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2012-07-01 06:15 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: fix helper-templates-in-copyright (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/f2cb67a
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2012-07-01 10:06 <viric> what do you think of this 'dumb phone'? http://www.babikenshop.com/two-way-radio-phone-walkie-talkie-intercom-phone-vefone-t900-p-797.html
2012-07-01 10:09 <viric> I always wanted a phone with cb radio
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2012-07-01 10:47 * wpwrak hates nspluginviewer. first time in ages i had a kernel crash.
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2012-07-01 11:27 <viric> what is nspluginviewer?
2012-07-01 11:28 <viric> are you blaming a user space program for a kernel crash ? :)
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2012-07-01 11:33 <wpwrak> well, that flash junk does a lot of weird things. it may have some "dirty" paths that allow it to corrupt things it shouldn't be allowed to corrupt.
2012-07-01 11:34 <wpwrak> e.g., i sometimes get residual windows that just stick in the X11 frame buffer. but only from flash. nothing else has such problems.
2012-07-01 11:37 <viric> hm I never noticed those problems
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2012-07-01 13:16 <LunaVorax> Hello everyone!
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2012-07-01 13:35 <whitequark> wpwrak: I'm pretty sure that your problem isn't nspluginviewer itself, but 3D acceleration which flash uses
2012-07-01 13:35 <whitequark> iow, you have broken graphics drivers, which is more common than not
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2012-07-01 13:41 <wpwrak> it's some chain that begins with flash, which is a useless annoyance to begin with
2012-07-01 13:41 <wpwrak> so i put the blame right at the origin :)
2012-07-01 13:48 <wpwrak> or, paraphrasing Linus, "fuck you flash, fuck you !" :)
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2012-07-01 15:08 <kristianpaul> fish a book http://olpcsf.org/node/61
2012-07-01 15:10 <kristianpaul> sorry no only books
2012-07-01 15:10 <viric> the sheevaplug is a very nice device still
2012-07-01 15:11 <viric> and there are the pixel qi people too... I still want such a nice screen :)
2012-07-01 15:11 <kristianpaul> well i was more interested on the script to fetch media from the archive.org more easilly
2012-07-01 15:12 <viric> :D
2012-07-01 15:12 <kristianpaul> the kindle screen is very interesting too, well whatever is e-ink
2012-07-01 15:12 <kristianpaul> shame kindle fire is no color e-ink ;)
2012-07-01 15:13 <viric> I think most discomfort for reading is not always the screen
2012-07-01 15:14 <kristianpaul> oh no, how you feel the book to
2012-07-01 15:14 <viric> I think that there should be more power to the users for choosing the layout, the types, etc.
2012-07-01 15:14 <kristianpaul> passing pages... bookmarking
2012-07-01 15:15 <viric> I dislike how the CSS on browsers has developed, into a system that makes the web *authors* decide how it will look like, instead of the *readers*.
2012-07-01 15:15 <viric> the whole html idea upside down :)
2012-07-01 15:16 <viric> We rarely see easy tools to tune the spacing, the types used, the thickness, the antialiasing technique, ...
2012-07-01 15:16 <viric> for the reader.
2012-07-01 15:17 <kristianpaul> ah good point
2012-07-01 15:17 <viric> colors...
2012-07-01 15:17 <viric> bg and fg
2012-07-01 15:17 <viric> that matters a lot for me, for a comfortable reading
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2012-07-01 15:18 <viric> Some *authoring* tools have nice devices to set up all that, but with computer-like devices, that power should be given to the readers.
2012-07-01 15:19 <viric> For example, I dislike the so broad use of sans-serif types for texts.
2012-07-01 15:20 <kristianpaul> oh sure
2012-07-01 15:22 <viric> I quite like how I read in my rss reader.
