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2013-06-19 09:37 <viric> zear: don't link with ld. link with gcc!
2013-06-19 09:37 <viric> ld is too low level
2013-06-19 09:38 <viric> zear: and put -lc at the end. symbols are resolved in the order you supply libraries.
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2013-06-19 10:48 <zear> viric, when using ld, -lc at the end doesn't change anything
2013-06-19 10:49 <zear> I will need to modify the internal toolchain's makerules to link with gcc
2013-06-19 10:50 <viric> then, don't supply -lc and such things
2013-06-19 10:50 <viric> gcc knows how to link a c program.
2013-06-19 10:51 <zear> well, -lc is supplied automatically by the internal makerules :)
2013-06-19 10:52 <viric> ld is a quite dumb linker. it doesn't know about c.
2013-06-19 10:52 <zear> the whole problem is really the lack of dev documentation in the project
2013-06-19 10:53 <zear> and decuding everything from the comments of the headers is not exactly the good way to learn about stuff
2013-06-19 10:55 <zear> by the way, i always thought that when you link with gcc, it calls ld
2013-06-19 10:55 <zear> but seems it's not how it is
2013-06-19 10:59 <wpwrak> gcc does call ld for linking. but it provides a number of options you may find hard to guess.
2013-06-19 10:59 <wpwrak> you can of course strace it and see what the arguments are, then work from that
2013-06-19 11:00 <zear> yes, but then a new version of gcc comes with some better optimizations towards linking
2013-06-19 11:00 <zear> so i think always linking with gcc is safer
2013-06-19 11:02 <wpwrak> there may not be a lot of changes. but yes, if something changes, then you probably wouldn't notice and spend a lot of time tracking the mystery problem down
2013-06-19 11:04 <viric> wpwrak: gcc -v shows all
2013-06-19 11:04 <viric> no need for strace
2013-06-19 11:04 <zear> ha, that's nice
2013-06-19 11:08 <wpwrak> fun: .au and .nz are not counted ;-)
2013-06-19 11:10 <larsc> counted for what?
2013-06-19 11:12 <wpwrak> oops, wrong channel. on http://tweetping.net
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2013-06-19 11:23 <zear> so how is the nanonote nowadays?
2013-06-19 11:24 <zear> i haven't been tracking the progress since.. 2011 or so
2013-06-19 11:24 <zear> are they still being sold?
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2013-06-19 11:34 <wpwrak> i think they are still available. not sure about the sales volume. i'm also not sure if sharism still sells them, or only pulster.
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