2012-07-23 00:02 <wpwrak> lindi-: naw, still in .ar :) but i've been to .fi a few times
2012-07-23 00:03 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: pity. now that you've been sensitized to the risk of technological failure, you'll never get that job of nuclear power plant operator
2012-07-23 00:08 <kristianpaul> ha
2012-07-23 00:08 <kristianpaul> i'm looking forward revenge next week, this time will be just gliding :)
2012-07-23 00:11 <kristianpaul> i tought a power plant operator was more a software job, and you just watched it made correctly
2012-07-23 00:21 <wpwrak> i think it mainly consists of following procedure and denying any fear :)
2012-07-23 00:22 <kristianpaul> lol
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2012-07-23 01:32 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: i read that it's wetness appreciation season in beijing ?
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2012-07-23 01:47 <wolfspraul> yes yes
2012-07-23 01:48 <wolfspraul> but you can also tell there are more media in Beijing nowadays
2012-07-23 01:48 <wolfspraul> when I lived in New York, every time there was a little rain my mom would be worried because of the sensationalist news over that, all the way to Germany...
2012-07-23 01:48 <wolfspraul> thanks to the extremely strong media scene in NY
2012-07-23 01:48 <wolfspraul> and this is following me here now? urgh!
2012-07-23 01:49 <wolfspraul> but yeah, we had nice rain the other day, and I could go running in the rain which I love :-)
2012-07-23 01:49 <wolfspraul> and the rain washed the air, so bright blue sky today!
2012-07-23 01:49 <wolfspraul> even better
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2012-07-23 01:53 <wpwrak> ;-))
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2012-07-23 01:55 <wpwrak> and all the neighbours living at ground level will watch your happy rain runs with hatred only millennia of cultural conditioning  allow them to hide, while the water sloshes around their knees :)
2012-07-23 01:56 <wpwrak> but since you;re in a good mood and feeling invigorated ... how about making a little link shortener for project.qi-hardware.com ? :)
2012-07-23 01:57 <wpwrak> e.g., you still have qi-hw.com but i think you never used it. so that would already be 6 characters less.
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2012-07-23 01:58 <wpwrak> it would also help downloads.qi-hardware.com. maybe even add an alias "dl.qi-hw.com" while you're at it ?
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2012-07-23 01:59 <wpwrak> then, for projects ... i don't know if apache has URL rewriting. if it does, how about p/PROJ/PATH -> index.php/p/PROJ/source/tree/master/PATH ?
2012-07-23 01:59 <wpwrak> (or similar)
2012-07-23 02:00 <wpwrak> that would save ... some 28 characters if i counted right
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2012-07-23 02:10 <wolfspraul> you didn't see my url?
2012-07-23 02:10 <wolfspraul> qi-hw.com/p/...
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2012-07-23 02:16 <wpwrak> oh .. interesting. experimenting ...
2012-07-23 02:19 <wpwrak> so the rule is  qi-hw.com/p/X -> projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/X   ?
2012-07-23 02:35 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: did i guess right ?
2012-07-23 02:38 <wolfspraul> yes I think so
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2012-07-23 03:31 <wpwrak> (mapping) excellent, thanks a lot !
2012-07-23 03:39 <wpwrak> though i wish i could get rid of the source/tree/master as well. the URLs are still pretty long, particularlt for slides
2012-07-23 03:40 <wpwrak> hmm. and qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/source/tree/master/dsv/ sends me to http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/eda-tools/source/tree/master/
2012-07-23 03:41 <wpwrak> not .../master/dsv/
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2012-07-23 05:55 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: any chance to fix this ?
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2012-07-23 06:01 <wolfspraul> any fix would probably include removing Indefero entirely and switching to a more lightweight web interface
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2012-07-23 07:37 <roh> morgaehn
2012-07-23 07:48 <wolfspraul> morsche
2012-07-23 07:49 <wolfspraul> and no, it's not a variation on Porsche... - it's saarlaendisch
2012-07-23 07:50 <pang> i used to own a car from saarland
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2012-07-23 08:04 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: hm. no way to do the rewriting in the web server ? some simple regexps should be enough
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2012-07-23 12:23 * xiangfu finish my first QFP 144 soldering.
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2012-07-23 12:26 <wolfspraul> xiangfu: wow, nice
2012-07-23 12:27 <xiangfu> wolfspraul, I buy some stuff from zgc. the 'liquid flux' help a lot.
2012-07-23 12:27 <wolfspraul> ok
2012-07-23 12:28 <xiangfu> the first try make a loooot of pins short.  then I watch some soldering video. buy some liquid flux.
2012-07-23 12:30 <wolfspraul> sure, sounds good
2012-07-23 12:30 <wolfspraul> without any flux that will not work for sure
2012-07-23 12:31 <xiangfu> I bought some PCB from taobao.com, after soldering it's looks like: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/xiangfu/tmp/IMG_0609.JPG
2012-07-23 12:33 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: is the URL rewriting done in indefero or in apache ?
