2012-06-11 00:04 The build has FAILED: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120610-0412 2012-06-11 00:06 methril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-11 00:11 Textmode has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 00:17 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 00:18 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 00:19 methril has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 00:26 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 00:48 Aylax has quit [Quit: Bye] 2012-06-11 00:59 emeb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2012-06-11 01:20 whitequark has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-11 01:20 whitequark has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 01:35 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-11 01:47 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-11 01:53 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 01:53 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 02:16 xwalk_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-11 02:28 phirsch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-06-11 02:29 [commit] Adam Wang: scj368r1.fpd: added 3.5mm audio stereo phone jack (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/12ffd30 2012-06-11 02:29 [commit] Adam Wang: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:kicad-libs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/354d60f 2012-06-11 02:29 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-11 02:29 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-11 02:36 phirsch has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 02:43 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 03:10 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-11 03:13 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 03:40 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 03:53 xwalk_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 04:01 [commit] Adam Wang: renamed scj368r1.fpd -> phonejack.fpd: phonejack-${size}-${N} (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/dc51a1b 2012-06-11 04:09 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 04:18 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-11 05:01 rejon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 05:17 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 05:40 GNUtoo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 05:43 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 05:49 GNUtoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 06:02 jluis has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 06:08 rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-06-11 06:22 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 06:23 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 06:25 pabs3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 06:30 xwalk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 06:32 pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 06:38 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 07:05 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2012-06-11 07:06 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 07:22 xwalk_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 07:28 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 07:36 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 07:54 kristoffer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 08:24 kuribas has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 08:24 Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2012-06-11 08:33 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2012-06-11 08:38 Textmode has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 09:06 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 09:13 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 09:15 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2012-06-11 09:21 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 09:29 jivs_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 09:30 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 09:45 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 10:02 cladamw: did you see ? i make a script that generates connector symbols, for CONN_1 to CONN_40 and CONN_1X2 to CONN_40X2 2012-06-11 10:03 the script is components/gencon.pl and the library it generates is gencon.lib 2012-06-11 10:05 what's the syntax ? 2012-06-11 10:05 it's Perl :) 2012-06-11 10:06 unfortuanately, we don't have something like fped for schematics symbols ... 2012-06-11 10:06 *.pl is a language of Perl, right ? 2012-06-11 10:06 yes 2012-06-11 10:06 so how to generate ? 2012-06-11 10:07 i've never used Perl before. :-) 2012-06-11 10:07 i also made a variant of pads.fpd, called pads-array.fpd, which puts this sort of contacts in an array. for now, i use it with the "2mm" pattern at 50 mil pitch, for soldering ribbon cables. (like you can to with UBB) 2012-06-11 10:07 (perl) just "make gencon.lib" 2012-06-11 10:08 or you could run things manually, ./gencon.pl >gencon.lib 2012-06-11 10:10 maybe i should just have "make" build any generated files (in components/). right now, it's equivalent to "make sch", but typing "make sch" isn't all that much more work ... 2012-06-11 10:11 (pads.fpd) yeah ... these 'round' pad are good variants 2012-06-11 10:11 (phonejack.fpd) f.g. I used similar rounded pads but includes holes. 