2013-10-12 00:04 pcercuei has quit [Quit: dodo] 2013-10-12 00:22 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 01:40 dos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-10-12 02:26 Guest31740 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-10-12 03:14 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 03:22 rz2k has quit [] 2013-10-12 04:13 whitequark: adblock tends to bring maemo browser to a grinding halt, due to extremely bloated sqlite db with URL to block 2013-10-12 04:14 it frequently takes longer to search the db than it takes to actually download the stuff that would get blocked 2013-10-12 04:37 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-12 04:53 woakas has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-10-12 06:04 DocScrutinizer05: oh right, firefox adblock... I've been using chrome adblock for a while 2013-10-12 06:04 the chrome one uses a giant CSS file instead. webkit processes it rather efficiently. 2013-10-12 06:05 mhm 2013-10-12 06:05 a few hours ago I ran into awesome docs about that notorious 900 modem module 2013-10-12 06:06 sim900d? 2013-10-12 06:06 wondering if they are still available 2013-10-12 06:06 yep 2013-10-12 06:06 oh interesting 2013-10-12 06:06 well, nothing you don't know 2013-10-12 06:06 just some rather aged files on my PC 2013-10-12 06:07 particularly about AT commands - extended 2013-10-12 06:09 I see 2013-10-12 06:10 was just pondering whether to try and buy some as long as they maybe still available 2013-10-12 06:10 and 2 or 3 Nokia6210 2013-10-12 06:10 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIM900-SIMCOM-Quad-band-GSM-GPRS-Module-/180794206513 2013-10-12 06:10 plenty 2013-10-12 06:10 \o/ 2013-10-12 06:11 it's not the 900D though, let me find that one 2013-10-12 06:11 http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SMT-type-GSM-GPRS-module-SIM900D/605000_478119548.html 2013-10-12 06:11 looks exactly like the one I have 2013-10-12 06:11 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 06:15 by the way, it seems that russian vendors which have that module in stock offer various firmwares for it and a flasher app 2013-10-12 06:15 http://electronix.ru/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t92287.html 2013-10-12 06:18 that's exactly what I'm interested in 2013-10-12 06:21 btw what's the relation/difference between alibaba.com and aliexpress.com? is it same company? 2013-10-12 06:21 I think yes 2013-10-12 06:21 one sells in bulk, the other in small quantities 2013-10-12 06:23 http://www.edaboard.com/thread182804.html <- also relevant 2013-10-12 06:26 oooooo 2013-10-12 06:27 ftp://ftp.macrogroup.ru/Support/SimCom/Firmware/Sim900/ 2013-10-12 06:27 this is a trove of stuff. 2013-10-12 06:27 flash loader and various firmwares. 2013-10-12 06:33 thanks a lot :-D 2013-10-12 06:33 btw I've mirrored their entire stash on simcom 2013-10-12 06:33 there's an embedded AT devkit 2013-10-12 06:34 which does exactly what you would think 2013-10-12 06:34 ie allows you to compile in arbitrary code. 2013-10-12 06:34 also, docs, some of which contain "NDA" in the filename :D 2013-10-12 06:35 also, some kind of tracing utility 2013-10-12 06:35 cool 2013-10-12 06:36 alas the modem is 3mm high 2013-10-12 06:36 no fit on Neo900 2013-10-12 06:36 they have like several dozens of these modems 2013-10-12 06:37 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-10-12 06:39 I'm still thinking about my BTS-harvester which doesn't rely on C1/C2 based normal reselection by actively tries to log in to each BTS in vicinity automatically 2013-10-12 06:41 I've looked through embedded AT docs 2013-10-12 06:41 it seems that you can only communicate with the modem with AT commands even when you're running on the module itself 2013-10-12 06:41 I guess my other project to do timesharing on the radio hardware will be way harder to implement, since I'd need to completely swap all registers and RAM 2013-10-12 06:42 but I definitely should patent this idea 2013-10-12 06:42 RVCT is mandatory in order to build embedded applications. Borland C++ Builder 5.0 or 2013-10-12 06:42 Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 is needed for debugging. 2013-10-12 06:42 Borland C++ Builder 5.0 o_o 2013-10-12 06:43 eeew 2013-10-12 06:43 how do you even do that at all?! 2013-10-12 06:43 it's... x86 and windows-only 2013-10-12 06:43 yeah 2013-10-12 06:45 * DocScrutinizer05 wonders how to introduce some skew in sleep-schedule for GSM RX 2013-10-12 06:46 like, when BTS tells modem to awake on second 1,3,5... I want make it skip a second so it gets scheduled to second 2,4,6... instead 2013-10-12 06:47 rationaly: sometimes two BTS could have colliding (aka "in sync") schedule for your modem, when you do timesharing the RX 2013-10-12 06:47 rationale even 2013-10-12 06:48 dunno, maybe you could poke the baseband itself? 2013-10-12 06:49 it comes with a symbol table and memory map, you just need to disable memory protection ;) 2013-10-12 06:49 can't be that hard to find a buffer overflow or several dozens there 2013-10-12 06:50 I guess a buffer overflow is "too weak" or "too small a door" to do such *massive* hack with the OS on radio 2013-10-12 06:50 >#define TRA_APPL_L1A_SERVING_CELL_PWR_INFO 0xDA 2013-10-12 06:51 well, you only need to disable memory protection. after that you just need to find the relevant timer and hijack it 2013-10-12 06:51 the idea is to swap the complete OS out of the radio hw and swap in a different state of same OS 2013-10-12 06:52 aah, for the timer, yeah that's probably easy 2013-10-12 06:52 I'm not sure if you have enough spare RAM to swap the OS state there 2013-10-12 06:53 I even doubt the BTS has a certain timeframe for the wakeups of the modem - it rather will send the "INVITE" continuously for 5s and hope for the modem to eventually listen and recognize that message 2013-10-12 06:53 that's of course a problem 2013-10-12 06:53 (RAM size) 