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Since swap is used to get over the lack of RAM? 2013-07-25 14:02 there is zram 2013-07-25 14:03 you can ask a block device stored compressed in RAM, and then put swap on it. 2013-07-25 14:04 LunaVorax: ZRAM is basically compression of the application's RAM. so if it uses the memory inefficiently, you can have a significant saving 2013-07-25 14:04 for example, urjtag stores data one bit per byte. the other 7 bits in each byte are zero. that data compresses very well :) 2013-07-25 14:05 (urjtag) at least in the configuration i used. different targets/drivers will be different. 2013-07-25 14:08 That makes sense 2013-07-25 14:08 Are nanonotes still available to purchace ? 2013-07-25 14:09 pcercuei_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 14:10 pcercuei_ is now known as pcercuei 2013-07-25 14:11 I was disapointed to see that tuxbrain decided to do something else that selling hardware. 2013-07-25 14:11 Even though I can understand it 2013-07-25 14:12 LunaVorax: well.. i dont think that it was a 'decicion' but rather 'no time anymore' 2013-07-25 14:12 or "no money anymore" 2013-07-25 14:13 wpwrak: afaik no time... children or sth.? 2013-07-25 14:18 Hum well anyway 2013-07-25 14:18 so.. buy at pulster or whoever is left. they are happy for every sale too 2013-07-25 14:19 for the customer it shouldnt matter from where to where in the eu stuff gets sent 2013-07-25 14:19 nanonote prices will skyrocket soon since the stock is going empty ;) 2013-07-25 14:20 larsc: only with continuing demand 2013-07-25 14:21 thats the lesson missing from economics class... demand is never linear or predictible, so dont calculate with winnings you'll only have if you meet it exactly enough 2013-07-25 14:22 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 14:34 roh: pulster has the issue that he doesn't accept credit cards. this is an issue particularly for non-EU customer 2013-07-25 14:38 Why should the prices skyrocket? 2013-07-25 14:38 I *might* buy one, but if it gets over 100€ it's a no-go 2013-07-25 14:40 wpwrak: well.. i dont either and i know why. much too much work, too less pay 2013-07-25 14:40 hey wolfspraul 2013-07-25 14:42 roh: i know you hate credit cards :) but then you're not the last man standing when it comes to globally distributing qi-hw goodies 2013-07-25 14:42 wpwrak: may be. but i know what extra work is is. and nobody of the cc customers wants to pay that 2013-07-25 14:42 so in a way the price has already risen. e.g., wiring money can be pretty expensive from some places 2013-07-25 14:43 and even impossible from others. where credit cards would work. 2013-07-25 14:43 from my pov, accepting cc is atleast 10E/sale extra.. if you only do low-volume, much more. 2013-07-25 14:44 i know of events presaling tickets with cc acceptance... it costs basically an extra worker + 600E/month handling fee for the cc-acceptance. 2013-07-25 14:45 what does that extra worker do ? 2013-07-25 14:45 wpwrak: bookkeeping, back-bookings etc. 2013-07-25 14:45 ah.. and a chargeback eats atleast 12-20E in fees alone. 2013-07-25 14:45 wpwrak, if you want, you can do it for ehsm-2014, then you'll have a very precise idea of that crap ;) 2013-07-25 14:46 LunaVorax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25 14:46 if you want to accept a cc in your store (not online-sales, but instead of cash in a store, so meaning swiping/putting into a terminal) thats costs you 15-20E/month for the terminals and about 2 euros/sale 2013-07-25 14:47 and knowing all that.. yes, money transfers seem easy and cheap again ;) and cash rocks too. 2013-07-25 14:48 combined with 'as long as both transacting ends are within the EU -> any transactions should be charge free by law' 2013-07-25 14:48 thats what changed my thinking there. 2013-07-25 14:49 if i'd need to set up international sales, i'd never try to do centralised shipping and selling again. distributors in every continent/business regions from the start. anything else wastes time and money you usually do not have 2013-07-25 14:50 atleast thats what i know now :) 2013-07-25 14:50 lekernel: someone in argentina would be ideal for handling the financial transactions. at least there would be no trouble with chargebacks, because you can't transfer money out of the country anyway ;-) 2013-07-25 14:52 lekernel: and receiving inbound transfers means calling the bank for a transaction code, preparing a six page form, then going to the bank, signing it there (they need to authenticate the signature), and leaving a copy of your ID document. you get to do this for each transaction. 2013-07-25 14:52 i know some people who moved from cc services to cc via paypal, because it was less hassle in the end. go figure what that means in the end 2013-07-25 14:52 lekernel: in other words, you can charge pretty hefty handling fees ;-) 2013-07-25 14:53 roh: data arrives at NSA half a second earlier ? :) 2013-07-25 14:53 wpwrak: besides that. the broken support and stress of paypal was less work that dealing with the cc companies yourself. that bad. 2013-07-25 14:54 well, i can understand that they're careful. cc fraud of all sorts is rather attractive. procedural barriers also serve that purpose, even if indirectly. 2013-07-25 14:55 sure. thats not the problem. the problem is: if you put the extra cost of accepting CC to the customers paying with those, payments with a CC are about 10-20E more expensive than cash or bank transaction sales, seen from the seller. 2013-07-25 14:56 just: how to tell that to the customer in a way that he still wants to buy? 2013-07-25 15:05 wpwrak, there must be truly amazing sides to Argentina since you're staying there :) 2013-07-25 15:12 German bureaucracy is already a bit annoying to me. last funny episode was filling in a chemical weapon declaration for buying absolute alcohol... 2013-07-25 15:15 ;-)) 2013-07-25 15:17 bureaucracy here is awful. kafka had no idea. 2013-07-25 15:18 keeps people busy ;) 2013-07-25 15:25 well, 95% of that is generally waiting. 2013-07-25 15:26 but yes, it very efficiently keeps people from being productive 2013-07-25 15:38 ffio has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 15:44 ffio has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 2013-07-25 16:12 ffio has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:14 ffio has quit [Client Quit] 2013-07-25 16:22 mth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25 16:23 mth has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:23 ffio has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:25 freemor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2013-07-25 16:26 freemor has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:34 mog has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-25 16:46 mog has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:46 mog has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:50 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 16:53 ffio has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 2013-07-25 16:58 ffio has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 17:13 ffio has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 2013-07-25 17:44 ffio has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 18:50 ffio_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 18:50 ffio has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2013-07-25 19:01 lekernel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2013-07-25 19:12 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2013-07-25 19:17 Bandu has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:17 Ornotermes has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:17 mirko has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:17 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:17 larsc has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:18 Bandu has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:18 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:18 larsc has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:18 Ornotermes has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:18 mirko has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:18 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:20 viric has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:21 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:23 mth has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:23 rodgort has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:23 Jay7 has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:23 dandon has quit [*.net *.split] 2013-07-25 19:27 mth has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:35 rodgort has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:35 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 19:35 Jay7 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 20:52 wej_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-25 21:06 kyak has quit [] 2013-07-25 21:23 Bandu has quit [Quit: om nom nom delicious bitcoins...] 2013-07-25 21:24 kilae has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 2013-07-25 21:45 kyak has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 21:49 Coyo has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 21:49 Coyo is now known as Guest12006 2013-07-25 21:56 gbraad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-07-25 22:32 porchaso0 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 22:33 roh_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 22:34 roh has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-25 22:34 porchao has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2013-07-25 23:19 MistahDarcy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-07-25 23:19 MistahDarcy has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 23:41 rzk has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 23:42 Jay7 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-07-25 23:43 Jay7 has joined #qi-hardware 2013-07-25 23:44 rz2k has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]