2012-09-14 00:15 dandon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-09-14 00:31 Jurting has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-09-14 00:50 guanucoluis1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-09-14 00:51 LunaVorax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-09-14 00:57 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 00:57 urandom_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2012-09-14 01:29 newcup has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-09-14 02:01 so, how does "qualcomm" (http://maps.google.de/maps?oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=qualcomm&fb=1&gl=de&hq=qualcomm&hnear=0x479f57aeb5b61cd3:0xdd5daf85a98c21b7,N%C3%BCrnberg&cid=0,0,7383782245350231276&sa=X&ei=tI9SUIrZMMel4gSvtIE4&ved=0CJ8CEPwSMAA) sound to you, for my new job? 2012-09-14 02:01 nikescar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-09-14 02:02 nikescar has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 02:04 wpwrak: how's your hayfever? 2012-09-14 02:12 guanucoluis1 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 02:22 DocScrutinizer05: you work for qualcomm now? 2012-09-14 02:22 maybe next one, yes 2012-09-14 02:22 nice! 2012-09-14 02:22 hope this works out for you 2012-09-14 02:23 that's why I ask ;-) 2012-09-14 02:23 I'm not sure I like qualcomm 2012-09-14 02:24 otoh who says you need to like your job, or even your employer** 2012-09-14 02:24 (** double deref) 2012-09-14 02:26 funny detail: it's so close to STE http://maps.google.de/maps?num=30&hl=de&newwindow=1&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=st-ericsson&fb=1&gl=de&hq=st-ericsson&hnear=0x479f57aeb5b61cd3:0xdd5daf85a98c21b7,N%C3%BCrnberg&cid=0,0,7050262622794191287&sa=X&ei=uZVSUK-aHqvZ4QSynICgAQ&ved=0CLkCEPwSMAM that I probably will meet my ex-colleagues in restaurant during lunch 2012-09-14 02:28 I agree that you don't need to like your job or employer, but... at the very least there does need to be cultural 'compatibility', whatever that means :-) 2012-09-14 02:28 if the company culture is a bunch of assholes raping the world, then you better have that same culture, and you will do well. equally for any other culture. 2012-09-14 02:28 actually that's another reason i'm not entirely happy with the perspective: there are realy few shops and restaurants in this whole area 2012-09-14 02:29 I don't know the qualcomm company culture, but culture compatibility is something you should check, for everybodys happiness... 2012-09-14 02:29 the few qc people I met were all very professional and serious, I liked them 2012-09-14 02:30 aiui my potentially new job would be more hw-centric :-D 2012-09-14 02:30 qc has also recently been restructuring their open source efforts 2012-09-14 02:31 don't know the thinking behind that though 2012-09-14 02:31 ooh, they have a thing like opens source efforts? 2012-09-14 02:31 definitely, and they are restructuring it 2012-09-14 02:32 I *guess* they want to separate a little better from their IP businesses so that they can protect that IP better, and at the same time can invest in anything 'open' better 2012-09-14 02:32 but you need to talk with them, maybe you are soon one of them :-) 2012-09-14 02:32 then you can explain to us! 2012-09-14 02:32 :-) 2012-09-14 02:35 thanks for the tips! 2012-09-14 02:37 gotta run too 2012-09-14 02:37 how can you be up at 4.30 btw? :-) 2012-09-14 02:37 k l8... 2012-09-14 02:37 I'm still vacant 2012-09-14 02:38 my pimp threated me to call yesterday, to tell me about possible meeting at qualcomm on monday, but he didn't 2012-09-14 02:38 threatened? 2012-09-14 02:39 yeah 2012-09-14 02:40 so otoh he "forced" me to take my remaining holiday for this year, which ends today 2012-09-14 02:40 rather, yeaterday 2012-09-14 02:56 guanucoluis1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-09-14 03:06 emeb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2012-09-14 03:28 qualcomm ? heart of evil ? :) 2012-09-14 03:29 (at the company level no idea how the people are) 2012-09-14 03:30 (open effort) now that sounds like a departure from the past. if it's true, maybe they won't be 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that's almost an exact copy of the 4740 driver 2012-09-14 14:59 currently anyway: it doesn't work yet, so I'll probably have to add some more differences 2012-09-14 15:04 aisa has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 15:18 heberth has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-09-14 15:28 mth: my plan is to add a IIO ADC driver for the jz4740 ADC and then eventually switch to the generic IIO battery driver (which currently is in development). 