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2012-06-25 00:28 <kristianpaul> wolfspraul: if you have already tested some baterry options for M1 please let us now
2012-06-25 00:29 <kristianpaul> i'm carrying with me milkymist since tomorrow, so i'll not have power for main avaliable all times..
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2012-06-25 00:42 <wolfspraul> not tested
2012-06-25 00:45 <kristianpaul> i was thinking buy 1.5V AA rechargable batteries until  get the 4.5V and see what worked :)
2012-06-25 01:07 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: about labsw, had you consider a cad designed case for next version? :)
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2012-06-25 01:48 <pabs3> git rm doesn't remove non-free stuff, its still in the repo history
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2012-06-25 01:58 <roh> well.. duh
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2012-06-25 02:32 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: (M1 power) at least in theory, you need regulated 5V. just a battery pack will produce weird results, since things like USB and MIDI feed directly off the 5V input.
2012-06-25 02:35 <kristianpaul> well, i can skip MIDI not sure about USB but try avoid it
2012-06-25 02:35 <wpwrak> (labsw) yeah. the case may be the hardest part to source. i'm stuck at the relays, though. they should be socketed, but it seems nearly impossible to find reasonably small relays with matching sockets.
2012-06-25 02:35 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: i was thinking a 4,8V (1.2V 2100mhA x 4) battery pack
2012-06-25 02:37 <wpwrak> if your batteries are fresh, you'd even be within the USB spec :)
2012-06-25 02:38 <kristianpaul> ;)
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2012-06-25 07:50 <qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: qfp.fpd: added more info about QFP48 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/6c2cafe
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2012-06-25 12:19 <larsc> does anybody by chance know anything about pc fan control? my laptop gives me an error at startup "Fan control". The fan is a 4wire 5V DC fan. When I apply power it starts rotating, but I don't get a feedback signal. Is this normal?
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2012-06-25 12:19 <larsc> I see pwm signals on some of the ICs pins
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2012-06-25 12:23 <Ayla> larsc: the mobo expects a signal from the fan
2012-06-25 12:23 <Ayla> you can fake it with a 555
2012-06-25 12:23 <Ayla> a better idea would be to change the fan if it's not working
2012-06-25 12:24 <larsc> it is working fine, as far as i can see
2012-06-25 12:24 <larsc> there is just no signal on the additional pins
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2012-06-25 12:39 <larsc> Ayla: do you know if it would work, if I shorted control and sense?
2012-06-25 12:40 <Ayla> I don't think so
2012-06-25 12:42 <Ayla> mth: I made a couple of experimental changes on gmenu2x, I'd like you to (dis-)agree with before I push anything
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2012-06-25 12:43 <larsc> Ayla: you can always push it into a 'experimental' branch
2012-06-25 12:44 <Ayla> hmm
2012-06-25 12:44 <Ayla> I could do that, but I suck at GIT :p
2012-06-25 12:44 <larsc> git push remote localbrach:remotebranch
2012-06-25 12:45 <mth> is the implementation experimental or the feature itself?
2012-06-25 12:45 <Ayla> for the first change, I'm not sure of the implementation
2012-06-25 12:45 <Ayla> the first change is a "reload()" function on the Surface object, that (when applicable) restores the content of the backbuffer, so that when fading is used (loading screen and contextual menu) the very last image is displayed as the background, and not an old image
2012-06-25 12:47 <Ayla> that's was not the case when rendering at 32bpp, because then the main surface is not double-buffered (as SDL does a conversion later)
2012-06-25 12:47 <Ayla> the experimental features are a switch to 16bpp, and a menu clock set to... 48MHz
2012-06-25 12:48 <mth> gmenu2x is already slow sometimes, I prefer not to clock it down further until we resolve that slowness
2012-06-25 12:48 <Ayla> 48MHz / 16bpp is as fast as 192MHz / 32bpp
2012-06-25 12:49 <mth> not when building a file list in the explorer, I think
2012-06-25 12:49 <mth> also some context menus take a long time to open
2012-06-25 12:50 <Ayla> which ones?
2012-06-25 12:50 <mth> I forgot, but I'll make note of it when it happens again
2012-06-25 12:50 <mth> it happens quite often
2012-06-25 12:51 <mth> I do agree with wanting to render at 16bpp, although for themes that use a lot of transparency 32bpp might look better
2012-06-25 12:51 <mth> what does "reload()" do exactly?
2012-06-25 12:51 <Ayla> memcpy(raw->pixels, backbuffer, raw->h * raw->pitch)
2012-06-25 12:54 <Ayla> transparency seems to work fine
2012-06-25 12:55 <Ayla> SDL takes care of that
2012-06-25 12:57 <mth> but alpha surfaces are 32 bpp anyway and when blending, the extra precision bits on the back buffer might avoid rounding errors
2012-06-25 12:58 <mth> RGBA surfaces with 8-bit alpha, I mean; you can have a 16bpp surface with color keyed alpha iirc, or RGBA5551
2012-06-25 13:01 <Ayla> no, because the back buffer is not RGBA
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2012-06-25 13:02 <mth> I mean the surface blitted onto the back buffer might be 32 bpp
2012-06-25 13:03 <Ayla> yes
2012-06-25 13:03 <Ayla> well, of course we lose a few bits of precision
2012-06-25 13:03 <Ayla> but that's expected
2012-06-25 13:07 <mth> anyway, we want to be able to render at 16bpp, whether we make that the default or not
2012-06-25 13:08 <mth> what is that "raw" buffer?
2012-06-25 13:08 <Ayla> "raw" is the name you gave to the SDL_Surface contained inside the Surface object
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2012-06-25 13:10 <mth> which Surface object do you want to call it on then?
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2012-06-25 13:11 <mth> what I don't understand is, why would there be an off-screen version of the current frame?
2012-06-25 13:11 <mth> I'd expect a repaint() rather than a reload()
2012-06-25 13:13 <mth> hmm, why does RGBAColor use 16 bits per component?
2012-06-25 13:17 <Ayla> I call it on the main Surface object, the one that corresponds to the framebuffer
2012-06-25 13:18 <Ayla> when using double buffering, that buffer corresponds to the one being sent to the LCD
2012-06-25 13:19 <mth> so the front buffer? that doesn't sound likely; SDL wouldn't give you the front buffer pointer unless you did some trickery
2012-06-25 13:20 <Ayla> yes, I did :p
2012-06-25 13:20 <Ayla> I save a pointer to raw->pixels on the "flip" function, before flipping the SDL_Surface
2012-06-25 13:20 <mth> that will break if we ever implement the rotating buffer via v4l2 idea
2012-06-25 13:21 <mth> I really prefer to repaint rather than save old frame contents
2012-06-25 13:21 <mth> repaint should be easier than restore and if it is not, that is something that should be fixed and will improve the code overall
2012-06-25 13:23 <Ayla> I did restore because repainting really isn't easy
2012-06-25 13:23 <Ayla> we really should rewrite gmenu2x from scratch
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2012-06-25 13:54 <wpwrak> i wonder how many times gmenu2x has died in people's dreams already. everybody seems to have an assassination plan, yet it still lives on ;-)
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2012-06-25 18:05 <larsc> Ayla: how crazy is this? The fan wouldn't work the whole weekend long. Took it with me to work today, hooked it up to a power supply and it worked fine. Now I took it back home and it works fine again with the laptop...
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2012-06-25 18:30 <kristianpaul> dust dust..
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2012-06-25 20:31 <Ayla> larsc: it just needed some fresh air ;)
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