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2013-05-14 12:58 <wpwrak> argh. adding the mips repo is fun ... some 50 branches and hundreds of tags
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2013-05-14 13:00 <Fallenou_> do branches they say ...
2013-05-14 13:01 <wpwrak> let's see if gitk can tell me where the development happens ...
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2013-05-14 14:33 <wpwrak> nice statement from CERN about KiCAD: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg09924.html
2013-05-14 14:34 <wpwrak> "I, as a hardware designer, was very jealous (in a good sense) of the freedom [kernel hackers] enjoy"
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2013-05-14 14:58 * lekernel is more jealous that while Linux is a decent operating system compared to proprietary solutions, NVIDIA et. al. have 5Gbps DRAM IOs while anything OSHW is well below that, for example
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2013-05-14 15:10 <wpwrak> yeah, the cost barriers for hardware are harder to crack
2013-05-14 15:11 <wpwrak> but as you said, it's called "hard-ware" for a reason :)
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2013-05-14 15:13 <wpwrak> lekernel: you'll like this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/otherfab/the-othermill-custom-circuits-at-your-fingertips
2013-05-14 15:14 <wpwrak> note: FR-1 only, 10 mil traces, and apparently no feedback on distance to surface
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2013-05-14 15:19 <wpwrak> i'm not even sure what FR-1 actually is. the paper-based junk (pertinax) is FR-2.
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2013-05-14 15:27 <lekernel> http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3040#comment-1223371 :-)
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2013-05-14 15:32 <wpwrak> dunno. the restrictions may often also come from lack of resources. both money and time.
2013-05-14 15:33 <lekernel> money is there but on the wrong projects (see kickstarter) and time would be there too if there were fewer distractions (rpi etc.)
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2013-05-14 15:33 <wpwrak> the USD 12 phone looks oddly DIY-ish. you'd expect them to do better for all that money :)
2013-05-14 15:35 <viric> everyone wants to play music with bananas
2013-05-14 15:35 <viric> at least, the people with money
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2013-05-14 15:36 <wpwrak> don't complain about kickstarter wasting a million here or there. complain about your government wasting orders of magnitude more money on keeping the troughs well filled
2013-05-14 15:37 <lekernel> of course, after getting a rpi myself and being surprised at how bad it actually is, it's clear that the million+ people who have one are not those that get much done
2013-05-14 15:37 <wpwrak> so getting it diminished your productivity :)
2013-05-14 15:37 <viric> yes, one thing is a banana keyboard on public market, another thing is a banana keyboard funded with public money
2013-05-14 15:39 <whitequa2k> lekernel: I'd want to hear about your rpi experiences :)
2013-05-14 15:39 <wpwrak> a banana-based instrument could actually be fun. remove the squishy stuff while keeping the skin intact. dry and harden the skin. then make holes and add whatever generates the waves (mouthpiece, strings, ...)
2013-05-14 15:39 <lekernel> ha :) I assumed it would be a trouble-free and cheap HDMI source for Mixxeo demos. I was wrong. even changing the screen resolution requires editing a file parsed by the proprietary GPU bootloader - xrandr etc. do not work
2013-05-14 15:39 <lekernel> and needs rebooting like in the windows 95 times :)
2013-05-14 15:40 * wpwrak cackles evilly
2013-05-14 15:40 <whitequa2k> wpwrak: you're by far not the first person to think about this :)
2013-05-14 15:40 <whitequa2k> there's even a band
2013-05-14 15:40 <whitequa2k> playing on various dried fruits & vegetables
2013-05-14 15:41 <lekernel> then, as I mentioned on #milkymist, the SoC is not capable of decent video playback without the proprietary and paid hardware accelerated codecs
2013-05-14 15:42 <wpwrak> whitequa2k: so the musicians haven't all forgotten about being creative. good :)
2013-05-14 15:43 <wpwrak> lekernel: regarding your playback misery, how about recoding your video to something that's a bit easier on the CPU ?
2013-05-14 15:43 <lekernel> who needs electronics for that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEeiRXOlWUE :)
2013-05-14 15:43 <lekernel> wpwrak, yeah, I'll try that. but still the rpi is "disappointing".
2013-05-14 15:44 <viric> wpwrak: today this hit the news: http://www.juandemariana.org/comentario/5987/defensa/voto/censitario/
2013-05-14 15:45 <viric> voting value, bound to amount of payment. :)
2013-05-14 15:46 <wpwrak> kewl idea. finally a clean way to legalize corruption. is he from argentina ?