2012-09-14 15:29 a sane strategy would probably to do the same for the jz4770 2012-09-14 15:31 the most dangerous command is "uptime". as soon as i run it, it doesn't take long till something happens to my server 2012-09-14 15:47 rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2012-09-14 16:00 porchao has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 2012-09-14 16:04 porchao has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 16:09 why does svn suck so much? Just found out that you can't set global ignores, but rather have to specify them for each directory... 2012-09-14 16:12 emeb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 16:20 heberth has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 16:30 kristoffer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 16:56 GNUtoo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 16:58 larsc: svn works by directory :) 2012-09-14 17:07 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 17:09 hm, that might be a point 2012-09-14 17:09 but I still don't like it 2012-09-14 17:09 pabs3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-09-14 17:11 pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 17:12 larsc: ping 2012-09-14 17:13 did you remember about the INI library? :) 2012-09-14 17:13 no 2012-09-14 17:13 but I'm still at work 2012-09-14 17:14 [] (btrfs_num_copies+0xe8/0xf4 [btrfs]) from [] 2012-09-14 17:14 what is 0xe8 and 0xf4? 2012-09-14 17:15 one should be the offset since the function entry point 2012-09-14 17:18 the other is the size of the function 2012-09-14 17:19 Ayla: So far I could find out that the header file is called ini.h 2012-09-14 17:19 ah 0xf4 is the size? nice. 2012-09-14 17:19 thank you 2012-09-14 17:22 Ayla: but that's all I can find for the moment 2012-09-14 17:22 OK 2012-09-14 17:27 more on monday. the person that's using it isn't in the office right now 2012-09-14 17:43 pabs3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-09-14 17:44 pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 17:56 I won't wait that long ;) 2012-09-14 17:59 Jay7 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2012-09-14 18:04 mth: Can I mention to sjhill that you are working on jz4770 support? 2012-09-14 18:12 sjhill has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 18:13 hmm 2012-09-14 18:13 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 18:13 hi sjhill 2012-09-14 18:13 larsc -> Lars-Peter Clausen 2012-09-14 18:13 hi 2012-09-14 18:13 yes 2012-09-14 18:13 mth -> Maarten ter Huurne 2012-09-14 18:13 yes 2012-09-14 18:13 and.... 2012-09-14 18:13 i have not idea where Thierry and Antony are 2012-09-14 18:14 thierry acutally has nothing to do with jz47xx, he just brought over the pwm driver to the generic pwm framework since he is the pwm maintainer 2012-09-14 18:14 ah 2012-09-14 18:14 so i won't include him on future emails 2012-09-14 18:14 and to be honest i don't know who Antony is 2012-09-14 18:15 lol 2012-09-14 18:15 you're doing a PWM driver for jz4770? 2012-09-14 18:15 no 2012-09-14 18:16 sjhill: is working on jz4760 support 2012-09-14 18:16 ah. 2012-09-14 18:18 larsc: how did you get a lepus board? 2012-09-14 18:20 was a bit of a coincidence, I did a bit of contract work for somebody who wanted to sell a jz4760 based board 2012-09-14 18:21 i'll have to talk to my colleagues at MIPS and email my one contact at Ingenic 2012-09-14 18:21 maybe i'll get lucky 2012-09-14 18:21 bbiab....lunch 2012-09-14 18:50 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-09-14 18:50 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 19:06 Ayla has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-09-14 19:29 Jay7 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 19:48 heberth has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-09-14 19:58 heberth has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 20:09 scientes has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 20:09 LunaVorax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-09-14 20:10 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 20:20 heberth has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-09-14 20:22 mh what's that kernel config option, to have a populated /dev mounted before running init? 2012-09-14 20:22 (when rootfs doesn't have it) 2012-09-14 20:47 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 20:56 scientes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-09-14 20:57 viric: what version kernel? 