2012-06-11 10:12 the only problem we have now is that kicad sometimes ends up with endless lists of items :) 2012-06-11 10:13 in initial, I didn't know how to edit a round pad. :O Then I know how to edit a round pad with PTH after i saw your this (pads.fpd) examples. :-) 2012-06-11 10:13 [commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: "make" now generates instead of running "make sch" (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/49fa1ab 2012-06-11 10:13 heh :) 2012-06-11 10:14 letmme git pull and try. :-) 2012-06-11 10:14 btw, all the .fpd files should be listed in modules/Makefile, so that one can convert them to kicad .mod with a simple "make" 2012-06-11 10:15 good, seems I ONLY generated *.ps to check dimensions. :-) 2012-06-11 10:17 if 'Write KiCad' cmd can be auto 'made' by make which will be smartly and useful to me at least. :-) 2012-06-11 10:18 "make" is a source of power and magic ;-) 2012-06-11 10:19 good, now i see that gencon.lib 2012-06-11 10:20 [commit] Werner Almesberger: componens/adxl32x.lib: add pin for pad; put into components.pro (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/6ecb851 2012-06-11 10:21 let me update the catalog ... 2012-06-11 10:22 wolfspraul: btw, generating the catalog could be a task for your magic server scripts 2012-06-11 10:26 ah, and we don't translate NC. let's fix that ... 2012-06-11 10:29 cladamw: there's the ambiguity whether "NC" means "no internal connection" (so you can connect something if you want, e.g., to help with routing), or whether it means "do not connect" (so the pin has a function but you're not supposed to use it) 2012-06-11 10:29 if we called the latter "DNC" instead of just "NC", do you think people would recognize the acronym ? or would it be too uncommon ? 2012-06-11 10:32 (DNC vs NC) severely speaking ... mmm good point now. we now need to redefine both. :-) 2012-06-11 10:33 people would hard to recognize. 2012-06-11 10:34 do you want to say DO NOT CONNECT ? 2012-06-11 10:34 in kicad, you can already express this condition: "no internal connection" would be pin type "Unspecified". "do not connect" would be pin type "NC" 2012-06-11 10:34 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2012-06-11 10:35 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 10:35 a NC in sever datasheet will always describe very well as "no internal connection" 2012-06-11 10:35 my question is now for the catalog. should i follow kicad's example and translate "NC" to "NC", or should i show "DNC" instead ? 2012-06-11 10:36 (NC in data sheets) yes, some say "no internal connection", some say "do not connect", and others just say "NC". the ones i trust most are those that have "do not connect" and "no internal connection" in the same data sheets (for different pins, of course). that means that they actually thought about it :) 2012-06-11 10:37 i prefer NC. :-) 2012-06-11 10:37 (in sch) we can define some texts there. :-) 2012-06-11 10:37 alright. NC it is then 2012-06-11 10:40 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2012-06-11 10:45 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 10:59 https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/06/11/cve-2012-2122-a-tragically-comedic-security-flaw-in-mysql !!!!! 2012-06-11 11:00 xwalk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2012-06-11 11:00 GNUtoo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 11:02 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-11 11:13 Aylax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 11:17 DocScrutinizer: subtle :) makes me wonder how/why they implemented such an odd check 2012-06-11 11:18 a hash table of size 256?? dafaq 2012-06-11 11:20 kuribas has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 2012-06-11 11:22 well, actually man 3 memcmp 2012-06-11 11:24 WTF would anybody cast the return code to int8? 2012-06-11 11:24 why would anybody care at all about the actual value, if !=0 2012-06-11 11:26 my CentOS box seems safe 2012-06-11 11:27 at least the crack oneliner didn't succeed 2012-06-11 12:03 [commit] Werner Almesberger: b2/test/subesc: more tests; also for values; add explanation of escaping (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/7f24ef0 2012-06-11 12:03 [commit] Werner Almesberger: genex/expand-pintype: add translation for "new" pin type NC (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/3949ead 2012-06-11 12:03 [commit] Werner Almesberger: genex/expand-pintype: reduce character width (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/4cb56eb 2012-06-11 12:03 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 12:03 kyak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-06-11 12:03 kyak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 12:10 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 12:15 DocScrutinizer has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2012-06-11 12:17 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 12:17 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 12:18 DocScrutinizer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 12:22 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 12:22 [commit] Adam Wang: rj45.fpd: RJ45-8-LED added 8 pins ethernet connectors with two leds version from Molex. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/178fbc3 2012-06-11 12:22 [commit] Adam Wang: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:kicad-libs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/b9a3927 2012-06-11 12:23 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-11 12:32 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 12:40 Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2012-06-11 12:43 Aylax has quit [Quit: Bye] 2012-06-11 12:54 Textmode has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 13:02 Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2012-06-11 13:19 Textmode has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 13:20 interesting ... i have a few batteries (AA primary cells) that are depleted to the point of having a negative voltage. i didn't even know they could do that :) 2012-06-11 13:25 Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2012-06-11 13:27 you didn't know? when you finish the batteries, you place them upside-down and loop ad infinitum 2012-06-11 13:28 it's a big pendulum effect 2012-06-11 13:28 the fastest you unload the batteries, the more inverse charge. 