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2012-10-31 08:35 <wolfspraul> wow the openmoko wiki has broken down under the spam
2012-10-31 08:35 <wolfspraul> the entire wiki should be set to read-only asap
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2012-10-31 08:41 <pabs3> wolfspraul: have an example? looks ok to me
2012-10-31 08:41 <pabs3> ah, RecentChanges :/
2012-10-31 08:41 <wolfspraul> check RecentChanges
2012-10-31 08:42 <wolfspraul> looks like a fake account every few minutes, two new spam pages her hour or so
2012-10-31 08:42 <wolfspraul> and the heroic folks that kept pressing the delete buttons all these years seem gone :-)
2012-10-31 08:42 <wolfspraul> needs to be set to r/o asap
2012-10-31 08:43 <pabs3> passed the message on to LaF0rge, will send a mail too
2012-10-31 08:43 <wolfspraul> poor Harald :-) that was not my intention :-)
2012-10-31 08:44 <wolfspraul> I would have set it to r/o a long time ago, just checking now since I keep cleaning the qi wiki but need to be careful there
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2012-10-31 08:45 <pabs3> afaik he is the only one with access to the servers, not sure if mediawiki or the openmoko wiki has admin users that can do that
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2012-10-31 08:46 <roh> pabs3: i can surely give you access if you want to help
2012-10-31 08:50 <pabs3> hmm. I volunteered for that a bunch of months ago but Harald wanted to clean up some private stuff before giving me access, don't think anything happened with that yet
2012-10-31 08:53 <roh> may be.. but for the wiki for example that should be no issue i guesss
2012-10-31 08:54 <pabs3> maybe see what Harald says first
2012-10-31 08:57 <roh> he has enough on his plate and surely doesnt care if someone cleans up the wiki ;)
2012-10-31 08:57 <roh> i'll tell him next time i meet him
2012-10-31 08:57 <roh> whats your username in the wiki?
2012-10-31 08:57 <pabs3> PaulWise
2012-10-31 08:59 <pabs3> to be clear, I was volunteering for sysadmin stuff: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-May/067003.html
2012-10-31 09:01 * pabs3 bbiab
2012-10-31 09:01 <roh> aaha.. ok.
2012-10-31 09:01 <roh> i'll just give you some wiki priv's for now
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2012-10-31 09:04 <roh> pabs3: gave you admin and buerocrat perms.
2012-10-31 09:04 <roh> so you can block spammers at least
2012-10-31 09:08 <wolfspraul> won't work as the bots create new accounts automatically
2012-10-31 09:09 <wolfspraul> even generously blocking ip ranges won't work since they probably sit on botnets or other variable ips
2012-10-31 09:10 <wolfspraul> the only thing that would work is to upgrade the captcha to the very latest-gen, or block all edits wiki-wide, or (haven't tried that yet) block the creation of new accounts
2012-10-31 09:13 <lindi-> wolfspraul: or require users to type their openmoko mac address :))
2012-10-31 09:21 <pabs3> yeah, for the Debian wiki, recaptcha worked well but some folks complained so we had to implement a bunch of other stuff
2012-10-31 09:22 * pabs3 wonders if reverting to an older copy of the database with less spam would be best
2012-10-31 09:23 <roh> i need to run... if there's nothing happening, holler me
2012-10-31 10:27 * pabs3 gives up on blocking the spammers, they register as fast as I can block them
2012-10-31 10:42 <pabs3> huh, even getting upload spam: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:NewFiles
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2012-10-31 12:17 <paul_boddie> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam has a few solutions for spam, although I've never had to configure MediaWiki for this kind of thing.
2012-10-31 12:31 <pabs3> thanks
2012-10-31 12:32 <paul_boddie> I guess you're used to configuring MoinMoin for this kind of thing?
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2012-10-31 14:12 <whitequark> this fucking country can't even make a decent electric stove
2012-10-31 14:12 <whitequark> the moment I turned it on, something inside died and it became perma-on and tripped the circuit breaker.