2012-09-14 20:58 I looked for it in 3.5.3 2012-09-14 20:58 I recall it's about DEVFS something 2012-09-14 20:58 but F8 in nconfig does not show me any DEVFS thing 2012-09-14 20:59 guanucoluis1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-09-14 21:00 DEVTMPFS 2012-09-14 21:00 ahh 2012-09-14 21:00 scientes has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 21:01 damn. It's inside device drivers, not filesystems. 2012-09-14 21:01 thx larsc 2012-09-14 21:03 qwebirc77879 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 21:03 qwebirc77879 is now known as rjeffries 2012-09-14 21:04 Since several people use KiCad -- http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/09/14/dangerous-prototypes-kicad-eda-experience/ 2012-09-14 21:12 I hate when I fail to get 'init' running. 2012-09-14 21:12 VFS: Mounted root (btrfs filesystem) readonly on device 0:11. 2012-09-14 21:12 devtmpfs: mounted 2012-09-14 21:12 Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000004 2012-09-14 21:13 (it's a statically linked 'sh', init) 2012-09-14 21:13 signal 4... SIGILL... illegal instruction. damn. 2012-09-14 21:29 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-09-14 21:29 kristoffer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-09-14 21:33 rjeffries has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-09-14 22:09 scientes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-09-14 22:29 GNUtoo has quit [Quit: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.] 2012-09-14 22:36 xdpirate has quit [Quit: http://gamelauncher.pvpsucks.com/] 2012-09-14 22:38 hi sjhill 2012-09-14 22:40 sjhill: this is the JZ4770 device that Ayla and I are working on: http://game-consoles-worldwide.com/?page_id=15 2012-09-14 22:42 larsc: Antony is doing an OpenDingux port for the Ritmix (Russian) game console (JZ4755) 2012-09-14 22:44 sjhill: Ayla has done a fair bit of kernel for for the 4740 as well, for example the watchdog driver was written by him 2012-09-14 22:44 s/kernel for/kernel work/ 2012-09-14 22:44 mth meant: "sjhill: Ayla has done a fair bit of kernel work for the 4740 as well, for example the watchdog driver was written by him" 2012-09-14 22:53 scientes has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 22:58 mth: cool 2012-09-14 22:59 So, who's going to send me one of those game consoles? :) 2012-09-14 23:00 $120US 2012-09-14 23:01 I'll buy one, if there are any left. 2012-09-14 23:01 there are 2012-09-14 23:01 if you're up to do some kernel work, you could ask for a prototype 2012-09-14 23:04 LunaVorax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-09-14 23:05 Sure. 2012-09-14 23:05 Who do I ask for a prototype? 2012-09-14 23:13 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 23:29 guanucoluis1 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 23:33 guanucoluis1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-09-14 23:40 guanucoluis1 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 23:45 hmm. i have small and fixed number of variables. from these, i want to determine the median value. i could sort the variables and pick the value in the middle, but that's quite inefficient. a more efficient approach is to directly search for the median value. 2012-09-14 23:46 GCW2012 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-09-14 23:46 i've solved this manually for three variables. doing it for five smells like messy work. i wonder if there's an algorithm for this somewhere ? 2012-09-14 23:47 this is a solution for three variables: http://pastebin.ca/2204355 2012-09-14 23:50 LunaVorax has quit [Quit: Quitte] 2012-09-14 23:51 is five enough or is that just the next step up from three? 2012-09-14 23:51 it's fun to google for this. there's a thread in a vb basic forum. proves that vb basic is for people who still have a lot to learn ;-) 2012-09-14 23:52 what the fortran folks do looks more interesting ... http://compgroups.net/comp.lang.fortran/find-the-median-value-of-an-array/326962 2012-09-14 23:53 not sure yet. i very much hope it'll be enough. it has to run in a poor little microcontroller crawling at less than one MIPS 2012-09-14 23:53 the number of values is smaller than the range of the values? 2012-09-14 23:55 yes, the range is much larger 2012-09-14 23:57 what you can do, is a limited type of quicksort 2012-09-14 23:58 every quicksort iteration separates the array into a segment where all elements are smaller than X, a segment where all elements are equal to X and a segment where all elements are greater than X 2012-09-14 23:58 hmm, this seems to be the place for the algorithms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_algorithm 2012-09-14 23:58 quicksort is way too expensive 2012-09-14 23:59 if the "equals" segment is in the middle, you're done, otherwise continue to work on the largest remaining segment (the one that contains the middle element)