2012-06-07 00:26 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 00:26 wolfspra1l has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-06-07 00:32 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 00:44 cladamw: (string to number) simple: you can't :) 2012-06-07 00:45 wpwrak, hehe ... okay. 2012-06-07 00:45 but if you have a string value in a table, you can always add another column with a numeric value 2012-06-07 00:45 yeah ... i did like that way. :-) 2012-06-07 00:45 or try to use numbers as much as possible and only convert them to strings when you really need a string 2012-06-07 00:50 yeah ... indeed. 2012-06-07 01:07 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 01:11 [commit] Adam Wang: stdpass.fpd: added a cathode for polarized variants(xxxxP) started from 0603 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/c05a603 2012-06-07 01:11 [commit] Adam Wang: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:kicad-libs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/57ab747 2012-06-07 01:13 Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 01:13 oh, and if you want to use string comparison, then you should upgrade your fped and use the new key feature :) 2012-06-07 01:13 upgrading fped should be very easy: git pull and then make install 2012-06-07 01:17 hmm ... do now 2012-06-07 01:18 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-07 01:21 wpwrak, rev 59b90b3 ? 2012-06-07 01:23 yup 2012-06-07 01:23 :) 2012-06-07 01:25 wolfspraul has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-06-07 01:25 when editing a variable or column name, you'see that there's a new field above the name. it says "assign". if you click on it, it changes to "key" and a question mark appears before the name in the table 2012-06-07 01:26 you can change it back to "assign" by editing it again and clicking on "key" 2012-06-07 01:26 if it's set to "assign", it works as it did before 2012-06-07 01:28 if it is set to "key", fped will look for a variable/column with that name, and only consider the rows of the table where the values match 2012-06-07 01:30 when a variable is set to "key", i see a '?key' 2012-06-07 01:30 s/?key/?variable 2012-06-07 01:31 compcube has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 01:31 so a '?variable' means expression like if variable = xx then do ... ? 2012-06-07 01:32 yes, exactly 2012-06-07 01:33 good, need to practice. tks a lot. :-) 2012-06-07 01:33 any of the keys in a row doesn't match (you can have more than one key if you like things complicated :), then the row is simply ignored. just as if you had deleted it 2012-06-07 01:35 alright 2012-06-07 01:37 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 01:40 emeb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2012-06-07 01:40 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 01:45 xwalk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-07 01:48 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2012-06-07 01:53 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 01:53 rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-07 01:56 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 02:01 pabspabspabs has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 02:02 pabs3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-07 02:14 pabspabspabs is now known as pabs3 2012-06-07 02:16 wpwrak, where can i find your X1 datasheet url of atben ? 2012-06-07 02:21 wpwrak, sorry, no need. :-) 2012-06-07 02:22 wpwrak: have you considered just adding guile instead of inventing YALNON? (yet another language no one needs) 2012-06-07 02:22 or (gasp) javascript, for all those arduino kids. I'm for guile, through. 2012-06-07 02:35 [commit] Adam Wang: xtal-4.fpd: (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3baf66a 2012-06-07 03:11 The build has FAILED: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120607-0112 2012-06-07 03:12 Jon Phillips: @jugendingenieur (teenage engineering) are my new heroes! @qihardware @fabricatorz @sharism ( 210569579527806978@rejon - 46s ago via Ping.fm ) 2012-06-07 03:14 Openfree` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-07 03:14 Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 03:19 Openfree` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-07 03:19 Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 03:37 heberth has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 03:46 rejon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 03:57 wow this ultrasonic cleaner is so cool 2012-06-07 03:58 I stacked up on a whole bunch of tools for my home lab, great advantage of beijing that pretty much all tools cost at most 50 usd 2012-06-07 03:58 the cleaner was maybe 20 