2013-05-14 15:48 <viric> "El Instituto Juan de Mariana (IJM) es una institución independiente dedicada a la investigación de los asuntos públicos"
2013-05-14 15:49 <viric> no, Spaniard, I'm afraid
2013-05-14 15:50 <viric> we already have 'UPyD' (Vargas Llosa & friends), which want voting power proportional "to intelligence"
2013-05-14 15:50 <viric> (they count themselves among the most intelligent)
2013-05-14 15:55 <wpwrak> maybe voter exam wouldn't be all that bad
2013-05-14 15:55 <wpwrak> should get rid of some of the more populist votes
2013-05-14 15:56 <viric> it will not be you checking the exams, remember.
2013-05-14 15:56 <wpwrak> well, you could make them and the results public
2013-05-14 15:57 <wpwrak> you could still get leakage fraud, though
2013-05-14 15:57 <viric> recently the citizenship was denied to an african that worked many years in Spain, because in the "citizenship exam", he didn't know the name of the wife of the president.
2013-05-14 15:57 <viric> I didn't know the name either.
2013-05-14 15:58 <wpwrak> perhaps the correct answer is "i usually call her honey" ;-)
2013-05-14 16:00 <wpwrak> i mean, a stupid and degrading question merits an answer of the same kind
2013-05-14 16:00 <wpwrak> but i suppose he didn't fail the exam just because of that. it may just have been the most memorable nonsense question.
2013-05-14 16:01 <viric> yes, but the african payed for the exam, and didn't success
2013-05-14 16:01 <viric> ~500€ iirc
2013-05-14 16:01 <wpwrak> you mean he paid extra to ensure success and they still failed him ?
2013-05-14 16:02 <viric> no :)
2013-05-14 16:02 <wpwrak> ah, spain, i forgot
2013-05-14 16:02 <erikkugel> Oh, Spain... what a great weather you got!
2013-05-14 16:02 <viric> 568€
2013-05-14 16:02 <erikkugel> anyone familiar with eltiempo.es?
2013-05-14 16:02 <wpwrak> this is how it's done: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1581196-mas-firmas-admiten-en-eeuu-el-pago-de-coimas-en-el-pais
2013-05-14 16:03 <wpwrak> and here's the solution to pesky investigations: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1581812-en-medio-de-fuertes-criticas-el-proyecto-de-blanqueo-de-capitales-comienza-a-ser-tratado-en-
2013-05-14 16:03 <viric> (568€ were to proceed with the complain about the result)
2013-05-14 16:04 <wpwrak> and of course: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1581855-cristina-kirchner-decreto-la-designacion-de-los-tres-conjueces-cercanos-a-lazaro-baez
2013-05-14 16:05 <wpwrak> (just to be on the safe side, i guess)
2013-05-14 16:05 <viric> nah, here is nicer. A law that allows to launder any money, without questions, if a 10% of the amount is payed as taxes.
2013-05-14 16:06 <wpwrak> we had that in 2009
2013-05-14 16:06 <viric> oh, you win :)
2013-05-14 16:06 <wpwrak> this one is better: no extra charges
2013-05-14 16:07 <wpwrak> here are the details: http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/160447-Blanqueo-2008-vs-2013-qu-cambios-incluye-el-nuevo-proyecto-que-busca-captar-los-dlares-no-declarados
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2013-05-14 16:09 <viric> wpwrak: ah, cheaper, but yours includes questions
2013-05-14 16:10 <viric> no? quick read.
2013-05-14 16:10 <viric> I don't really want to know the deep details :)
2013-05-14 16:13 <wpwrak> not a lot of questions. and it's probably quite okay to just ignore those you don't like :)
2013-05-14 16:13 <wpwrak> also, never underestimate the power of poor memory
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2013-05-14 16:18 <wpwrak> hmm, tricky git question: i've added a remote repository to my tree but i picked a bad name for it. now i added it again, under the correct name. deleting the remote branches and the .git/config entry of the old one should be safe now, shouldn't it ?
2013-05-14 16:18 <wpwrak> (both are up to date, so content is identical)
2013-05-14 16:22 <Fallenou_> cannot you git remote rm  <name> ?
2013-05-14 16:25 <wpwrak> ah, that seems to be even nicer :) thanks !
2013-05-14 16:25 <larsc> both methods will work
2013-05-14 16:25 <wpwrak> let's see what happens
2013-05-14 16:27 <wpwrak> seems everything survived. nice :)
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