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2013-01-10 05:22 <kyak> viric: wives always talk about insanity ;)
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2013-01-10 08:15 <viric> no idea, but a fair amount of the russians I know use to mention "that's insane" for things other people do. I mean it's a noticeable easy trigger for that :)
2013-01-10 08:15 <viric> moreover, I think that changing dictionary definitions may be something very clever instead of insane.
2013-01-10 08:16 <viric> Yes, it's a scandal, but scandals last two days, and then life goes on
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2013-01-10 12:54 <whitequark> viric: interesting observation
2013-01-10 12:54 <whitequark> I wonder why does this happen
2013-01-10 12:56 <viric> :)
2013-01-10 12:57 <viric> I think most russians I know tend to have a worldview of they feeling as "perfect logic analyzers", so all foreign that doesn't match becomes ilogic or insane.
2013-01-10 12:57 <viric> Maybe it's something in the education system
2013-01-10 12:57 <viric> but instead of thinking "weird, I don't understand why those people do that", they think "those people are insane"
2013-01-10 12:58 <viric> But maybe simply the construction "they are insane" is a russian pattern to mean "I don't understand those"
2013-01-10 12:58 <kyak> it's just a common phrase
2013-01-10 12:58 <kyak> not just they really think they are insane
2013-01-10 12:58 <viric> yes, can be.
2013-01-10 12:59 <whitequark> I would say that both are partly correct. But yes, I didn't mean that those spaniards were *literally* insane :)
2013-01-10 12:59 <viric> For us, the english idiom "I'm excited" here has clear sexual connotations
2013-01-10 12:59 <viric> Yet english people say "I received the nanonote! I'm excited about it!"
2013-01-10 13:00 <viric> :)
2013-01-10 13:00 <viric> and I bet they don't mean anything sexual
2013-01-10 13:00 <whitequark> dunno, it doesn't sound sexual for me when said in english
2013-01-10 13:00 <whitequark> in russian, indeed it would
2013-01-10 13:02 <kyak> "взволнован" sounds stupid, "возбужден" has sexual context :)
2013-01-10 13:03 <whitequark> imo "can't wait to <verb>" would be the best alternative for translating "excited"
2013-01-10 13:06 <kyak> in this case you would have to come up with that <verb>
2013-01-10 13:08 <kyak> "взбудоражен" :)
2013-01-10 13:23 <whitequark> hehe
2013-01-10 13:24 <whitequark> morons making my notebook decided to omit 2.0 support in chipset completely and implement it through a rate-matching hub
2013-01-10 13:24 <whitequark> so without xhci-hcd loaded I cannot access any of my external ports, whereas that would be a 2.0 or 3.0 device on them
2013-01-10 13:25 <whitequark> and given that xhci-hcd fails to recognize STM32VLDISCOVERY, hm, I've no idea what to do
2013-01-10 13:25 <whitequark> except to begin despising new technology
2013-01-10 13:25 <kyak> would external usb 2.0 hub be of any help?
2013-01-10 13:26 <whitequark> oh, actually I wasn.t exactly right. they DID implement 2.0 support in chipset, but only routed it to internal devices.
2013-01-10 13:26 <whitequark> kyak: probably no
2013-01-10 13:26 <whitequark> the problem is with the linux driver and/or differences in HCI implementation
2013-01-10 13:26 <whitequark> linux *xhci* driver, which gets to identify the device regardless of its actual usb version
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2013-01-10 13:29 <whitequark> hm well, for some reason the usb-storage quirk helped
2013-01-10 13:30 <whitequark> I'm feeling quite stupid right now
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2013-01-10 13:42 <whitequark> meh, the flasher doesn't work anyway
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2013-01-10 16:02 <DocScrutinizer05> whitequark: lol
2013-01-10 16:02 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: what in particular?
2013-01-10 16:02 <DocScrutinizer05> 3.0 and converter for external ports
2013-01-10 16:03 <DocScrutinizer05> or rather: 2.0 for internal USB only
2013-01-10 16:03 <whitequark> oh indeed
2013-01-10 16:03 <whitequark> intel surely does some weird decisions
2013-01-10 16:03 <DocScrutinizer05> morons don't consider at least one genuine 2.0 external port
2013-01-10 16:04 <whitequark> it seems that they use the rate-matching hub technique for a long time; they did the same with 1.0/2.0
2013-01-10 16:04 <wpwrak> the magazines like it if all the ports are USB 3.0 ;-)
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