usd or so 2012-06-07 03:58 what happens if I hold my finger in it? :-) 2012-06-07 03:59 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-07 04:02 heberth has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-06-07 04:02 heberth has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 04:06 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 04:08 Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2012-06-07 04:17 wolfspraul: that was your last phrase, are you in a hospital now? :) 2012-06-07 04:20 nah 2012-06-07 04:20 contemplating which finger is best for the test :-) 2012-06-07 04:20 that cleaner is really cool, I will go through all sorts of things and really clean them finally 2012-06-07 04:21 does it look like a dish washing machine? 2012-06-07 04:22 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-07 04:23 it's very small, household appliance 2012-06-07 04:28 heberth_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 04:29 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 04:31 heberth_ has quit [Client Quit] 2012-06-07 04:31 heberth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 04:48 wolfspraul: just put your finger in 2012-06-07 04:48 nothing will happen 2012-06-07 04:48 well, except maybe some cleaning. nothing harmful, definitely 2012-06-07 04:49 I would think so too. you feel some tickling? 2012-06-07 04:49 yeah, a little bit 2012-06-07 04:49 maybe I do an animal test first? :-) (just kidding, just kidding) 2012-06-07 05:05 xwalk has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 05:14 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 05:17 xwalk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-07 05:29 Jon Phillips: Great to see @qihardware wikipedia entry in -‡ http://t.co/oegvboqn @xiangfu @sharism @fabricatorz ( 210604132258684928@rejon - 28s ago via Ping.fm ) 2012-06-07 05:31 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 05:44 [commit] Adam Wang: xtal-2.fpd: added 2-pins smd xtal pattern -> xtal2-11.5mmx4.83mm (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/eb8132c 2012-06-07 05:55 whitequark: cool. it took me a while to convince myself to listen to you, but finally I did :-) 2012-06-07 05:55 and indeed, just some interesting tickling effect 2012-06-07 05:59 jluis|work has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 06:26 whitequark: (YALNON) hmm, you may want to study the structure of the fped language. it has very specific characteristics designed for allowing things to be expressed in text or graphically: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/fped/source/tree/master/README 2012-06-07 06:28 wolfspraul: (cleaner) you'll feel a weak tingling sensation :) 2012-06-07 06:29 that is, unless you got some especially mean device. but that one would rip your chips apart, too. 2012-06-07 06:30 ah, you tried. good :) 2012-06-07 06:31 yes, tried 2012-06-07 06:31 the box even has German on it, seems Germans like cleaning 2012-06-07 06:32 since I buy a (hard to find) ultrasonic cleaner in a beijing street market, and then the outside of the box is in German :-) 2012-06-07 06:32 that cleaner, 25 USD. rework station, 25 USD. dremel 20 usd. drilling machine, 20 USD, etc. etc. 2012-06-07 06:32 or maybe it's for the swiss. they're even a bit more obsessive about such things :) 2012-06-07 06:32 laser printer, 100 usd. a little on the expensive side :-) 2012-06-07 06:32 iron, 15 usd 2012-06-07 06:33 they also have (original) weller soldering irons here, but when you hear those prices (300 usd for a simple iron), it's like from another planet 2012-06-07 06:33 (ultrasonic cleaner) i wonder what model you got. hope it's not too powerful. you chips don;t need much encouragement. 2012-06-07 06:33 (weller) yeah ;-) 2012-06-07 06:38 [commit] Adam Wang: xtal-4.fpd: added xtal4-5mmx3.2mm variant package (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/bcdcbdb 2012-06-07 06:40 jekhor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2012-06-07 06:42 I bought this one, vgt-800 http://www.vgt.cc/en/product1.asp?Menuid=11&id=29 2012-06-07 06:42 35W, 40khz frequency 2012-06-07 06:43 I simply buy the cheapest first, then find out what breaks, where performance lacks, etc. it's much more fun (and faster) playing with a cheap 20 USD thingie and then scaling up when needed... 2012-06-07 06:47 GeorgeH has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 06:51 (tingling sensation) was that a nethack reference?.. 