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2013-09-25 14:40 <viric> did I hear that debian is going to stop doing mips(el) builds?
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2013-09-25 15:05 <larsc> if no one steps up to fix MIPS problems
2013-09-25 15:05 <larsc> viric: there is your chance ;)
2013-09-25 15:06 <viric> me? debian? no, thank you :)
2013-09-25 15:07 <viric> where are the problems, though? In what software?
2013-09-25 15:07 <larsc> Just in general
2013-09-25 15:08 <viric> I guess it's more the lack of users/developers than the problems. All have problems.
2013-09-25 15:08 <kristianpaul> mess? or porting issues?
2013-09-25 15:08 <larsc> The Debian process requires someone who is going to take care of issue if they arise
2013-09-25 15:08 <larsc> E.g. if a package doesn't compile anymore on MIPS after a compiler upgrade
2013-09-25 15:09 <larsc> Cause the whole compiler upgrade is going to be blocked until the issue is resolved
2013-09-25 15:09 <viric> ok, lack of responsible at the debian organisation
2013-09-25 15:10 <viric> no surprise.
2013-09-25 15:10 <viric> I can only say that, on the FOSS world, I'm very positively impressed how they managed to gather responsible people
2013-09-25 15:11 <kristianpaul> lack of use i bet, how many serious services stand on mips?
2013-09-25 15:11 <kristianpaul> i meant for debian infraestructure
2013-09-25 15:11 <larsc> The internet
2013-09-25 15:11 <larsc> ;)
2013-09-25 15:11 <larsc> but probably not running debian
2013-09-25 15:11 <viric> :)
2013-09-25 15:12 <viric> yes, there are tons of routers/switches
2013-09-25 15:12 <viric> mips.
2013-09-25 15:12 <kristianpaul> larsc: indeed /not running/
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2013-09-25 15:13 <larsc> well anyway, time to get some food and then be a virtual booth representative
2013-09-25 15:16 <kristianpaul> new job?
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2013-09-25 15:19 <viric> larsc: on second life?
2013-09-25 15:27 <larsc> kind of http://engage.vevent.com/index.jsp?eid=2781&seid=15
2013-09-25 15:32 <viric> very good
2013-09-25 15:34 <larsc> sign up now and win an iPad mini ;)
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2013-09-25 15:47 <viric> :)
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2013-09-25 21:20 <GNUtoo-x60> hi,
2013-09-25 21:21 <GNUtoo-x60> I'm looking again at the milkymist status after all theses years,
2013-09-25 21:21 <GNUtoo-x60> I saw there is a new version of the hadware in early bringup,
2013-09-25 21:22 <GNUtoo-x60> I wondered the current status of the "software" on the milkymist, and what was the differences between the milkymist and the mixxeo
2013-09-25 21:22 <GNUtoo-x60> I've downloaded some sources,
2013-09-25 21:22 <GNUtoo-x60> I've looked at the milkymist-ng repository,
2013-09-25 21:23 <GNUtoo-x60> the README says that migen is a dependecy
2013-09-25 21:23 <GNUtoo-x60> I heard that migen generate code like VHDL(maybe not VHDL but some code in VHDL or similar languages),
2013-09-25 21:23 <GNUtoo-x60> I've looked a bit more in milkymist-ng repository,
2013-09-25 21:24 <GNUtoo-x60> it's strnage: I can't find any dependency on fpga vendor tools,
2013-09-25 21:24 <GNUtoo-x60> is that problem fixed?
2013-09-25 21:24 <GNUtoo-x60> by vendor tools I meant non-free syntetizer
2013-09-25 21:25 <GNUtoo-x60> I've also looked at arch/*l*
2013-09-25 21:25 <GNUtoo-x60> in the mainline linux kenrel
2013-09-25 21:25 <GNUtoo-x60> I found no lattice32 or directory that looked like that
2013-09-25 21:25 <GNUtoo-x60> I'll look in the kenrel sources from the milkymist project for that...
2013-09-25 21:27 <GNUtoo-x60> btw the http://sharism.cc/ website seem down
2013-09-25 21:30 <GNUtoo-x60> ha, maybe it's the wrong channel,
2013-09-25 21:30 <GNUtoo-x60> they say to use #milkymist in the README of the git
2013-09-25 21:50 <DocScrutinizer05> latest madness: Neo900 goes  FreeCalypso modem option ;-P
2013-09-25 21:51 <DocScrutinizer05> for RMS and his disciples
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2013-09-25 21:53 <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1376708#post1376708
2013-09-25 21:56 <DocScrutinizer05> roh: N900 refurbished: ~100 EUR
2013-09-25 21:57 <DocScrutinizer05> so we hardly can get any worse than those 100 bucks, for all the missing case_et_al parts to build a complete phone around a GTA04-NeoN
2013-09-25 22:07 <roh> nice
2013-09-25 22:12 <DocScrutinizer05> of course that assumes we can reuse parts like domesheet that are marked "Do NOT reuse! Dispose and get new part", in N900 service manual L1_2
2013-09-25 22:20 <DocScrutinizer05> and I got a mail today that offers substantial 4 digit donations for accomplishing the protoboard development and building. Let's see if deeds will be louder than words here, in the positive sense
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2013-09-25 22:21 <wpwrak> that calypso has more lives than a bag of cats ;-)
2013-09-25 22:21 <DocScrutinizer05> indeed
2013-09-25 22:21 <DocScrutinizer05> not that I like this fact
2013-09-25 22:21 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)
2013-09-25 22:22 <DocScrutinizer05> I'd rather forget it ever existed
2013-09-25 22:23 <DocScrutinizer05> but that guy came up with the idea to build a FC-modem and place it onto GTA04-NeoN, to get a *really* free phone
2013-09-25 22:24 <DocScrutinizer05> I doubt I will ever consider actually building the modems, for sure not the prototypes. But if they exist eventually, we should make sure they will fit in Neo900
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