2012-10-29 00:22 panda has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 00:22 panda is now known as Guest35180 2012-10-29 00:25 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-10-29 00:28 kristianpaul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-10-29 00:29 kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 00:29 kristianpaul has quit [Changing host] 2012-10-29 00:29 kristianpaul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 00:38 emeb has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware] 2012-10-29 01:16 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 02:33 acrylic is not much more brittle than FR4 2012-10-29 02:34 and i'd not want to eat anything that had thorough contact to any such resin based material 2012-10-29 02:35 rather use FR4 with copper coating ;-) 2012-10-29 02:35 even silver or gold galvanized 2012-10-29 02:35 wolfspra1l has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-10-29 02:36 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 02:40 the critter needs milling, so the copper would only cover part of the surface. and i think i'll save learning how to properly galvanize things for another lifetime ;-) i know the basics are simple, but ... 2012-10-29 04:04 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2012-10-29 04:04 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 05:06 guanucoluis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-10-29 07:02 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 07:35 LunaVorax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-10-29 08:17 roh: I'd disagree with "20% software", unless you're making an unique device for geeks. that's one of the reasons all attempts at more open smartphones have failed, IMO. 2012-10-29 08:17 wolfspraul: I have a few openvpn-specific questions which you might be able to answer 2012-10-29 08:27 wpwrak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-10-29 08:34 jluis|work has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 08:59 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2012-10-29 09:07 please by all means just ask :-) 2012-10-29 09:07 in the end we have 10 messages back and forth for me to say "don't know" :-) 2012-10-29 09:15 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 09:17 * xiangfu success transfer the pcb design from photo paper to PCB. but I have problem to complete remove the photo paper 2012-10-29 09:19 then you either 1) applied too much heat, 2) didn't clean the paper enough, 3) cleaned the paper too much, or 4) the paper is not suitable for tuner transfer. 2012-10-29 09:21 cleaning the paper: there's usually some stuff on the surface that can help or make things worse. before printing, you should clean the paper surface with alcohol. the more alcohol you use and the longer you let it soak in, the more of that surface goo is removed. 2012-10-29 09:21 you gently wipe off the alcohol and the dissolved goo with a paper towel. then let the paper dry for a good while (1/2 h or such) 2012-10-29 09:29 wpwrak, I didn't clean the paper before use. 2012-10-29 09:33 lekernel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-10-29 09:33 lekernel has joined #qi-hardware 2012-10-29 09:37 wpwrak: hm. food.. use stainless steelß 2012-10-29 09:42 whitequark: you missed the important point. 40% production complication includes all kinds of fail conditions. that includes software 2012-10-29 09:42 hacking something is easy. making it work in an automated production process for thousands of times without manual intervention. thats hard. 2012-10-29 09:43 roh: i can't machine steel 2012-10-29 09:43 that is, not without mixing it with something soft first. lead or such :) 2012-10-29 09:52 mmmh.... 2012-10-29 09:54 xiangfu: (clean) then i'd suggest to try very gentle cleaning. spray alcohol on it, then wipe it off immediately. don't apply too much force - it's just to remove the alcohol and whatever it has dissolved. 2012-10-29 09:55 wpwrak: fr4 can be really sharp when ground down.. but as long as there is mad-max scenario i'd advice against using it as kitchen tools 2012-10-29 09:56 mad-max scenario = civilization as we know it collapses ? 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