2012-06-07 06:53 (fped) very interesting, I should really try the kicad toolchain 2012-06-07 06:59 panda|x201 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-07 07:05 cups was mentioned the other day. what's the short story on it? 2012-06-07 07:05 apple bought the devs/copyright a while ago, and then? 2012-06-07 07:11 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 07:13 (nethack) maybe unconsciously ;-) 2012-06-07 07:15 wolfspraul: looks like a good choice. not too potent. lacks a frequency sweep (to avoid resonances), but that's to be expected at the low end. 2012-06-07 07:16 (cups) the (apple-paid) developers recently dropped a feature used on linux. it seemed like an unfriendly act but without overly severe consequences to me. 2012-06-07 07:16 (don't remember the details) 2012-06-07 07:17 ah ok 2012-06-07 07:17 you think the ultrasonic action can damage chips? how so? 2012-06-07 07:19 wolfspra1l has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 07:22 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-07 07:25 wej has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2012-06-07 07:28 jurting has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 07:31 if it hits the resonant frequency of some elements in the chip (e.g., leads), then they can break 2012-06-07 07:36 at least that's what i've read. haven't had any chip fail due to ultrasound damage yet :) 2012-06-07 07:38 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 07:40 freespace has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2012-06-07 07:40 understood 2012-06-07 07:43 freespace has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 08:07 GeorgeH has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-07 08:10 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 08:15 vladkorotnev has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 08:33 jurting has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-07 08:43 vladkorotnev_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 08:43 vladkorotnev has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-06-07 08:43 vladkorotnev_ is now known as vladkorotnev 2012-06-07 08:44 Maroni has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 08:46 vladkorotnev has quit [Client Quit] 2012-06-07 09:03 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-07 09:17 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 09:17 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 09:20 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 09:28 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 09:36 pabs3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-07 09:41 DocScrutinizer06 is now known as DocScrutinizer05 2012-06-07 10:09 pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:10 wolfspra1l has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-06-07 10:10 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:10 wpwrak: I'm thinking about the issues around submerging an entire pcba in water 2012-06-07 10:11 naturally you don't want it to be powered anywhere, #1 2012-06-07 10:11 which includes batteries or supercaps 2012-06-07 10:11 uwe_mobile__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-07 10:11 but what else on the board could be incompatible with water? some parts where the water might soak into? 2012-06-07 10:12 uwe_mobile has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:12 vias in the pcb even? or some water under a mechanical connector where it doesn't dry easily 2012-06-07 10:12 how would you dry the board after water submersion? 2012-06-07 10:12 what should be the longest time under water? 3 minutes? more? less? 2012-06-07 10:13 just thinking 2012-06-07 10:13 there's probably a number of things that could be soldered on a pcb that better not get submerged in water, I would think 2012-06-07 10:28 jivs_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:29 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:29 jurting has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:29 vladkorotnev has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 10:29 hey guys 2012-06-07 10:29 just a quick question 2012-06-07 10:30 what program is to run a prog with a different encoding in a tty that is incompatible? 2012-06-07 10:30 like iconv, but for progs 2012-06-07 10:31 larsc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-07 10:35 hi xiangfu 2012-06-07 10:35 jivs_, Hi 2012-06-07 10:35 I have now solved that error in my 64bit system by adding disable-shared on guile makefile 2012-06-07 10:36 Can you try that and see in your system plz 2012-06-07 10:36 vladkorotnev has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-06-07 10:36 HOST_CONFIGURE_ARGS += --disable-shared --with-libgmp-prefix 2012-06-07 10:36 jivs_, yes. git pull... 2012-06-07 10:37 I haven't committed on qipackages 2012-06-07 10:37 ok. 2012-06-07 10:37 editing.. 2012-06-07 10:37 just one line, if it works then we can add 2012-06-07 10:37 it is just the --disable-shared option which is required. 