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2012-11-16 02:22 <e2580> anyone interested in seeing an open source hardware encrypted storage device ?
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2012-11-16 21:07 <e2580> anyone interested in seeing an open source hardware encrypted storage device ?
2012-11-16 21:07 <lindi-> e2580: how about just pasting a link?
2012-11-16 21:07 <e2580> http://www.indiegogo.com/CryptX2
2012-11-16 21:08 <e2580> let me know if you got questions on it
2012-11-16 21:12 <lindi-> e2580: I think we already talked about this.
2012-11-16 21:13 <lindi-> e2580: maybe ping me when the source code is available
2012-11-16 21:13 <e2580> maybe. been here a few times :)
2012-11-16 21:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> why not simply using cryptsetup + LUKS + GNU/Linux + Coreboot ?
2012-11-16 21:17 <GNUtoo-desktop> assuming coreboot works well, the setup works pretty well
2012-11-16 21:19 <wpwrak> e2580: i wonder if you realize that the audience here is pretty static. endlessly repeating the same message will only get people annoyed.
2012-11-16 21:21 <e2580> luks/truecrypt etc require you to enter the password into the computer and the aeskey is in ram
2012-11-16 21:21 <e2580> the crpytx2 is completely independent from the computer
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2012-11-16 21:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> well you can use luks with a key too
2012-11-16 21:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> like --key-file
2012-11-16 21:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> or something like that
2012-11-16 21:36 <GNUtoo-desktop> *cryptsetup
2012-11-16 21:40 <e2580> and that is still in ram on the computer, same as if you typed in a password
2012-11-16 21:41 <e2580> you can easily dump the computers ram and pull the aes key from it
2012-11-16 21:41 <e2580> as well as other methods
2012-11-16 21:44 <rz2k> e2580: do you realize that this channel is about open hardware and people here kind of know that 'It is in ram' is marketing crap until a good proof of concept attack available
2012-11-16 21:44 <rz2k> ?
2012-11-16 21:47 <larsc> actually there are some good proof of concept attacks available
2012-11-16 21:47 <rz2k> like aes steal thru micro fluctuations of power consumption?
2012-11-16 21:48 <rz2k> that can be applied to the hardware key itself, so it is pointless :p
2012-11-16 21:49 <rz2k> s/pointless/pointless to have the key/
2012-11-16 21:49 <qi-bot> rz2k meant: "that can be applied to the hardware key itself, so it is pointless to have the key :p"
2012-11-16 21:53 <e2580> this is not a hardware key, it is a complete self contained hardware encryption device.
2012-11-16 21:53 <e2580> all encryption is done on the device
2012-11-16 21:53 <e2580> the mcu also has ecm to prevent dpa attacks
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2012-11-16 22:14 <GNUtoo-desktop> e2580, then what happens if the device get stolen?
2012-11-16 22:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> since it has no password protection.....
2012-11-16 22:15 <e2580> have you seen the device or video ?
2012-11-16 22:15 <GNUtoo-desktop> beside MCU are not powerfull => easy cracking
2012-11-16 22:16 <GNUtoo-desktop> altough it depend on how stuff is implemented
2012-11-16 22:16 <e2580> ^
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2012-11-16 22:21 <GNUtoo-desktop> how did you get the FIPS certification?
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2012-11-16 22:22 <rz2k> e2580: you should do paper/pdf presentation of whats happening. I have no flash installed, so no video for me. also journalists copy-paste press releases more than videos.
2012-11-16 22:22 <GNUtoo-desktop> is there source code available?
2012-11-16 22:22 <e2580> not fips certified, fips compliant
2012-11-16 22:22 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
2012-11-16 22:23 <rz2k> your only way to go big is get into news feeds, spamming opensource places with yourself will only hurt.
2012-11-16 22:23 <e2580> since the project is open source, its nto practical to do fipts cert
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2012-11-16 22:23 <e2580> each revision would require recertification
2012-11-16 22:23 <GNUtoo-desktop> so there is source code?
2012-11-16 22:24 <e2580> source code will be available soon. we are finishng the hidden data feature and cleaning up the code
2012-11-16 22:24 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
2012-11-16 22:24 <e2580> firmware is gpl3
2012-11-16 22:24 <e2580> hardware we are still looking for license
2012-11-16 22:24 <GNUtoo-desktop> ok
2012-11-16 22:24 <e2580> it will all be fully open source
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