2012-07-23 12:33 <wolfspraul> in apache, but when I take down indefero it's just more work to try to keep the old urls working
2012-07-23 12:34 <wolfspraul> xiangfu: oh nice idea, to use a premade qfp144 pcb?
2012-07-23 12:34 <xiangfu> yes. premake qfq144
2012-07-23 12:34 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: shouldn't be a big difference. in fact, what i proposed would mask more of indefero's internal structure
2012-07-23 12:35 <wolfspraul> I'm not going to do it
2012-07-23 12:35 <wolfspraul> :-)
2012-07-23 12:35 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: just keep the project name and the path inside the project as user-visible components
2012-07-23 12:35 <wolfspraul> that simple
2012-07-23 12:35 <wolfspraul> I rather explain here for half an hour why not
2012-07-23 12:35 <wpwrak> very helpful :-(
2012-07-23 12:35 <xiangfu> I start my little project here: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/mini-slx9/source/tree/master/kicad
2012-07-23 12:35 <wolfspraul> what I do work on right now is a move of the server to a new machine, with a lot of improvements like better backup, larger disks, ipv6, etc. etc.
2012-07-23 12:36 <xiangfu> a very very simple board with slx9. even simple then azonenberg-devboards. :)
2012-07-23 12:36 <wolfspraul> then I need to reduce maintenance effort by removing some rarely used stuff
2012-07-23 12:36 <wolfspraul> not very helpful but I try to get the expectations right, fully right
2012-07-23 12:36 <wolfspraul> whether the URL is this or that way is also largely irrelevant and cosmetic
2012-07-23 12:36 <wolfspraul> imho, of course
2012-07-23 12:37 <wpwrak> the problem is communicating URLs when you don't have copy & paste
2012-07-23 12:37 <wolfspraul> I must have several thousand more pressing items in my mind ;-)
2012-07-23 12:37 <wolfspraul> I understand
2012-07-23 12:37 <wolfspraul> in general I think I will move away from indefero, and towards lighter and simpler tools which hopefully also have simpler urls
2012-07-23 12:37 <wpwrak> like in a presentation. it's nice if people can take the URL they see in front of their nose, type it in, and it works
2012-07-23 12:37 <wolfspraul> most everybody would use a url shorterner for that and done
2012-07-23 12:38 <wolfspraul> which you of course don't want to do because it's ... ugly :-)
2012-07-23 12:38 <wpwrak> and the problem is exactly the same whether you use indefero, github, or a static server
2012-07-23 12:38 <wolfspraul> yes but I won't work on this url improvement now
2012-07-23 12:38 <wolfspraul> I think you have root access to the server as well, as do many others
2012-07-23 12:39 <wolfspraul> I'm working on a move to a new physical machine because of some hard-to-fix hdd corruptions, and ipv6, and larger disks, and easier/better backups
2012-07-23 12:39 <wpwrak> it has the problem that there's no redundancy in there. you can't tell what bit.ly/7Jg87tg/ means. or whether the name is actually correct. it's all or nothing.
2012-07-23 12:39 <wolfspraul> that's all I can handle on the server side right now
2012-07-23 12:39 <wolfspraul> I'm quite exhausted right now too because I managed to model the first wire in my fpga model :-)
2012-07-23 12:40 <wolfspraul> I'm looking at a total of 1.8 million static wires, and with that one wire I cover about 6000 of them
2012-07-23 12:40 <wolfspraul> only 1.794 million to go
2012-07-23 12:40 <wpwrak> 3000 more nights to go :)
2012-07-23 12:40 <wolfspraul> but I'm happy that I think the overall model works, optimistic here
2012-07-23 12:40 <wpwrak> ah no, only 300. hey, that's just a year. not bad.
2012-07-23 12:41 <wolfspraul> it will be faster
2012-07-23 12:41 <wolfspraul> plus I only model resources I need, and once a good program/model runs, it's not that hard to imagine that it can run faster/more :-)
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2012-07-23 12:50 <wpwrak> hmm. tiny.cc lets one choose the name. that should help.
2012-07-23 12:52 <wolfspraul> there you go
2012-07-23 12:52 <wolfspraul> :-)
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2012-07-23 22:29 <mth> larsc: there is a new kernel config option CONFIG_CROSS_MEMORY_ATTACH
2012-07-23 22:29 <mth> it is enabled by default, but I'm not sure we need it
2012-07-23 22:29 <mth> it adds new syscalls to access another process's memory
2012-07-23 22:29 <mth> (this is about the NanoNote defconfig)
2012-07-23 22:30 <mth> new in 3.5
2012-07-23 22:37 <Ayla> any interesting stuff in 3.5?
2012-07-23 23:02 <mth> zram support was expanded, but I don't know exactly how it impacts us
2012-07-23 23:02 <mth> see "frontswap"
2012-07-23 23:25 <mth> Ayla, larsc, wolfspraul: I just pushed jz-3.5
2012-07-23 23:25 <Ayla> ok
2012-07-23 23:25 <mth> seems to run fine on the A320
2012-07-23 23:47 <wolfspraul> mth: cool, thanks for the heads up