2013-10-12 06:55 the whole project is rather targeted at inustry level, so manufacturers could build dual-online (actually 1.99-online) dual-SIM with only one radio 2013-10-12 06:56 the whole OS-swapping thing sounds reeeeallly bug-prone to me 2013-10-12 06:56 I can totally see how it works as an interesting experiment, but not in prod 2013-10-12 06:56 obviously during a call the other SIM is "temporarily not available" since RX and TX are operating 100% of time in the channel of the current established call 2013-10-12 06:57 nah, you're doing basically exactly same on your PC all the time 2013-10-12 06:57 no I mean, it's fine if you have the sources for baseband and everything 2013-10-12 06:58 that would basically be virtualization 2013-10-12 06:58 like xen does it 2013-10-12 06:58 during standby, the hardware sleeps 95% of time, and every 1 or 2 seconds it listens if BTS is sending a INVITE 2013-10-12 06:58 but hijacking existing sw which you only have as undocumented binaries... huh 2013-10-12 06:58 during that 95% sleep time, the hardware could do someting else, e.g. listening to another BTS for another INVITE to a second SIM 2013-10-12 06:59 hijacking an existing hw without docs and sourcecode: not feasible 2013-10-12 07:00 so how do you wanna do that? I don't follow :) 2013-10-12 07:00 I#m just planning 2013-10-12 07:01 for a patent ;-D 2013-10-12 07:01 oooh I see 2013-10-12 07:01 neat :) 2013-10-12 07:01 maybe one day test it on SDR 2013-10-12 07:01 PoC 2013-10-12 07:02 or rework a chipset by brutally piggybacking RAM to duplicate it, and switch chipselect with a tiny hack in existing software 2013-10-12 07:02 even that won't fly, but sth like that might be feasible 2013-10-12 07:02 I just wonder why no chip manuf has offered it yet 2013-10-12 07:03 dual-SIM one-dot-nine-online 2013-10-12 07:03 you obviously won't get "call waiting" signal during a call 2013-10-12 07:04 but that radio can scan (SIC) more than one BTS and carrier concurrently 2013-10-12 07:04 and lsiten to mire than one IMSI for an INVITE 2013-10-12 07:05 and listen to more than one IMSI for an INVITE 2013-10-12 08:57 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 10:06 mth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-12 12:06 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-12 12:10 dos1 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 12:28 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 12:57 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-12 13:00 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 13:18 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-10-12 13:23 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 13:28 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-10-12 13:38 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 14:09 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-12 14:11 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 14:19 rz2k has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 14:38 kilae has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 2013-10-12 14:41 kristianpaul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-10-12 14:54 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-10-12 14:59 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:04 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-10-12 15:10 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-10-12 15:13 Codora has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:18 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:22 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:27 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-10-12 15:30 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:37 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-10-12 15:44 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:47 qwebirc90446 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 15:47 qwebirc90446 is now known as rjeffries 2013-10-12 15:49 Not saying this password etc storing service is A Good Thing. But it's mildly interesting. https://www.clipperz.com/ 2013-10-12 15:52 the problem is that the code can be modified at any time 2013-10-12 16:04 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2013-10-12 16:06 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 16:08 rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2013-10-12 16:21 online password manager. Funny. hehe 2013-10-12 16:27 pcercuei has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 16:36 porchaso0 is now known as porchas0 2013-10-12 16:36 porchas0 is now known as porchaso0 2013-10-12 17:02 that gives me an idea, we should create a could password storage service 2013-10-12 17:03 cloud? 2013-10-12 17:03 yes cloud 2013-10-12 17:07 we cloud create a could password storage service! cloudn't we? 2013-10-12 17:07 I guess it's what clipperz provides 2013-10-12 17:33 cmbrgo has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 19:35 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-10-12 20:29 rz2k has quit [] 2013-10-12 20:36 kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 20:53 kristianpaul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2013-10-12 20:53 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2013-10-12 20:53 kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 20:53 kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 20:54 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 20:59 FDCX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-10-12 21:46 porchaso0 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-10-12 22:21 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 22:46 porchao has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 23:25 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 23:49 MAD_DOG has joined #qi-hardware 2013-10-12 23:49 INVITATION HARDWARE < mp3 player > http://www.tatuuu.com.br 2013-10-12 23:49 MAD_DOG has quit [Client Quit]