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2012-12-06 00:30 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: i meant you dedicate more time in hdl sometimes wiring than even designing logic..
2012-12-06 00:30 <wolfspraul> wpwrak: ok great, I think your schhist fixes worked, see http://projects.qi-hardware.com/schhist/atusb/
2012-12-06 00:30 <wolfspraul> so that is settled (again)
2012-12-06 00:30 <wolfspraul> thanks!
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2012-12-06 00:41 <wpwrak> whee, great !
2012-12-06 00:44 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: a case for migen ?
2012-12-06 00:49 <kristianpaul> haha ;)
2012-12-06 00:49 <kristianpaul> perhaps :D
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2012-12-06 01:23 <qwebirc47010> hi
2012-12-06 01:23 <wolfspraul> qwebirc47010: hi :-)
2012-12-06 01:23 <qwebirc47010> I am reflashing the ben nanote but meet a problem.
2012-12-06 01:23 <qwebirc47010> wolfspraul: Hi, I am atommann :)
2012-12-06 01:23 <qwebirc47010> I meet you in HQB before.
2012-12-06 01:23 <qwebirc47010> usbboot :> nprog 2048 openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-root.ubi 0 0 -n
2012-12-06 01:24 <wolfspraul> ah nice
2012-12-06 01:24 <wolfspraul> hqb?
2012-12-06 01:24 <wolfspraul> in shenzhen?
2012-12-06 01:24 <qwebirc47010> I get this message: not enough argument.
2012-12-06 01:24 <wpwrak> heh, for once someone how isn't stuck at reset :)
2012-12-06 01:24 <qwebirc47010> Yes, in Shenzhen Hua Qiang Bei
2012-12-06 01:25 <qwebirc47010> wolfspraul: how can I fix it?
2012-12-06 01:25 <wolfspraul> I had that 'argument' error too but it was a long time ago and I forgot the details
2012-12-06 01:25 <wolfspraul> did you copy/paste the line?
2012-12-06 01:25 <wpwrak> qwebirc47010: does doubling some of the spaces make a difference ?
2012-12-06 01:25 <wolfspraul> try to just restart usbboot and type the line by hand
2012-12-06 01:25 <wolfspraul> bbiab (20min)
2012-12-06 01:26 <qwebirc47010> yes, I copy/paste from the wiki page.
2012-12-06 01:26 <wpwrak> i think i had something like this once and "fixed" it by rearranging the content of the command line such that it still said the same (semantically) but had a different length
2012-12-06 01:27 <wolfspraul> yes
2012-12-06 01:27 <wpwrak> you may also want to check for the present/absence of trailing spaces
2012-12-06 01:27 <qwebirc47010> OK, I'll try.
2012-12-06 01:27 <wpwrak> that was a very long time ago, so it may have been fixed in more recent versions of the tools. or maybe not :)
2012-12-06 01:29 <qwebirc47010> wpwrak: you mean the xburst-tool?
2012-12-06 01:29 <qwebirc47010> I install the old version, maybe 2010
2012-12-06 01:31 <qwebirc47010> Hi
2012-12-06 01:31 <wpwrak> yes, xburst-tools
2012-12-06 01:31 <qwebirc47010> I restart usbboot and the "nprog 2048 openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-root.ubi 0 0 -n" is working now!
2012-12-06 01:31 <qwebirc47010> thank you guys.
2012-12-06 01:31 <wpwrak> 2010 sounds like about the time when i hit that problem
2012-12-06 01:32 <wpwrak> kewl :) you may still want to upgrade to a more modern version, though. that problem is likely to come back at some point in time, and it's a confusing one.
2012-12-06 01:33 <qwebirc47010> thanks, I will.
2012-12-06 01:34 <qwebirc47010> cool toy
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2012-12-06 22:12 <wpwrak> yeah, had a brief local one (just in my apartment). and the PC that's my gateway to the internet needs to be cut from power for a good while before it will let itself be switched on again.
2012-12-06 22:14 <wpwrak> today is a wild day in buenos aires. it started with a fire in the harbour, releasing mildly toxic, very smelly, and highly irritating smoke into downtown. schools were evacuated, and so on.
2012-12-06 22:15 <wpwrak> that was followed by torrential rains all day long.
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2012-12-06 22:17 <kristianpaul> looks bit scary (tricky gateway)
2012-12-06 22:18 <wpwrak> now, there's are protests planned for this evening in response to 1) a new media law with dubious characteristics, pushed by the government, and 2) increasingly aggressive attacks by government officials again the Judicial Branch in an attempt to force it to get out of the way of enforcement of that law.
2012-12-06 22:19 <whitequark> shameless plug: http://whitequark.org/blog/2012/12/06/a-language-for-embedded-developers/
2012-12-06 22:20 <wpwrak> (gateway) oh, that machine is ancient. about 8 years old. it's been having that sort of quirks for a long time already. once it's up, it works fine, though.
2012-12-06 22:20 <wpwrak> whitequark: oooh ... and i was so hoping to see something like e-COBOL ;-)
2012-12-06 22:24 <MistahDarcy> just got my nanonote :D
2012-12-06 22:24 <kristianpaul> hey nice ! :-)
2012-12-06 22:24 <MistahDarcy> I had a good laugh at the manual
2012-12-06 22:24 <MistahDarcy> Creative Commons is half the thing, lol
2012-12-06 22:25 <kristianpaul> haha ;)
2012-12-06 22:25 <whitequark> wpwrak: hehe
2012-12-06 22:25 <MistahDarcy> Impressed with the build quality. Also, the keys are nice and quiet when pressed!
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2012-12-06 23:18 <roh> hmmm.. are tantalum smd caps marked on the positive or negative terminal?
2012-12-06 23:20 <wpwrak> the data sheet should tell you where the markings are
2012-12-06 23:22 <roh> got no datasheet
2012-12-06 23:24 <wpwrak> well, then pick a few of similar parts and see if there's a pattern :) i would expect to find markings on the plus side, but who knows if that's always the case.
2012-12-06 23:25 <wpwrak> maybe there's also a way to measure it ?
2012-12-06 23:26 <roh> mmmh
2012-12-06 23:26 <roh> got no similar parts
2012-12-06 23:27 <roh> digikey doesnt have a manual... i guess its +
2012-12-06 23:27 <roh> 50-50 chance
2012-12-06 23:27 <roh> even if a regular cap got minus marked
2012-12-06 23:31 <roh> ah.. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantal-Elektrolytkondensator
2012-12-06 23:31 <roh> evil.. tantalums are marked at the +, rest of the caps on -
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2012-12-06 23:40 <wpwrak> ;-)