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16:28 "no? nevermind then" 2013-05-05 16:28 sivoais has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 16:29 can we hack the transceivers to make nice synthetic aperture radars? 2013-05-05 16:29 lekernel: I believe that by 2014, obtaining an SDR will be even easier than it is now 2013-05-05 16:30 I assume you've seen this? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1085541682/bladerf-usb-30-software-defined-radio 2013-05-05 16:32 yeah - first non-sucky and funded kickstarter project I've seen 2013-05-05 16:32 indeed. (well, I won't be so critical but yes, these guys know what they're doing.) 2013-05-05 16:38 sivoais has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-05-05 16:39 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2013-05-05 16:40 whitequark: SDR that can record all that sounds tricky 2013-05-05 16:40 sivoais has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 16:40 lindi-: all what? 2013-05-05 16:40 whitequark: 7 Gbit/s 2013-05-05 16:42 lindi-: right... but you don't need that for a radar? 2013-05-05 16:42 whitequark: nope but for debugging wlan that would be nice 2013-05-05 16:43 sure... I wonder what the wlan devs are using 2013-05-05 16:43 something insanely expensive from a major test equipment vendor, I suppose 2013-05-05 16:43 whitequark: well easy, but a repeater in every room ;) 2013-05-05 16:44 larsc: that kinda breaks the whole idea of "wireless" 2013-05-05 16:44 people VERY dislike drilling holes in their walls, much less making channels. 2013-05-05 16:44 who cares what people like or not? 2013-05-05 16:44 ;) 2013-05-05 16:45 'Also, oxygen molecules begin to absorb electromagnetic energy at this frequency;' 2013-05-05 16:45 yeah, NVIDIA has 5Gbps/pin DRAM, 802.11ad have ADC/DACs that can be used to build a 7Gbps modem, countless SoC makers have embedded CPUs that run at 2+GHz, meanwhile we're stuck with slowtan6 FPGAs that choke running a CPU at 83MHz, have 1Gbps IOs that are a royal pain to use, and commercially available ADC/DACs are typically <= 1Gsps 2013-05-05 16:45 this is kinda frustrating 2013-05-05 16:46 'Both the WirelessHD and WiGig camps are working on beam-forming algorithms that would focus 60GHz transmissions to alleviate the range issue.' 2013-05-05 16:46 ugh 2013-05-05 16:46 btw, a few weeks ago I was googling and trying to an open source solution for receiving OOK signals with SDR. surprisingly I wasn't able to find anything that'd try to lock to the timing signal and decode the bits automatically 2013-05-05 16:46 reliability hell 2013-05-05 16:46 oh and 'wall-mounted reflectors' 2013-05-05 16:47 of course I can write that in a few lines of C but I was bit surprised that such a basic block would not exist 2013-05-05 16:49 * whitequark is reading about X.25 2013-05-05 16:49 sivoais has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-05-05 16:49 X.25 provides a set of user facilities defined and described in ITU-T Recommendation X.2.[34] The X.2 user facilities fall into five categories: 2013-05-05 16:49 essential facilities; 2013-05-05 16:49 additional facilities; 2013-05-05 16:49 conditional facilities; 2013-05-05 16:49 seems like a horrible case of 'design by committee' 2013-05-05 16:49 mandatory facilities; and, 2013-05-05 16:49 optional facilities. 2013-05-05 16:51 who still uses x.25? 2013-05-05 16:51 sivoais has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 16:52 larsc, this sounds fun. can you make a plasma gun with a high-energy 60Ghz source? 2013-05-05 16:53 lekernel: for educational/historic purposes 2013-05-05 16:53 s/energy/power 2013-05-05 16:53 lekernel meant: "larsc, this sounds fun. can you make a plasma gun with a high-power 60Ghz source?" 2013-05-05 16:54 sivoais has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2013-05-05 16:55 sivoais has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 17:00 lekernel: we'll see ;) 2013-05-05 17:01 on the other hand can you make a microwave oven using a 2.4GHz router? 2013-05-05 17:03 well, with 10000x 2.4GHz routers ;) for this sort of power at 60GHz you'd use a gyrotron 2013-05-05 18:20 valhalla has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2013-05-05 18:22 valhalla has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 19:14 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 19:58 jekhor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2013-05-05 21:41 unclouded has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 22:30 jekhor_ has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 22:30 guanucoluis has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 22:42 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2013-05-05 22:54 guanucoluis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2013-05-05 23:02 zrafa has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2013-05-05 23:08 zrafa has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 23:19 _whitelogger has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 23:19 FDCX has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2013-05-05 23:22 biot has joined #qi-hardware 2013-05-05 23:24 FDCX has joined #qi-hardware