2012-10-31 14:12 <whitequark> fuck.
2012-10-31 14:13 <whitequark> I'm so glad I had that breaker in the first place. the previous flat I've rented did not.
2012-10-31 14:16 <roh> you live somewhere weird
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2012-10-31 14:20 <whitequark> roh: russia
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2012-10-31 14:21 <whitequark> I'm not terribly surprised that this happened, to be sincere. just annoyed.
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2012-10-31 14:28 <whitequark> me: "it's big, heavy and there's some crap inside" friend: "that's called "done according to Soviet spirit!". indeed.
2012-10-31 14:29 <whitequark> now I face a choice of either: 1) calling a professional and paying >$300 upfront, which I don't have atm 2) calling a... state-funded technician, who'll probably be drunk and not very qualified.
2012-10-31 14:30 <whitequark> 3) fixing it myself, during which I'd probably injure myself with some really big, heavy and not properly fixed part of it.
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2012-10-31 14:53 * lekernel has had funny experiences attempting to fix soviet stuff
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2012-10-31 15:03 <paul_boddie> I once lived somewhere that had a Soviet fridge.
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2012-10-31 15:13 <wpwrak> siberia ?
2012-10-31 15:16 <viric> did east germany have soviet fridges?
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2012-10-31 15:36 <paul_boddie> A previous apartment in Norway. There was a fridge from a company called Elektra that said "Made in the U.S.S.R." on the back.
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2012-10-31 15:41 <lekernel> as far as I can tell east germany manufactured a lot of stuff locally
2012-10-31 15:41 <viric> yes, I also heard so
2012-10-31 15:42 <viric> until the unification, where there was a conflict of interest between the east factories, and the lobbying west companies
2012-10-31 15:42 <viric> no?
2012-10-31 15:43 <lekernel> it seems a bunch of eastern companies went bankrupt as everyone wanted to buy western stuff instead
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2012-10-31 15:44 <lekernel> former east germany is full of abandoned factories, which are sometimes nice to visit, but often vandalized heavily
2012-10-31 15:49 <paul_boddie> Wasn't there a famous East German motorcycle manufacturer that was able to survive post-reunification due to its cult reputation or am I mixing up stories?
2012-10-31 15:51 <lekernel> this one? http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090106-16577.html
2012-10-31 15:52 <paul_boddie> Probably. Oh well!
2012-10-31 15:58 <lekernel> east germany also has an impressive number of abandoned russian military barracks, which are nice places to see soviet propaganda (frescos, sculptures etc.) uncurated
2012-10-31 15:58 <lekernel> though (around Berlin at least) they are disappearing fast to make room for apartments
2012-10-31 15:58 <viric> lekernel: I watched recently 'Catastroika', and it explained the bankrupcies with a more 'planned' point of view
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2012-10-31 20:30 <wpwrak> viric: sigh, the wikipedia article on their previous work "debtocracy" is sad. " The term is coined from the words "χρέος" (debt) and the Greek "κράτος" (power, -ocracy)". c'mon ...
2012-10-31 20:31 <wpwrak> then they give the examples "in a similar manner of other words regarding forms of government (such as democracy, aristocracy, theocracy etc.)."
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2012-10-31 20:49 <lekernel> a lot of activist stuff those days is sad for similar reasons
2012-10-31 20:55 <viric> hm I'm not following
2012-10-31 20:56 <viric> what makes you feel sad?
2012-10-31 20:57 <viric> did you want a better naming?
2012-10-31 20:57 <viric> or you dislike how the wikipedia article worded that?
2012-10-31 21:03 <wpwrak> what makes me sad is that the authors of the article don't understand the structure of the language. there is no "-ocracy". it's "-cracy". the "o" comes from the first word, aristOs, demOs, theOs.
2012-10-31 21:04 <viric> Ah, the article then. ok
2012-10-31 21:04 <viric> fix it
2012-10-31 21:04 <viric> :)
2012-10-31 21:04 <wpwrak> phew :)
2012-10-31 21:05 <viric> that's sad too ;)
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