2013-10-30 00:43 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-30 00:47 viric has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 00:53 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 01:00 viric has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-30 01:00 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 01:20 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-10-30 05:08 viric has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 05:09 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 05:11 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-30 05:22 eintopf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-10-30 05:22 eintopf has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 07:33 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 07:56 valhalla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-10-30 08:03 valhalla has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 08:51 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 09:21 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 09:26 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 09:58 leosaeba has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 10:14 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 10:59 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-30 11:00 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 11:37 mth_ is now known as mth 2013-10-30 11:38 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-30 11:45 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 11:45 dos1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-30 11:45 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 12:13 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-10-30 12:18 dandon has quit [Quit: .] 2013-10-30 12:40 lol, my android phone just BSOD'd 2013-10-30 12:40 the modem crashed 2013-10-30 12:41 so it displays a blue screen with white text with instructions of how to get a memory dump 2013-10-30 12:50 hehe 2013-10-30 12:54 whitequark: which brand/model? 2013-10-30 12:59 rjvizit has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 13:01 cde: lg e973 2013-10-30 13:02 it was fine on an unofficial cyanogenmod port 2013-10-30 13:02 android phone BSODed? how is that possible? 2013-10-30 13:02 then I for some reason decided I should upgrade it to the official port done by the same person 2013-10-30 13:02 nothing works since 2013-10-30 13:02 wtf 2013-10-30 13:02 kyak: well, it's not windows' bsod, but it is blue and signifies death 2013-10-30 13:03 ah, not *that* BSOD! :) 2013-10-30 13:03 well duh 2013-10-30 13:03 rjvizit has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-30 13:03 if it was winphone, then it'd be possible though. 2013-10-30 13:06 whitequark: can you reproduce the blue screen and take a picture of it? 2013-10-30 13:06 it is relevant to my interests 2013-10-30 13:08 cde: I don't think so but if it repeats I can do that 2013-10-30 13:08 which interests? 2013-10-30 13:09 blaming lg :) 2013-10-30 13:25 whitequark: professional 2013-10-30 13:34 cde: you work for lg and collect bsods of custom firmwares? :p 2013-10-30 13:35 unfortunately, I'm not allowed to say 2013-10-30 13:36 I can take a memory dump if you want 2013-10-30 13:36 pretty sure the required sw is leaked somewhere 2013-10-30 13:36 yea it is 2013-10-30 13:37 the question is whether it is allowed to use memory dumps of custom firmware taken by leaked tools :) 2013-10-30 13:37 whitequark: awesome! which tool? 2013-10-30 13:37 cde: qpst 2013-10-30 13:38 ah cool. I have it too, but never tried on an actual phone 2013-10-30 13:38 you need to switch the phone to modem mode right? 2013-10-30 13:38 download mode, basically a bootloader 2013-10-30 13:38 bsod handler can do that on its own 2013-10-30 13:39 awesome, I had no idea it could do that 2013-10-30 13:39 (also, whoever wrote it accidentally swapped the only two keys used in its UI. grr) 2013-10-30 13:39 well, it writes that in plain text 2013-10-30 13:39 lekernel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-10-30 13:41 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 14:15 pcercuei_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 14:16 pcercuei has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-10-30 14:36 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 14:43 rvthorn has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 14:48 rvthorn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-10-30 15:01 nickoe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-30 15:20 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 16:18 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 16:25 xiangfu_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 