2012-06-07 10:37 okay 2012-06-07 10:38 comping... 2012-06-07 10:38 compiling.. 2012-06-07 10:39 fingers crossed.. i am hopeful it will work now:-) 2012-06-07 10:39 http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building: is for failed build or building . 2012-06-07 10:40 http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/ is the success build place. 2012-06-07 10:40 for example: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120601-0638/ <-- this one is a failed build. we can check the all build log. just FYI. 2012-06-07 10:41 okay thanks 2012-06-07 10:42 strangely the error occurs only in 64bit systems. so it took me time to figure out the solution 2012-06-07 10:57 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-07 11:00 xwalk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 11:02 larsc has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 11:03 phirsch has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 11:08 lekernel_ is now known as lekernel 2012-06-07 11:12 phirsch has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 11:14 jivs_, great. compile just fine. please commit your change. 2012-06-07 11:15 Maroni has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2012-06-07 11:16 excellent 2012-06-07 11:19 I will commit now 2012-06-07 11:20 GNUtoo-desktop has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 11:28 wolfspraul has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2012-06-07 11:28 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 11:32 antoniodariuh_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 11:38 Textmode has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 11:38 Textmode has quit [Client Quit] 2012-06-07 11:53 wolfspraul: (water) normally, pcbas don't mind water or alcohol. if any power sources are present, ions may make contact in some form, but it's usually a non-issue, because the very reason why you want to clean it has probably already provided plenty of ions free to do as they please 2012-06-07 11:54 also, you should use demineralized water (in the cleaner) to avoid adding ions 2012-06-07 11:54 to evict tap water (manual cleaning), i use alcohol 2012-06-07 11:55 with the ultrasonic bath, i just the the critter dry 2012-06-07 11:55 one risk may be that packages absorb some water and could then suffer damage when soldering 2012-06-07 11:57 but their ability to do that is also limited. so it's probably fairly safe. i don't recall any issues in solder-clean-solder/rework cycles, even with obstinate components 2012-06-07 12:00 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 12:01 you mean you clean the bathtub (?) with alcohol first? 2012-06-07 12:02 and what do you mean with "use the critter dry"? don't understand 2012-06-07 12:10 DocScrutinizer05 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-07 12:10 DocScrutinizer05 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 12:10 DocScrutinizer has quit [Disconnected by services] 2012-06-07 12:10 DocScrutinizer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 12:28 [commit] Adam Wang: c-smd.fpd: added packages for SMD Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/71a66c7 2012-06-07 12:33 kuribas has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 12:34 cladamw has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2012-06-07 12:36 (bathtub) naw, a few lone ions won't hurt :) 2012-06-07 12:36 the alcohol would be for cases where you scrub a pcb(a) manually under the tap 2012-06-07 12:37 (critter dry) the pcba. shaking off the excess (deionized) water is often enough 2012-06-07 12:38 the electrical problem with water is not the H2O itself but the ions. so as long as the water is reasonably pure it won't cause much trouble 2012-06-07 12:39 the other problem with water is the formation of steam, when heated. if this happens in a confined space, a (tiny) explosion will result 2012-06-07 12:41 I can't follow 2012-06-07 12:42 so basically you say "use demineralized water only" 2012-06-07 12:42 that's #1 2012-06-07 12:42 then no need for special drying, just shaking off the water and waiting a bit for it to evaporate. maybe hair dryer? 2012-06-07 12:43 or no hair dryer, because of steam problem... 