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2013-08-14 02:32 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Query animation status instead of storing it (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/90afa09
2013-08-14 02:32 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Make ButtonBox deal with IconButtons instead of generic Buttons (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/06ee35b
2013-08-14 02:32 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Make Link and IconButton inherit from Button privately (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/6378fcf
2013-08-14 02:32 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed Button class (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/742444c
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2013-08-14 13:39 <mth> projects.qi-hardware.com is not responding, does anyone know what is going on?
2013-08-14 13:59 <kyak> i'm wondering how's paying for qi-hardware.com anyway? and isn't it going to disappear silently one day, just like sharism?
2013-08-14 13:59 <kyak> /how/who
2013-08-14 13:59 <ysionneau> let's hope not
2013-08-14 14:01 <kyak> i think maybe ill clone openwrt packages to github just to be safe :) theres too much work
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2013-08-14 14:21 <ysionneau> if anyone has a local clone then it's safe :)
2013-08-14 14:21 <ysionneau> that's the beauty of git
2013-08-14 14:21 <ysionneau> but indeed keeping a public repo is nice
2013-08-14 14:22 <wpwrak> kyak: nobody knows. wolfgang pays for the servers and maintains them. so silent disappearance is a possibility
2013-08-14 14:30 <viric> this is internet. everything disappears.
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2013-08-14 14:48 <kyak> ysionneau: im almost sure that if openwrt-packages repo disappears right now, there is not a single person with an up to date clone :)
2013-08-14 14:49 <kyak> viric: in fact, this is internet and everything is kept forever :)
2013-08-14 14:50 <kyak> pieces of qi-hardware will float in google cache long after it will be gone
2013-08-14 14:51 <viric> yes, enough pieces to let you know "it was there, but it is lost"
2013-08-14 14:52 <kyak> wpwrak: that's a pity.. especially the lack of information (considering that it was about freedom when it all started)
2013-08-14 14:52 <kyak> lack of information is very opposite to freedom
2013-08-14 14:52 <ysionneau> well indeed lack of information is really sad
2013-08-14 14:53 <ysionneau> anyone is free to change its interest and to do whatever he wants
2013-08-14 14:53 <ysionneau> but to inform would be nice so that the situation is clear and people could organize / reorganize
2013-08-14 14:53 <kyak> thats true
2013-08-14 14:54 <viric> trust in people should be the last resort. :)
2013-08-14 14:55 <wpwrak> yeah, just "fading away" seems a bit uncharacteristic. don't know what happened. maybe too much exposure to chinese culture ? ("saying something would mean admitting failure. let's just not talk about it anymore.")
2013-08-14 14:56 <viric> that algorithm between quotes reminds me of indians. :)
2013-08-14 14:56 <viric> dot indians, not feather indians.
2013-08-14 14:57 <kyak> that might sound strange, but does anybody know if wolfgang is even fine? i mean, if i disappear one day, you wouldnt even know that im in fact very dead
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed the word "Color" from the labels in the skin settings menu (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/dfa5413
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Remove "don't leave" feature (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/9c497e7
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Reduce use of HAVE_LIBOPK inside LinkApp class as well (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/ea85b10
2013-08-14 14:58 <viric> wolfspraul: ^
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Don't pass screen coordinates to drawScrollBar() (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/b18e3fa
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Make GMenu2X::initBG() private (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/69b2b79
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Made Surface argument to drawTopBar/drawBottomBar() mandatory (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/1ffae36
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed PNG font (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/e4dd070
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Crop 320x240 versions of topbar.png and bottombar.png to width 320 (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/13f91f9
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Added "bottomBarHeight" item to skin (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/19fc3cb
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Added method GMenu2X::getContentArea() (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/91dd708
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Fixed text area coordinates in TextDialog (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/666be4d
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed checks for manuals and screenshots in JPEG and BMP format (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/8472acc
2013-08-14 14:58 <kyak> !seen wolfspra*
2013-08-14 14:58 <qi-bot> kyak, I found 3 matches to your query: wolfspraul, wolfspra1l, wolfspra2l. wolfspraul (~wolfsprau@brln-4db8068c.pool.mediaWays.net) was last seen joining #qi-hardware 4 hours 56 minutes ago (14.08. 10:02). wolfspraul is still there.
2013-08-14 14:58 <kyak> oh.. i disabled joins/parts/quits - sorry :)
2013-08-14 14:59 <mth> anyway, the git server came back to life
2013-08-14 15:00 <kyak> with many object-oriented commits --)
2013-08-14 15:01 <mth> not so many this time; previous pushes had more refactoring in them
2013-08-14 15:03 <mth> although yesterday I nuked an abstract base class because it was adding more complexity than it was worth
2013-08-14 15:04 <mth> and it turned out that moving the base class's functionality into its two subclasses actually made the code shorter
2013-08-14 15:04 <viric> class inheritance is evil
2013-08-14 15:05 <viric> people who built that functionality made it look as if there were many situations where to apply it
2013-08-14 15:05 <mth> I do prefer interface inheritance + composition in most cases, yes
2013-08-14 15:06 <kyak> object-oriented programming makes me feel stupid -/
2013-08-14 15:08 <viric> kyak: it is a trap
2013-08-14 15:09 <viric> it's like nodejs trap on callbacks. "It's all callbacks! Easy!"
2013-08-14 15:10 <kyak> programming is trap!
2013-08-14 15:12 <viric> yes, quite. :)
2013-08-14 15:12 <viric> learn C, it's easy.
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2013-08-14 15:12 <viric> (then you need to find an editor, a compiler, learn how to call it, how the OS will let you run programs, ...
2013-08-14 15:12 <viric> )
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2013-08-14 15:12 <kyak> i did finish K&R recently btw
2013-08-14 15:12 <viric> but C is easy
2013-08-14 15:13 <viric> kyak: next, "The practice of programming" :)
2013-08-14 15:13 <kyak> viric: reading smart books without actually writing code is a waste of time anyway )
2013-08-14 15:13 <viric> or "The unix programming environment"
2013-08-14 15:14 <kyak> ah yes, that one should be intetesting
2013-08-14 15:14 <viric> reading a book about programming feels close to programming though. :)
2013-08-14 15:17 <kyak> looking at a girl feels close to having sex, right? -)
2013-08-14 15:24 <ysionneau> I don't wanna think about what you feel when looking at a dog then
2013-08-14 15:29 <kyak> that conversation has gone wrong way )
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2013-08-14 15:35 <ysionneau> indeed :)
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