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2013-02-01 01:14 <wpwrak> roh: it's not only what schneier writes. there are also often good discussions. the better part of the internet hive mind at work :)
2013-02-01 01:25 <whitequark> and friday squids!
2013-02-01 01:27 <wpwrak> yeah, the squids. have to be on good terms with Cthulhu
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2013-02-01 04:51 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ircstat/ML: update for 1/2013 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/886f29b
2013-02-01 04:55 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ircstat/mlstat: add 2013 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/7d07976
2013-02-01 05:02 <whitequark> look: https://github.com/digego/extempore
2013-02-01 05:08 <wpwrak> lithp reloadeth ?
2013-02-01 05:18 <whitequark> which lithp?
2013-02-01 05:19 <wpwrak> the language looks lispish
2013-02-01 05:20 <whitequark> ah
2013-02-01 05:21 <whitequark> syntax doesn't matter
2013-02-01 05:21 <wpwrak> i'll keep that for my famous last words collection :)
2013-02-01 05:21 <whitequark> sigh
2013-02-01 05:22 <whitequark> syntax doesn't matter for the purpose of asking to look at features provided by this language; features which do not depend on its syntax having any particular form
2013-02-01 05:22 <whitequark> is this better?
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2013-02-01 05:35 <wpwrak> ah :) so what's the killer feature ? "cyberphysical" sounds like coming from the inaccurate sciences department :)
2013-02-01 05:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c (gui): move position display to show_position; add position in samples (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/5b050b4
2013-02-01 05:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c: add user-defined zero reference (set/unset with space) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/b99c814
2013-02-01 05:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c (pos_step): step one sample at maximum zoom (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/9cc0328
2013-02-01 05:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c (si_text): used fixed %7.3f format if we have 7 characters (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/60b3751
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2013-02-01 15:30 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/README: briefly describe GUI use (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/0058175
2013-02-01 15:30 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c (gui_init): disable the cursor on the Ben (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/9c3caf2
2013-02-01 15:30 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c: move sample retrieval to new function get_sample (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/47e5859
2013-02-01 15:30 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/gui.c: Shift+Left/Right jumps "intelligently" to next change on any channel (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/aa1106e
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2013-02-01 18:47 <LunaVorax> Hi!
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2013-02-01 20:42 <kukac> Hi, i am a beginner in cross compiling. I tried to follow these instructions: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image#Downloading_sources and I get an error message:
2013-02-01 20:43 <kukac> make -r world: build failed. [...] Error 1
2013-02-01 20:43 <kukac> now trying with V=99 switch
2013-02-01 20:43 <kukac> it is a amd64 system
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make  all-recursive
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[5]: Entering directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[6]: Entering directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs/src'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> Making all in src
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> Making all in mklibs-readelf
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[7]: Entering directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs/src/mklibs-readelf'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../..   -O2 -I/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/host/include -I/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/tools/mklibs/include  -g -O2 -MT elf.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/elf.Tpo -c -o elf.o elf.cpp
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> elf.cpp: In static member function 'static Elf::file* Elf::file::open(const char*)':
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> elf.cpp:68:5: error: '::close' has not been declared
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[7]: *** [elf.o] Error 1
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[7]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs/src/mklibs-readelf'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[6]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs/src'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[4]: *** [all] Error 2
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[3]: *** [/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/build_dir/host/mklibs/.built] Error 2
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/tools/mklibs'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[2]: *** [tools/mklibs/compile] Error 2
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[1]: *** [/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1/stamp/.tools_install_nnynn] Error 2
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/user/xcompile_xburst/openwrt-xburst'
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> make: *** [world] Error 2
2013-02-01 20:45 <kukac> got this with V=99
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2013-02-01 21:35 <wpwrak> kukac: i don't know what's wrong with the openwrt build here, but if you're on some kind of debian x86-64, you could try the precompiled toolchain instead
2013-02-01 21:39 <kukac> wpwrak: I am trying to find it on the qi-hardware site. Thanks
2013-02-01 21:46 <wpwrak> this is roughly the process that worked for me the last time
2013-02-01 21:47 <wpwrak> installs toolchain and "SDK". the latter contains the most important libraries.
2013-02-01 21:48 <wpwrak> the "export" in the last line should go into .bash_profile or similar
2013-02-01 21:49 <wpwrak> instead of the  ln -sf  you could also add that directory to your PATH.
2013-02-01 21:50 <kukac> wpwrak: I am trying now with the script on http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_OpenWRT_on_Debian_6
2013-02-01 21:51 <kukac> wpwrak: this script worked on my laptop
2013-02-01 22:00 <wpwrak> sounds promising :)
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