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2012-09-30 02:58 <kristianpaul> damn not confuse slice with clb because.. http://web.sdu.dk/jjm/MMMI/Logic/PLDs/Spartan_6/Spartan6.htm
2012-09-30 02:58 <kristianpaul> :)
2012-09-30 02:58 <kristianpaul> lekernel: there is a fpga dictionary somewhere? :)
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2012-09-30 05:22 <kristianpaul> but slices are  m x l... http://eetimes.com/design/programmable-logic/4015237/Xilinx-Spartan-6-FPGA-User-Guide-Lite?pageNumber=1
2012-09-30 05:22 <kristianpaul> a lot to read :)
2012-09-30 05:22 <kristianpaul> not a common place
2012-09-30 05:33 <DocScrutinizer05> fun with sftp
2012-09-30 05:33 <DocScrutinizer05> quite nasty bug in my KDE(?)
2012-09-30 05:33 <DocScrutinizer05> drove me nuts last 5h
2012-09-30 05:34 <kristianpaul> time out? reverse dns issues? not proer hello?
2012-09-30 05:34 <kristianpaul> n8 !
2012-09-30 05:34 <DocScrutinizer05> if you wanna reproduce it: `mv ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub $elsewhere`
2012-09-30 05:35 <DocScrutinizer05> the check ssh working fine
2012-09-30 05:35 <DocScrutinizer05> sftp://user@host  working fine in konqueror and dolphin
2012-09-30 05:35 <DocScrutinizer05> but only once ;-P
2012-09-30 05:36 <DocScrutinizer05> then* check...*
2012-09-30 05:37 <DocScrutinizer05> here the sftp:// in filemanager magically creates a new id_dsa.pub, and even worse: a crippled one
2012-09-30 05:38 <DocScrutinizer05> and while everything works fine wothout any id_dsa.pub, everything starts blowing chunks with that crippled trunkated crap (only 1023 bytes instead of original 1115)
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2012-09-30 13:23 <kristianpaul> DocScrutinizer05: good reason to stick on a terminal emulator :)
2012-09-30 13:23 <DocScrutinizer05> kristianpaul: meh
2012-09-30 13:23 <kristianpaul> but i admit i like file managers (at least the one from xfce) to visualize more quickly photos and documents
2012-09-30 13:24 <DocScrutinizer05> kristianpaul: I just wonder what friggin process thinks it needs to restore that file
2012-09-30 13:24 <kristianpaul> the fu require to make feh to dad is not much confortable to remenber...
2012-09-30 13:24 <DocScrutinizer05> and even does that in such a borked manner
2012-09-30 13:24 <kristianpaul> DocScrutinizer05: yes thats a nice bug :)
2012-09-30 13:24 <whitequark> for some reason, every single one person I met who knows what mc is, hates me for using mc.
2012-09-30 13:24 <whitequark> not sure why
2012-09-30 13:25 <DocScrutinizer05> I love you for using mc :-D
2012-09-30 13:25 <DocScrutinizer05> actually it's the fallback of my choice, when sftp:// URL in filemanager doesn't work
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2012-09-30 13:26 * DocScrutinizer05 blames KDE kio foo for doing that id_dsa.pub madness
2012-09-30 13:27 <whitequark> heh
2012-09-30 13:27 <DocScrutinizer05> would any of you, by any incidence, know about how id_dsa.pub is meant to get used/needed my ssh* ?
2012-09-30 13:28 <DocScrutinizer05> s/my/by/
2012-09-30 13:28 <qi-bot> DocScrutinizer05 meant: "would any of you, by any incidence, know about how id_dsa.pub is meant to get used/needed by ssh* ?"
2012-09-30 13:29 <DocScrutinizer05> the most funny part is that everything works just fine without that file even existing
2012-09-30 13:29 <whitequark> no clue, I always used RSA keys in SSH
2012-09-30 13:29 <DocScrutinizer05> but some idiot process thinks it has to be there for unknown reasons, and thus creates it, though broken/trunkated
2012-09-30 13:30 <whitequark> maybe just with fewer bits
2012-09-30 13:30 <DocScrutinizer05> 1023 vs 1115
2012-09-30 13:30 <DocScrutinizer05> 1024 sounds like a bug
2012-09-30 13:30 <DocScrutinizer05> 1023 like bug--
2012-09-30 13:31 <whitequark> it doesn't for me
2012-09-30 13:31 <whitequark> the keys are base64'd
2012-09-30 13:31 <whitequark> and have prologue/epilogue
2012-09-30 13:31 <DocScrutinizer05> if you want to do me a favour: rename *.pub in your ~/.ssh to something else, and check if everything still works
2012-09-30 13:32 <whitequark> define "everything"? I'm using dolphin as my file manager, is that fine?
2012-09-30 13:32 <DocScrutinizer05> ssh outbound, sftp outbound
2012-09-30 13:32 <DocScrutinizer05> yep, pretty fine
2012-09-30 13:32 <DocScrutinizer05> sftp://user@host
2012-09-30 13:33 <viric> do you use an agent?
