2013-06-18 00:08 <mth> viric: it takes some minutes, but not a whole lot, so if you have the patch ready and it only need verification, I'd be happy to test it
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2013-06-18 01:02 <freemor> Just checked my E-mail. was saddened to hear about the comments on the wiki. I'd love to see another nanonote type project but totally understand it's not an easy thing and that people have other they are working on. I hope the rudeness of a few people does not cause qi-hardwares leadership to become dishartened or to think that such views are held by the rest of the community.
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2013-06-18 07:09 <viric> mth: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.ssh.dropbear/1361
2013-06-18 07:09 <viric> Freemor: is pandora far from a project like the nanonote
2013-06-18 07:09 <viric> ?
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2013-06-18 14:39 <zear> xiangfu, hello, you there?
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2013-06-18 20:51 <shvelo> Hi!
2013-06-18 21:00 <zear> hey
2013-06-18 21:01 <shvelo> zear, what's up?
2013-06-18 21:01 <zear> my Wikireader arrived today
2013-06-18 21:01 <zear> however I have hard time finding any (proper) dev documentation
2013-06-18 21:01 <zear> tried to write a simple snake game, but the linker has a hard time finding malloc and free
2013-06-18 21:02 <zear> despite including stdlib.h
2013-06-18 21:02 <zear> xiangfu from this channel is mentioned in the Makefile headers of this project
2013-06-18 21:02 <zear> so i was hoping to get the info from him
2013-06-18 21:02 <zear> but he doesn't seem to be online
2013-06-18 21:03 <shvelo> ah
2013-06-18 21:03 <shvelo> btw what is wikireader?
2013-06-18 21:03 <viric> shvelo: ĉu ŝvelo?
2013-06-18 21:03 <zear> it's a portable wikipedia reader by OpenMoko
2013-06-18 21:04 <zear> Qi-Hardware is more or less a spiritual successor of OpenMoko
2013-06-18 21:04 <zear> shvelo, this thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fmaBBRhV0
2013-06-18 21:06 <shvelo> cool
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2013-06-18 21:30 <mth> zear: an include is just for the compiler, it does nothing for the linker
2013-06-18 21:30 <mth> if the linker can't find stuff, you have to use -L, -l or a path to a .a file
2013-06-18 21:31 <viric> mth: I just tried the dropbear patch in mips
2013-06-18 21:33 <mth> did it work?
2013-06-18 21:34 <viric> yes :)
2013-06-18 21:34 <viric> the bug was there since 2011, minimum
2013-06-18 21:34 <viric> incredible.
2013-06-18 21:36 <zear> mth, yes, and i tried it
2013-06-18 21:37 <zear> mth, would stdlib be part of -lc?
2013-06-18 21:38 <viric> stdlib.h is usually a header for symbols defined in '-lc', yes
2013-06-18 21:38 <viric> do you link with gcc?
2013-06-18 21:38 <viric> or you try to link with ld?
2013-06-18 21:38 <zear> it links from ld iirc
2013-06-18 21:38 <zear> let me set the compiler environment again
2013-06-18 21:38 <zear> -lc is present while linking
2013-06-18 21:42 <zear> viric, this is what i'm getting: http://pastebin.com/4vqu8GNh
2013-06-18 21:42 <zear> and indeed it links from ld
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2013-06-18 22:48 <zear> mth, any clue there?
2013-06-18 22:50 <mth> put -lc first?
2013-06-18 22:51 <mth> or last
2013-06-18 22:51 <mth> last, I think; that way all references to it are before the definition
2013-06-18 22:51 <zear> mth, oh i tried that
2013-06-18 22:52 <zear> i tried putting -o after libraries too
2013-06-18 22:52 <zear> but it's not -static
2013-06-18 22:52 <zear> so it's not needed
2013-06-18 22:52 <zear> however i did try that just in case
2013-06-18 22:52 <zear> with no luck
2013-06-18 22:53 <mth> it is libwsnake.a that cannot find the symbols from libc
2013-06-18 22:53 <mth> is malloc in libgcc.a maybe?
2013-06-18 22:53 <zear> let me swap libgcc.a with libwsnake.a
2013-06-18 22:53 <mth> in any case, but libwsnake.a with your .o's
2013-06-18 22:54 <mth> s/but/put/
2013-06-18 22:54 <qi-bot> mth meant: "in any case, put libwsnake.a with your .o's"
2013-06-18 22:55 <zear> mth, still no luck
2013-06-18 22:55 <zear> but i'm starting to think this is static linking order issue indeed
2013-06-18 22:57 <zear> my Makefile calls some internal toolchain makerules that generates this linking command
2013-06-18 22:57 <zear> in case you were wondering
2013-06-18 23:08 <mth> can a static lib even refer to a dynamic lib?
2013-06-18 23:09 <mth> maybe you should just extract the static lib and link its object files instead
2013-06-18 23:18 <zear> mth, i don't have much control of what's going on during the compilation process
2013-06-18 23:18 <zear> or rather - i don't really know what's going on behind all these toolchain makefiles
2013-06-18 23:20 <mth> you've got the output files now, so you can link whatever way you like
2013-06-18 23:20 <mth> once you find a way that works, you can look at how to do that within the system