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2013-04-02 02:19 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/: echo back TX ACK sequence number; don't panic if driver times out TX (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/367c1ab
2013-04-02 02:27 <wpwrak> nice. atusb can now overrun atben :)
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2013-04-02 05:29 <kyak> (global variables in tcc) the last message from Rob is very valid. I just don't understand why he can't as easily expand it to multiple C files
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2013-04-02 06:22 <larsc> hm, I find it real hard to say whether this was a April fools joke or not http://www.meetingcpp.com/index.php/br/items/a-look-at-c14-papers-part-2.html
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2013-04-02 07:32 <viric> wpwrak: what do you think of the answer? http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2013-04/threads.html
2013-04-02 07:32 <viric> I think I agree with Rob
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2013-04-02 09:35 <wpwrak> viric: seems that K&R leaves this indeed somewhat unclear. but they also mention that it's commonly extended to multiple translation (compilation) units. not sure if later standards take a more explicit position there.
2013-04-02 09:39 <viric> well, K&R (and c99, it's the same paragraph) talk explicitly about translation unit
2013-04-02 09:39 <viric> "If no definition for the object appears in the
2013-04-02 09:39 <viric> translation unit, all its tentative definitions become a single
2013-04-02 09:39 <viric> definition with initializer 0."
2013-04-02 09:40 <viric> So, *in a translation unit*, it ends up becoming *a definition*.
2013-04-02 09:40 <wpwrak> K&R also mention the whole program in the footnote
2013-04-02 09:42 <viric> wpwrak: what section?
2013-04-02 09:45 <wpwrak> indented paragraph in small italics at the end of A10.2
2013-04-02 09:45 <wpwrak> page 227 (K&R 2nd Ed.)
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2013-04-02 09:53 <kyak> i think this equally applies to multiple translation units
2013-04-02 09:53 <kyak> i don't see a reason why it has to be different
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2013-04-02 10:54 <whitequark> are you *still* discussing `int a;`?!
2013-04-02 11:19 <Fallenou_> that's a pretty complex C instruction
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2013-04-02 11:51 <kyak> i can't help noticing that the whole discussion took place on the 1st of April :)
2013-04-02 11:53 <kyak> so people from tcc might have taken it as a joke anyway :)
2013-04-02 12:02 <viric> :)
2013-04-02 12:04 <viric> wpwrak: right I see the paragraph
2013-04-02 12:04 <viric> "Some implementations relax it by generalizing the notion of tentative definition."
2013-04-02 12:06 <viric> wpwrak: but iso C99 has the writing more like applying only to a single translation unit
2013-04-02 12:06 <kyak> doesn't matter, because "it is in effect identical to the one stated here"
2013-04-02 12:07 <kyak> tcc needs a lawyer :)
2013-04-02 12:07 <viric> wpwrak: in fact, that 2nd edition says: "For objects with external linkage, it applies to the entire program. "
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2013-04-02 12:56 <wpwrak> whitequark: who cares about tcc anyway ? ;-)
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2013-04-02 20:22 <LunaVorax> Hi!
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2013-04-02 22:11 <wpwrak> kewl. seems that the flooding of buenos aires even killed the mobile networks. that doesn't ususally happen.
2013-04-02 22:28 <wpwrak> or rather, made them reset, kicking out subscribers. cycling the phone seems to bring back the service. tough technology :)
2013-04-02 22:42 <whitequark> eh GSM
2013-04-02 22:42 <whitequark> *blargh*
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