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2013-10-04 04:49 <hellekin> is Intel making free hardware SoC now?  http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/do-it-yourself/galileo-maker-quark-board.html
2013-10-04 04:49 <roh> yes and no
2013-10-04 04:49 <roh> the galileo seems cc-by-sa
2013-10-04 04:49 <roh> but thats just like a 'reference design' for their quark soc
2013-10-04 04:50 <roh> so the soc itself isnt free, but the schems/source is.
2013-10-04 04:51 <roh> so far i am quite impressed. lets wait for pricing and availability ;)
2013-10-04 04:51 <roh> especially the formfactor and the mini-pci-e slot seems nice. i would have some ideas for that
2013-10-04 04:53 <hellekin> eh, that's pretty recent. I like the CERN OHL list :) https://communities.intel.com/community/makers/manuals--guides--etc./intel%28r%29-galileo-development-board-documents
2013-10-04 04:53 <hellekin> so the SoC design is free, but the chip isn't
2013-10-04 04:54 <roh> well.. its still intel. so you get chips you can buy, specs, some documentation and foss drivers.
2013-10-04 04:54 <roh> they will for sure not give out their chipmaking masks and asic designs
2013-10-04 04:55 <hellekin> so it's mostly to steal ARM's business, no much news for hardware freedom. Same game, different players.
2013-10-04 04:56 <roh> jup
2013-10-04 04:57 <roh> but as long nobody gives me funding to have and run chipmaking fabs or rent some, i think i am happy with socs with proper docs
2013-10-04 04:59 <hellekin> all you need is $1 from each person on Earth roh. Don't desperate ;o)
2013-10-04 04:59 <roh> too bad only a small part of those even have access to clean water and eletric power they can afford
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2013-10-04 05:01 <hellekin> I've heard there's a plan to make everyone equal, by burning all resources, polluting all drinkable water, and killing everyone.
2013-10-04 05:02 <roh> hehe
2013-10-04 05:13 <hellekin> rms mentioned i.MX6 as a potentially acceptable platform for running 100% free software, saying that onyle the video decoder remains to be reverse engineered.
2013-10-04 05:13 <hellekin> s/onyle/only/
2013-10-04 05:13 <qi-bot> hellekin meant: "rms mentioned i.MX6 as a potentially acceptable platform for running 100% free software, saying that only the video decoder remains to be reverse engineered."
2013-10-04 05:15 <hellekin> it uses an ARM Cortex9 dual or quad proc
2013-10-04 05:16 <hellekin> uff. These gizmos get tinier every time I have a look. Next time I get a bug to enter my nose and lobotomize me to connect to Facebook and Google Maps.
2013-10-04 05:17 <hellekin> well, time to sleep. TTYL
2013-10-04 05:17 <roh> hellekin: i dont usually take rms that seriously when deciding which hw to use ;9
2013-10-04 05:17 <roh> gn8
2013-10-04 05:17 <roh> wandboard would be imx6
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2013-10-04 08:32 <sanderr> Pfff, finally time to blow off some steam.
2013-10-04 08:33 <sanderr> (free from work today)
2013-10-04 08:33 <sanderr> And time to catch up on reading about anelok. :)
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2013-10-04 09:37 <wpwrak> very good :)
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2013-10-04 16:54 <wpwrak> fedex delivered the remaining toys. now anelok is unstoppable :)
2013-10-04 17:02 <ysionneau> hehe
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2013-10-04 18:40 <kristianpaul> wee :)
2013-10-04 18:42 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: btw having the ben wpan modules is mandatory to get anelok to work? or anelok will have its own 208.15.14  link?
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2013-10-04 19:30 <whitequark> http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor-stinks-nsa-presentation-document
2013-10-04 19:30 <whitequark> so... one hand of USG created tor, the other one tries to break it?
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2013-10-04 19:46 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: use of 802.15.4 is optional. if you want to use it for HID and such, you'll need an atusb (or a yet to be designed atusb successor)
2013-10-04 19:53 <viric> "Terrorist with tor client installed"
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2013-10-04 20:30 <kristianpaul> viric: ;)
2013-10-04 20:30 <kristianpaul> remenber that they protect us
2013-10-04 20:30 <viric> us meaning U.S.?
2013-10-04 20:31 <viric> they protect very few people. The rest are at risk :)
2013-10-04 20:31 <kristianpaul> nop U.S
2013-10-04 20:31 <kristianpaul> indeed (few)
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2013-10-04 21:32 <wpwrak> more news from the USSR ? (United States Secure Republic)
2013-10-04 21:46 * eintopf took his nose into this channel and heard something about ieee802.15.4
2013-10-04 21:47 <viric> heard? in an irc channel? with the nose??
2013-10-04 21:47 <eintopf> yea
2013-10-04 21:48 <viric> quite impressive.
2013-10-04 21:52 <wpwrak> eintopf: yeah, i'll use 802.15.4 for communication between a password safe and a PC (e.g., emulating a keyboard)
2013-10-04 21:53 <wpwrak> eintopf: the PC-side hardware will be or course atusb :) (or an updated variant of it)
2013-10-04 21:55 <eintopf> ah, ok
2013-10-04 21:57 <eintopf> wpwrak: I try to work on the mac/6lowpan rework rfc...
2013-10-04 21:57 <eintopf> but I don't get it running
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2013-10-04 21:57 <eintopf> and I think I don't have/get time for this to make a whole rework of this
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2013-10-04 21:58 <eintopf> :(
2013-10-04 21:59 <wpwrak> well, sometimes it helps to take a break, have a few beers, than have a look at it again a couple of days later
2013-10-04 21:59 <wpwrak> s/than/then/
2013-10-04 21:59 <qi-bot> wpwrak meant: "well, sometimes it helps to take a break, have a few beers, then have a look at it again a couple of days later"
2013-10-04 22:02 <eintopf> I don't drink beer
2013-10-04 22:03 <eintopf> got some issue in a do { ... } while (read_seqretry(....))
2013-10-04 22:03 <eintopf> first I need to understand what this means :)
2013-10-04 22:05 <wpwrak> well, wine actually works better for this than beer :)
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