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connection] 2012-06-29 18:52 talntid: here 2012-06-29 18:52 I'll be away soon, but you can always reach me at whitequark@whitequark.org 2012-06-29 18:53 DocScrutinizer's email address isn't hard to find, too. you can cc him if you want, but I'm not sure how far did he study these modules 2012-06-29 18:54 =] 2012-06-29 18:54 whitequark, can I ask you a few questions? Just basically... can those modules do MMS messages? 2012-06-29 18:55 seems they are supposed to, but... have yet to find someone who says for sure 2012-06-29 18:55 er 2012-06-29 18:55 that question is best answered by its documentation ;) 2012-06-29 18:55 I don't keep all of it in memory 2012-06-29 18:55 Its documentation is vague, at best. 2012-06-29 18:56 it has the words "MMS" in the title, but... doesn't actually *say* anything about it.. unless I am blind. 2012-06-29 18:56 hmm 2012-06-29 18:57 what variant do you have? 2012-06-29 18:57 sim900, sim900b, *? 2012-06-29 18:57 I don't. I am determining which one to buy 2012-06-29 18:58 btw, do you know how MMS works? 2012-06-29 18:58 AFAIK it uses TCP/IP underneath 2012-06-29 18:58 so the module itself should only support GPRS directly (at least) 2012-06-29 18:58 http://www.mt-system.ru/sites/default/files/docs/documents/sim900_mms_at%20command%20manual_v1.01.pdf 2012-06-29 18:59 yes, MMS uses TCP/IP underneath, and sends a specially formed SMS via AT command 2012-06-29 18:59 ok, you answered your question yourself 2012-06-29 18:59 but the AT command, evidently, has to support sending the "MMS" parts. 2012-06-29 19:00 the firmware has to support sending the extra parameters 2012-06-29 19:00 I am fairly certain that the SIM900 will do what I ask of it, but figured maybe you or the Doc could confirm. If not, I'm just going to but it and document it myself :) 2012-06-29 19:02 as you said though, there are multiple variants 2012-06-29 19:04 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-29 19:11 http://www.geekonfire.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_49&products_id=78 2012-06-29 19:11 seems like that might be the best bet 2012-06-29 19:14 should work, why not 2012-06-29 19:15 because it's out of stock :( 2012-06-29 19:25 phirsch has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-29 19:27 phirsch has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-29 19:39 [2012-06-28 20:37:24] not me! 2012-06-29 19:39 [2012-06-28 20:37:35] I only know what whitequark told me 2012-06-29 19:39 [ 2012-06-29 19:41 talntid: MMS is not handled by GSM module, it's an AP thing 2012-06-29 19:42 or what whitequark said 2012-06-29 19:43 talntid: on N900 fmms app doesn't use *any* special AT cmd for MMS 2012-06-29 19:43 it just uses a second APN network channel 2012-06-29 19:44 and I'm all but sure it could do 'normal' internet during sending / receiving a MMS via that special APN 2012-06-29 19:44 at least that's how I understood that MMs stuff 2012-06-29 19:45 if you want to know details, try to ping frals, author of fmms 2012-06-29 19:51 http://www.google.de/search?q=maemo+fmms&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 2012-06-29 19:53 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39737 2012-06-29 19:53 this sugests I'm right about switching of AP connections: 2012-06-29 19:54 As of release 0.6 there is now multiple "connection modes" available: 2012-06-29 19:54 * Polite (Default behavior <0.6): Only switch to MMS connection if no connection is active, otherwise do nothing (pretty much) 2012-06-29 19:55 * Rude: Force a disconnect of the active connection regardless of what it is, connect to MMS APN and then reconnect to the old one. 2012-06-29 19:55 * Havoc: Try to bring up a connection to the MMS APN in parallell with whatever is active, this is what most other phones do. Note that to get this functionality on the N900 there are a few ugly hacks active which might break stuff, but it *should* work 2012-06-29 19:57 Evening everyone! 2012-06-29 21:00 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-29 22:05 viric has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-06-29 22:05 viric has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-29 22:16 kristoffer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-29 22:44 LunaVorax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-29 22:58 Kanzo Hasaci (RT John Pyper(3)): RT @jpyper: @rejon @Fabricatorz @aikiframework @qihardware @sharism I wantbto be a Fabricator. What do I have to do to join? ( 218840528442232832@jpyper - 58s ago via Favstar.FM ) 2012-06-29 23:21 GNUtoo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-29 23:30 GNUtoo has quit [Quit: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.] 2012-06-29 23:40 heberth has joined #qi-hardware