2012-09-30 13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> creates new *.pub file for me
2012-09-30 13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> viric: please elaborate
2012-09-30 13:33 <viric> ssh-agent
2012-09-30 13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> prolly not
2012-09-30 13:33 <viric> ps ax | grep agent
2012-09-30 13:33 <viric> :)
2012-09-30 13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> how would I check?
2012-09-30 13:33 <DocScrutinizer05> k
2012-09-30 13:33 <viric> some .xsession start agents
2012-09-30 13:34 <DocScrutinizer05>  3023 ?        Ss     0:03 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
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2012-09-30 13:34 <viric> ok
2012-09-30 13:34 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer05: yeah, pretty certainly
2012-09-30 13:34 <whitequark> also I do use an agent
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2012-09-30 13:34 <viric> then that same script may be running 'ssh-add' to add keys to the agent.
2012-09-30 13:34 <DocScrutinizer05>  3022 ?        Ss     0:25 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --sh --daemon --write-env-file /home/jr/.gnupg/agent.info /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
2012-09-30 13:34 <viric> and the keys being created if non existant.
2012-09-30 13:35 <viric> Modify your agent-calling scripts not to create the keys you don't want.
2012-09-30 13:35 <DocScrutinizer05> viric: 1000 thanks
2012-09-30 13:35 <viric> And whether you're required a dsa key or a rsa key, it depends on what public key you put in remote hosts.
2012-09-30 13:35 <viric> If you put the dsa public key in remote hosts, then you'll need the dsa pair.
2012-09-30 13:35 <viric> you are welcome
2012-09-30 13:36 <DocScrutinizer05> the fun bit is: the generated id_dsa.pub is the original one, just truncated
2012-09-30 13:36 <viric> you've to check those who prepared your session start scripts, what they do and why
2012-09-30 13:36 <DocScrutinizer05> only source I could imagine is far end's allowed_keys
2012-09-30 13:37 <whitequark> authorized_keys
2012-09-30 13:37 <whitequark> probably
2012-09-30 13:37 <DocScrutinizer05> err yes
2012-09-30 13:37 <whitequark> I've no idea how the new id_dsa.pub can ever be like original one
2012-09-30 13:37 <DocScrutinizer05> is this weird? or is this WEIRD
2012-09-30 13:37 <viric> well, I think that the private part contains a keypair.
2012-09-30 13:37 <whitequark> this should not happen AT ALL
2012-09-30 13:38 <viric> but I'm not sure.
2012-09-30 13:38 <DocScrutinizer05> maybe, yeah
2012-09-30 13:38 <whitequark> viric: it does for RSA keys
2012-09-30 13:38 <DocScrutinizer05> thanks for all the feedback and help, have to enjoy a few minutes of ~rl
2012-09-30 13:39 <DocScrutinizer05> ~rl
2012-09-30 13:39 <infobot> it has been said that rl is Real Life (the bad world out there), or known as the Big Blue Box (tm).  Conways game using only rational numbers
2012-09-30 13:39 <viric> sqrt(2) can take part in real life, not only rationals.
2012-09-30 13:39 <DocScrutinizer05> if you got anything to add, I'll read backscroll when i'm back
2012-09-30 13:40 <viric> Real life goes much further than rationality.
2012-09-30 14:15 <whitequark> Real life goes even further than abolishing the rationality altogether; it can be said that it extends far beyond the very concept of rationality, leaving the distinction behind as simplistic.
2012-09-30 14:16 <whitequark> (if that's what you meant by "adding something"...)
2012-09-30 14:19 <viric> :)
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2012-09-30 18:24 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: how was the earthquake ?
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2012-09-30 19:17 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: not bad
2012-09-30 19:17 <kristianpaul> i was out of city, actually rural area
2012-09-30 19:18 <kristianpaul> was 11:30 so... then i get out of the house
2012-09-30 19:18 <kristianpaul> wait like one minute then back :)
2012-09-30 19:18 <kristianpaul> you?
2012-09-30 19:19 <kristianpaul> ah wait epicenter was in north choco
2012-09-30 19:20 <kristianpaul> this was a replica, the first one was today 4:30 am and 4.2 magnitude
2012-09-30 19:20 <kristianpaul> ah wait
2012-09-30 19:20 <kristianpaul> omg
2012-09-30 19:20 * kristianpaul reading the news
2012-09-30 19:23 <kristianpaul> i dint felt like 7.3 to me
2012-09-30 19:24 <kristianpaul> pehaps becuse was not in the town/town
2012-09-30 19:25 <kristianpaul> ha http://paste.debian.net/194712/
2012-09-30 19:25 <kristianpaul> well back to apartement all seems fine..
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2012-09-30 21:51 <viric> kristianpaul: the media I use to read does not cover that earthquake :)
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