16:28 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 16:41 nickoe_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 16:43 nickoe_ is now known as nickoe 2013-10-30 16:43 nickoe is now known as nickoedd 2013-10-30 16:43 nickoedd is now known as nickoe 2013-10-30 17:13 rzk has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 17:14 rzk has quit [Client Quit] 2013-10-30 17:16 rz2k has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 17:38 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-10-30 18:52 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 18:59 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 19:14 arhuaco has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 19:38 lekernel has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-30 19:51 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 20:40 leosaeba has quit [Quit: leosaeba] 2013-10-30 21:30 larsc mth: Hello there 2013-10-30 21:38 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2013-10-30 21:40 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 21:49 still trying to understand why the udc does not seems to be detected as it should (bulk endpoint not being detected -> http://paste.debian.net/60583/, and musb->endpoints member being left initialised to O in struct musb -> http://paste.debian.net/62655/) 2013-10-30 21:52 I read something interesting in the jz4740_udc code: 2013-10-30 21:52 /* Let host detect UDC: 2013-10-30 21:52 * transistor on and pull the USBDP pin HIGH. 2013-10-30 21:52 * Software must write a 1 to the PWR:USB_POWER_SOFTCONN bit to turn this 2013-10-30 21:52 dos11 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 21:52 */ 2013-10-30 21:52 usb_setb(dev, JZ_REG_UDC_POWER, USB_POWER_SOFTCONN); 2013-10-30 21:52 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-10-30 21:53 looking in programming manual (21.4.3.2 2013-10-30 21:55 s/looking in programming manual (21.4.3.2/looking in programming manual (21.4.3.2 POWER), bit 6 used in jz4740_udc.c is advertised as "Version specific" but undocumented/ 2013-10-30 21:59 but section 21.5.1 titled "Soft connect/disconnect" explains usage of what is called "PWR:USB_POWER_SOFTCONN bit" in the jz4740_udc code 2013-10-30 22:00 larsc mth: is that SOFTCONN mechanism standard to musb controllers or do you think I should implement it specifically in the jz4740_musb driver too ? 2013-10-30 22:01 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 22:11 dos11 is now known as dos1 2013-10-30 22:25 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 22:40 apelete: is there anything in the generic code that can write that particular bit? 2013-10-30 22:40 unsigned soft_con:1 __deprecated; /* soft connect required */ 2013-10-30 22:40 this exists in include/linux/usb/musb.h 2013-10-30 22:40 you can use "git blame" to look up the commit in which it was deprecated 2013-10-30 22:41 usually the commit comment then says what it was replaced by 2013-10-30 22:49 we started funraiser: neo900.org 2013-10-30 22:49 mth: found the commit: 2013-10-30 22:49 commit c58bfa6b97731590e42cba6bd13829c4e480992f 2013-10-30 22:49 $ git show c58bfa 2013-10-30 22:49 fund, but he! 2013-10-30 22:49 Author: Felipe Balbi 2013-10-30 22:49 Date: Thu Jan 21 15:33:55 2010 +0200 2013-10-30 22:49 2013-10-30 22:49 USB: musb: deprecate what we don't use 2013-10-30 22:49 2013-10-30 22:49 after 2.6.34, those fields will be removed from 2013-10-30 22:49 struct musb_hdrc_platform_data, it's expected 2013-10-30 22:50 that other architectures are fixed by then. 2013-10-30 22:50 2013-10-30 22:50 Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi 2013-10-30 22:50 Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman 2013-10-30 22:50 felipe balbi, UGH 2013-10-30 22:51 KH is ok, but this balbi guy seems a good indicator for stuff that's giving you headache 2013-10-30 22:53 DocScrutinizer05: ooooh a keyboard 2013-10-30 22:53 well, that commit message does not help finding out what should be used instead of those deprecated fields 2013-10-30 22:53 I haven't seen a phone with a keyboard for years 2013-10-30 22:53 oh and LTE. hm. 2013-10-30 22:53 * whitequark looks at his wallet 2013-10-30 22:54 DocScrutinizer05: is there a full list of specs? 2013-10-30 22:54 DocScrutinizer05: I can't judge his code quality, but he did respond quickly and friendly when I mailed him once 2013-10-30 22:55 whitequark: click on "specs" - though "subject to change" 2013-10-30 22:55 resistive display, huh 2013-10-30 22:56 apelete: that sounds like the generic code ignores it, so then the glue would have to take care of it 2013-10-30 23:00 mth: unsigned softconnect:1; 2013-10-30 23:00 that's in struct musb in musb_core.h 2013-10-30 23:00 so it seems it has been moved there 2013-10-30 23:01 ah, it still exists but it is no longer platform data? 2013-10-30 23:02 well, found it in musb_core.h, I don't know how it is supposed to be used 2013-10-30 23:03 mth: do you think the glue should write that field to use soft connect capability ? 