2012-06-11 13:30 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-11 13:36 lol 2012-06-11 13:37 wpwrak: actually this indicates you mixed batteries in series with differing capacity. Rechargeables will get killed by that 2012-06-11 13:39 actually the effect is a vicious circle: the battery with least capacity in your bat-pack gets damaged further the most and the first 2012-06-11 13:42 positive feedback! 2012-06-11 13:42 that's btw a valid reasoning why you indeed *should* charge even LiIon *packs* for 12h before first use. And not discharge further than to 70% remaining during the first maybe 5 cycles 2012-06-11 13:43 for LiIon single cells, all that doesn't apply 2012-06-11 13:56 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 14:10 GNUtoo-desktop has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 14:17 DocScrutinizer: hmm, i think i replaced them all at the same time. most of them are < 100 mV, one a bit more two read negative. they've been in wiimotes, so a pair in each. the wiimote has pretty large idle consumption. 2012-06-11 14:22 xiangfu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 14:27 GNUtoo has quit [Quit: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.] 2012-06-11 14:40 wolfspraul: how's the PCB-making going ? have you made the first acid test yet ? 2012-06-11 14:41 he. pushing it out :-) 2012-06-11 14:41 don't fear :) 2012-06-11 14:41 I 'almost' started a few times the last days, but I'm in a good run on the fpgatools so that's first right now 2012-06-11 14:43 heh, okay. too much multitasking is bad, too :) 2012-06-11 14:45 antgreen has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 14:48 urandom__ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 14:49 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 14:54 GNUtoo-desktop has quit [Quit: [INFO] fsogsmd : received signal -11, exiting.] 2012-06-11 14:55 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 14:59 jivs_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-11 15:05 phirsch has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-11 15:10 emeb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 15:12 phirsch has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 15:21 larsc has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-11 15:36 Aylax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 15:41 kuribas has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 15:52 GNUtoo-desktop has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 15:59 vladkorotnev has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 16:03 vladkorotnev has left #qi-hardware [#qi-hardware] 2012-06-11 16:06 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 16:19 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 16:29 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-11 17:07 Aylax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 17:14 GNUtoo-desktop has quit [Quit: [INFO] fsogsmd : received signal -11, exiting.] 2012-06-11 17:41 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 18:01 rzk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 18:05 rzk has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 18:12 jluis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-11 18:17 jluis has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 18:37 jluis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-11 18:40 * kristianpaul multitask all day at work :-| 2012-06-11 18:40 jluis has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 20:13 larsc has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 20:49 urandom__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 21:00 kristoffer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-11 21:00 kuribas` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 21:01 kuribas` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-11 21:35 xwalk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-06-11 21:36 xwalk has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 21:38 Aylax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:20 valhalla_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:29 valhalla has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2012-06-11 22:29 xwalk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2012-06-11 22:30 rozzin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 22:30 kyak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2012-06-11 22:30 mth__ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:31 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 22:31 mth_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-11 22:32 kyak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:32 kyak has quit [Changing host] 2012-06-11 22:32 kyak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:38 xwalk has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:44 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 22:53 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-11 23:00 rozzin has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 23:06 Textmode has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 23:17 dandon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-11 23:23 kuribas has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 2012-06-11 23:47 Aylax has quit [Quit: Bye]