernel and linux at alrge 2013-11-10 18:45 large* 2013-11-10 18:45 in my book if it's not compatible to other unix flavors anymore, then it's not a proper linux 2013-11-10 18:46 what's wrong with that? unix is a terrible system 2013-11-10 18:50 lamest troll ever ;-) 2013-11-10 18:50 :) 2013-11-10 18:51 seriously though, unix isn't perfect 2013-11-10 19:18 systemd is pretty good imo. the startup process done right 2013-11-10 19:44 lekernel: idk at battery life, their latest soc is competitive with arms 2013-11-10 19:45 haswell i think 2013-11-10 20:01 kyak: auhm really? 2013-11-10 20:04 kyak: what md5sum do you expect? For what url? 2013-11-10 20:08 I see the aur 2013-11-10 20:11 no ide.a 2013-11-10 20:11 tarballs are genertated 'on the fly', but I didn't expect differences. 2013-11-10 20:15 ah understood. Right, it seems I'm changing hashes. :) (I told fossil to include two id files in the tarball, recently) 2013-11-10 20:19 http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2013-10-16/the-first-car-you-can-build-yourself-dot-in-an-hour 2013-11-10 20:31 ah sorry if someone already posted it: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-diy-cyborg 2013-11-10 20:31 will we see one day wpwrak like this? :) 2013-11-10 20:36 cool and creepy at the same time ;x 2013-11-10 20:36 did he put a arduino in there? 2013-11-10 20:37 damn, it's massive - and I guess that's the main thing that makes it creepy 2013-11-10 20:37 larsc: :D 2013-11-10 20:47 viric: hardly. a) i like my gadgets small. b) i'd rather go the opposite direction: upload my mind into a computer. that hardware much easier to maintain. 2013-11-10 20:47 :) 2013-11-10 20:48 c) look a all the nicely red inflamed tissue. i think he'll have so much more fun with his implant. 2013-11-10 20:49 but he got on the news. 2013-11-10 20:50 I wonder can he acutally do anything with that thing that you can do with just attached to the _outside_ of the skin? 2013-11-10 20:50 subcutaneous light ? :) 2013-11-10 20:54 subcutaneous light during one week days of battery power. 2013-11-10 20:56 one week is not bad, compared to my mobile phone ;) 2013-11-10 21:11 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-11-10 22:09 lekernel has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2013-11-10 22:23 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-11-10 22:43 rz2k has quit [] 2013-11-10 23:08 lekernel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-11-10 23:39 larsc: systemd is a bloated undebugable abomination, that even ahs less built in for --help 2013-11-10 23:39 not to mention intergartion of udev and d-bus 2013-11-10 23:44 "no poettering" should be a feature