2012-06-07 12:46 wolfspraul has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-06-07 12:48 ( wpwrak: I'm thinking about the issues around submerging an entire pcba in water) things that don't like water at all: microphone, battery, several switches, possibly barometric sensor, humidity sensor 2012-06-07 12:49 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 12:50 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2012-06-07 12:53 wolfspraul: removing water under chips and from inside mech switches is hard 2012-06-07 12:54 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 12:56 wolfspraul: I usually clean severely polluted PCBA under flowing tap water, with a smooth brush. then rinse with pure alcohol (it's hygroscopic and will dillute/supersede the water - partially). Then I dry PCBA on slightly elevated temperature (50°C, PC's PSU exhaust fan etc) for at least 3 days, depending on my guts feeling regarding problematic components on that particular PCBA sometimes even for a week or two 2012-06-07 12:57 protecting things like speakers, microphones etc that can't get removed from PCBA 2012-06-07 12:58 some scortchtape patch often helps for those components 2012-06-07 12:58 Scotch 2012-06-07 12:59 interesting 2012-06-07 12:59 aaah, I forgot one step 2012-06-07 12:59 that's a different use case though (but still very good), where you have a very dirty pcba after years of use 2012-06-07 12:59 blow out water/alcohol with pressurized air 2012-06-07 12:59 yeah, ok 2012-06-07 13:00 got it 2012-06-07 13:00 thanks! 2012-06-07 13:00 (years of use) usually spilled coke 2012-06-07 13:00 or the like 2012-06-07 13:00 even more often simply dropped device into water / soup / toilet / whatever 2012-06-07 13:02 beer XP - I actually heard of someone whose friends or dunno who threw his device into his beer 2012-06-07 13:03 "here, that's what you can do with your damn phone!" ;-D 2012-06-07 13:08 time for another coffee here 2012-06-07 13:12 compcube has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-07 13:49 wolfspraul: the hair dryer is just hot air. it won't cause water to expand violently :) 2012-06-07 13:49 Ayla has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-07 13:49 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 13:50 (beer phone) interesting concept :) 2012-06-07 13:53 basically anything that doesn't need special precautions when soldering should be fine with water. after all, that's how pcbas are cleaned in industry as well. 2012-06-07 13:55 xiangfu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 13:56 Maroni has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 14:06 a complete pcba in water? I haven't seen that so far 2012-06-07 14:06 we can ask Adam tomorrow 2012-06-07 14:06 wpwrak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2012-06-07 14:06 brushes yes 2012-06-07 14:07 I cannot really imagine a wide-spread use of water for pcba cleaning even just because drying will be slow, and every second matters 2012-06-07 14:07 [commit] Jiva Nath Bagale: fixed gmp shared library issue for guile2 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/35f6adf 2012-06-07 14:07 [commit] Jiva Nath Bagale: Merge branch 'master' of git://projects.qi-hardware.com/openwrt-packages (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e2e4bcd 2012-06-07 14:14 kristoffer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 14:16 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 14:33 Ayla is now known as AwAyla 2012-06-07 15:19 wolfspraul: so ... how boom's "back office" works 2012-06-07 15:19 listening 2012-06-07 15:19 (but my evening wine bottle is already opened :-) 2012-06-07 15:19 that's the part of it that knows part characteristics and the inventories of providers 2012-06-07 15:19 so reception quality may degrade 2012-06-07 15:19 or improve ;-) 2012-06-07 15:20 what it does is that it starts with a relatively general query on digi-key, e.g., "murata". 2012-06-07 15:20 this will yield a list of categories. it picks the one we're interested in at that time. 2012-06-07 15:20 then it refines the query by making selections in the parametric search 2012-06-07 15:21 all this query process is something someone has to set up manually. the goal is to extract all the elements belonging to a certain produce series, e.g., the xyz series of ceramic caps 2012-06-07 15:21 s/produce/product 2012-06-07 15:21 wpwrak meant: "all this query process is something someone has to set up manually. the goal is to extract all the elements belonging to a certain product series, e.g., the xyz series of ceramic caps" 2012-06-07 15:22 with the list, the "backend" goes to the detailed page for each item and extracts part number, pricing, stock, and textual description 2012-06-07 15:23 it stores pricing, stock, and description keyed by vendor plus vendor part number 2012-06-07 15:24 then it takes the vendor part number and decodes it. there are scripts (again, manually provided), that do this kind of work. they generate a list of parameters for that part 2012-06-07 15:24 these go in turn into the parts characteristics database 2012-06-07 15:24 and that's all 2012-06-07 15:25 then the "interactive" part of boom comes and searches the characteristics for, say, T=R R=100k FP=0603 TOL<=5% 2012-06-07 15:26 emeb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 15:27 the "backend" runs indendently from the frontend. could even run in a central place and distribute tarballs of the tables it generates. not sure about copyright issues, though. at least the textual descriptions should be copyrightable, if not prices, inventory, and provider part numbers as well 2012-06-07 15:32 this would be an example of a part number decoding script: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/eda-tools/source/tree/master/boom/manu/yageo/yageo.gen 2012-06-07 15:33 and these would be the digi-key query scripts: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/eda-tools/source/tree/master/boom/dist/dk/yageo-cc.catq 2012-06-07 15:34 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/eda-tools/source/tree/master/boom/dist/dk/yageo-rc.catq 2012-06-07 15:34 ok! 2012-06-07 15:35 good that I have some prior boom v1 knowledge :-) 2012-06-07 15:47 hehe :) 2012-06-07 15:48 it's much simpler than the gta02-core workflow, which had all that, plus the things from FIC :) 2012-06-07 15:48 of course, you can also complexify this one. e.g., by adding other providers 2012-06-07 15:50 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 15:54 AwAyla is now known as Ayla 2012-06-07 16:05 vladkorotnev has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 16:05 hey guys, is there multichannel in irssi? 2012-06-07 16:09 of course 2012-06-07 16:09 how does it work? 2012-06-07 16:09 and doesnt tmux interfere? 2012-06-07 16:09 tmux? ... 2012-06-07 16:10 yep that thing for multiple terminals in a tty 2012-06-07 16:10 maybe keybindings interfere so i cant use multiroom anyway lol 2012-06-07 16:10 my irssi runs in a screen 2012-06-07 16:11 what is the key to switch windows in irssi? 2012-06-07 16:11 esc 2012-06-07 16:11 ha 2012-06-07 16:11 thanks 2012-06-07 16:12 really, debian + tmux = best for netbooks! 2012-06-07 16:12 really? esc? 2012-06-07 16:12 I don't use that 2012-06-07 16:12 esc, then num of window 2012-06-07 16:12 I do use alt + left/right 2012-06-07 16:13 its switchin tty's, no? 2012-06-07 16:13 esc + q to p works as well for window 11-20 2012-06-07 16:13 vladkorotnev, not under X 2012-06-07 16:13 ah 2012-06-07 16:13 you use xorg 2012-06-07 16:13 i'm in pure cli :P 2012-06-07 16:14 then Ctrl + N/P 2012-06-07 16:15 numbers are faster if u remember where is what 2012-06-07 16:15 C-n/p works too 2012-06-07 16:15 it's a bit of a pain to use on azerty keyboards 2012-06-07 16:15 as you have to press Shift to enter a number 2012-06-07 16:15 ahh 2012-06-07 16:16 and window Q isnt in line with WER etc 2012-06-07 16:25 jivs_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-07 16:38 B_Lizzard has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 17:03 Ayla has quit [Quit: brb] 2012-06-07 17:04 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 17:14 antoniodariuh_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2012-06-07 17:32 vladkorotnev has quit [Quit: leaving] 2012-06-07 17:45 antgreen has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 18:04 lol 2012-06-07 18:05 * DocScrutinizer05 is happy with xchat ;-D 2012-06-07 18:05 almost... happy 2012-06-07 18:08 what were you previously happy with? 2012-06-07 18:24 kilae has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2012-06-07 18:31 paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-06-07 18:34 paroneayea has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 18:36 Ayla has quit [Quit: brb] 2012-06-07 18:38 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 18:39 paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2012-06-07 18:39 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 18:56 Ayla has quit [Quit: brb] 2012-06-07 18:57 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 19:02 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 19:19 paroneayea has joined #qi-hardware 2012-06-07 19:44 jivs has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2012-06-07 19:49 kyak: maybe this is the first time he's happy :) 2012-06-07 20:05 kilae has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0/20120601045813]] 2012-06-07 20:44 Maroni has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2012-06-07 20:54 jekhor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 2012-06-07 21:13 antgreen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2012-06-07 21:31 actually, yes 2012-06-07 21:32 previously I tried this stuff on gta02... err, 2012-06-07 21:32 Freud forbids I recall the name 2012-06-07 21:33 purple? 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