2012-07-01 15:22 <viric> http://vicerveza.homeunix.net/~viric/cgi-bin/offrssdemo/vnavarro
2012-07-01 15:22 <viric> (for example)
2012-07-01 15:22 <viric> I'm often lucky, that few authors use style-overriding tags in their feeds :)
2012-07-01 15:23 <viric> then I can easily make their text look like what I want.
2012-07-01 15:23 <viric> but that's tuned for my usual screen, of course.
2012-07-01 15:23 <viric> (and browser, ...)
2012-07-01 15:24 <kristianpaul> you like banks a lot :)
2012-07-01 15:24 <viric> haha
2012-07-01 15:25 <kristianpaul> you read on wich kind of screen?
2012-07-01 15:25 <viric> that's for firefox in my laptop
2012-07-01 15:25 <kristianpaul> laptop,tablet, desktop, mobile?
2012-07-01 15:25 <viric> For my sony e-ink ereader, I use the 'Plan PDF' option above :)
2012-07-01 15:27 <viric> thank you for your link nevertheless! I like these issues about making reading comfortable
2012-07-01 15:28 <kristianpaul> :-)
2012-07-01 15:28 <viric> but I think there is a lot more field for blaming the software, than the hardware :)
2012-07-01 15:29 <viric> For example, I think that if the user can easily interact with the screen contents, that makes reading difficult ;)
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2012-07-01 15:32 <kristianpaul> diffcult because you want to do more and more.. the got fustrated or the contrary..
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2012-07-01 15:34 <kristianpaul> s/the/then
2012-07-01 15:34 <qi-bot> kristianpaul meant: "diffcult because you want to do more and more.. then got fustrated or then contrary.."
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2012-07-01 19:07 <Ayla> whitequark: hello
2012-07-01 19:08 <Ayla> does jz-boot support the jz4770?
2012-07-01 19:52 <whitequark> Ayla: nfc
2012-07-01 19:52 <whitequark> but probably it won't be hard to fix it if it does not
2012-07-01 19:52 <Ayla> ok, it does not :)
2012-07-01 19:54 <whitequark> you'll need to substitute the secondary bootloader for jz4770's
2012-07-01 19:54 <whitequark> and probably tweak the parameters block
2012-07-01 19:55 <Ayla> I mean it's not even recognized with the -e option
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2012-07-01 20:08 <whitequark> Ayla: maybe USB vendor/device ids are wrong?
2012-07-01 20:09 <Ayla> whitequark: idVendor=a108, idProduct=4770
2012-07-01 20:10 <Ayla> my dingoo has idVendor=601a
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2012-07-01 20:15 <Ayla> ok, I patched it, let's see if it works...
2012-07-01 20:16 <Ayla> yep, it is detected
2012-07-01 20:19 <whitequark> cool
2012-07-01 20:21 <Ayla> where can I find the firmware?
2012-07-01 20:26 <larsc> you have to write it :p
2012-07-01 20:27 <Ayla> ouch.
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2012-07-01 20:43 <Ayla> can't I use the firmware files provided by Ingenic?
2012-07-01 20:43 <larsc> maybe
2012-07-01 20:43 <Ayla> ...
2012-07-01 20:43 <larsc> there's only one way to find it out
2012-07-01 20:44 <Ayla> yeah
2012-07-01 20:44 <Ayla> ask whitequark :)
2012-07-01 20:44 <larsc> hehe
2012-07-01 20:45 <Ayla> I tried to boot with those files, but it didn't work; however that does not mean the files are wrong, as jzboot doesn't really support the jz4770 right now
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2012-07-01 21:13 <whitequark> Ayla: for jz4740 we used the ingenic firmware
2012-07-01 21:14 <Ayla> I tried with the firmware files from ingenic, but it disconnects as soon as I type "boot" or try to set a GPIO
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2012-07-01 22:41 <Ayla> ok, looks like I can load the second firmware
2012-07-01 22:41 <Ayla> that means the SRAM is correctly initialized
2012-07-01 22:44 <whitequark> nice
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