2013-10-30 23:03 only if the generic code doesn't 2013-10-30 23:03 generic code does not seem to handle it, but I may be wrong here 2013-10-30 23:04 look for writes to that particular register offset 2013-10-30 23:04 the generic code might use different names for it, but the address will be unique 2013-10-30 23:06 viric has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-10-30 23:08 whitequark: http://neo900.org/faq#touch 2013-10-30 23:09 that's... wishful thinking 2013-10-30 23:09 for one, it's not multitouch. completely different pattern of interaction 2013-10-30 23:10 though it's not going to matter, considering all FOSS shells are stuck in 90's anyway 2013-10-30 23:10 well, we don't have multitouch in any of it's ancestors either 2013-10-30 23:10 sure. I mainly wanted to know whether it's still in the "it's way inferior but yeah FOSS" category 2013-10-30 23:11 got better, but still there. 2013-10-30 23:11 * whitequark shrugs 2013-10-30 23:11 personally, I'm somewhat torn between "a foss phone" and "fuck phones completely" 2013-10-30 23:12 both at least have the "f" in common :) 2013-10-30 23:12 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 23:12 a third option would be "feature phone" 2013-10-30 23:12 wpwrak: well, I use my current android phone, in order of importance: GPS nav, SIP, web, SMS 2013-10-30 23:13 so, uh, feature phone ~ no phone at all 2013-10-30 23:13 it's great in emergencies, but not as something I'd use daily. 2013-10-30 23:14 ah, my car nav can't make phone calls :) 2013-10-30 23:14 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-30 23:14 and my feature phone does SMS and voice. that's all. 2013-10-30 23:15 SIP & web are good enough on the notebook 2013-10-30 23:15 GPS's kinda inconvenient 2013-10-30 23:17 mth: you're right, it is handled in generic code indeed: 2013-10-30 23:17 $ find drivers/usb/musb/ -type f -exec grep -Hin "MUSB_POWER_SOFTCONN" {} \; 2013-10-30 23:17 drivers/usb/musb/blackfin.c:270: val |= MUSB_POWER_SOFTCONN; 2013-10-30 23:17 drivers/usb/musb/blackfin.c:265: val &= ~MUSB_POWER_SOFTCONN; 2013-10-30 23:17 drivers/usb/musb/musb_gadget.c:1616: power |= MUSB_POWER_SOFTCONN; 2013-10-30 23:17 drivers/usb/musb/musb_gadget.c:1618: power &= ~MUSB_POWER_SOFTCONN; 2013-10-30 23:17 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-10-30 23:17 drivers/usb/musb/musb_regs.h:46:#define MUSB_POWER_SOFTCONN 0x40 2013-10-30 23:18 looks like set_vbus() call in musb glue will need fixing 2013-10-30 23:25 pcercuei_ has quit [Quit: dodo] 2013-10-30 23:36 DocScrutinizer05: just read http://neo900.org/faq, I was thinking the device would ship with a phone OS (no matter how limited), ie. could make phone calls and/or sms out of the box 2013-10-30 23:36 we will ship a rudimentary dialer 2013-10-30 23:37 actually I guess by the time we're shipping SHR should be ported and ready to use 2013-10-30 23:38 after all it's working on GTA04 already afaik 2013-10-30 23:41 DocScrutinizer05: great. so the device would be more of a foss dev phone than an actual ready to use phone, like the GTA04, right ? 2013-10-30 23:41 right 2013-10-30 23:42 GolDeliCo doesn't ship a ral OS - that's up to commuity 2013-10-30 23:42 we're busy porting fremantle 2013-10-30 23:42 see 2013-10-30 23:42 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 2013-10-30 23:42 link on post#1 2013-10-30 23:43 lekernel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-10-30 23:45 DocScrutinizer05: that's what I was going to ask: "who's working on it and how far has it gone ?" :) 2013-10-30 23:45 it's great to see an attempt at building a phone with a keyboard, really 2013-10-30 23:45 see FPTF thread, though the devels are not really updating that one frequently 2013-10-30 23:46 well, hw kbd been one of the must-have's 2013-10-30 23:46 otherwise I wouldn't have left my bed for this 2013-10-30 23:50 I'm still using a Nokia N9, but wish a phone with a keyboard will be available by the time the N9 isn't working anymore 2013-10-30 23:57 DocScrutinizer05: going to keep an eye on this, let's see if I can give a hand when that little musb project of mine is ready :) 2013-10-30 23:57 * apelete looks at his wallet too... 2013-10-30 23:57 :-) 2013-10-30 23:57 much appreciated 2013-10-30 23:58 frankly it's tempting 2013-10-30 23:58 but I just don't want to have yet another phone that doesn't work, for the cost of iphone this time