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2012-03-22 01:47 <qi-bot> [commit] David K
2012-03-22 01:50 <wolfspraul> when does David sleep?
2012-03-22 01:50 <dvdk> :)
2012-03-22 01:50 <dvdk> not at the regular times :)
2012-03-22 01:52 <wolfspraul> xiangfu: hi good morning :-)
2012-03-22 01:53 <wolfspraul> your latest release has gotten some attention and people help to bring things back together - which is wonderful!
2012-03-22 01:54 <dvdk> will there be a 03-18-b release?  given how much is still broken?
2012-03-22 01:54 <wolfspraul> let's continue to inrease the quality in builds and makefiles etc. to reduce our maintenance overhead going forward
2012-03-22 01:54 <wolfspraul> oh sure, why not
2012-03-22 01:55 <dvdk> btw, will just have a (short) look on the bard package
2012-03-22 01:55 <wolfspraul> sometimes xiangfu is a bit lonely/overwhelmed, so he just kicked this 'release' out also for people to see the distro is still alive :-)
2012-03-22 01:55 <wolfspraul> the long term goal is to increase quality, decrease maintenance overhead
2012-03-22 01:56 <wolfspraul> so that we can make future new products (hw+sw combined) without running into a fork/maintenance trap
2012-03-22 01:56 <wolfspraul> but as we can see now, it's easier said than done - things get upleveled, other things break, etc.
2012-03-22 01:56 <dvdk> I guess most people (including me) won't have looked at he problems as long as it was still labled "testing" or "prerelease" :)
2012-03-22 01:56 <wolfspraul> sure that's ok, we all need to be efficient with our time
2012-03-22 01:57 <wolfspraul> high quality software does *not* rot, right? :-)
2012-03-22 01:57 <kristianpaul> I was trying last release today.. got few apps :(  (yes i'm aware rebase issues)
2012-03-22 01:58 * kristianpaul could had also try nanonote owrt from upstream..
2012-03-22 01:58 <dvdk> kristianpaul: wahat's missing
2012-03-22 01:58 <dvdk> ?
2012-03-22 01:59 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: yes but it's correct to first remove everything that drags us down, and then bring things back depending on what someone wants, where a maintainer steps up, what is easy to un-break, etc.
2012-03-22 01:59 <wolfspraul> otherwise we would drag a bigger and bigger boatload of low-quality stuff with us, which would be bad
2012-03-22 02:00 <kristianpaul> i dont remenner actually... i had installed the night build from late 2011
2012-03-22 02:00 <kristianpaul> dvdk: soem gtk based apps i think
2012-03-22 02:00 <wolfspraul> dvdk: I thought more about codecs, and I think we can and should really only focus on a very short whitelist, starting with Ogg*, and 100% clear free stuff only
2012-03-22 02:00 <wolfspraul> basically what we do already :-)
2012-03-22 02:00 <kristianpaul> sure remove is okay
2012-03-22 02:00 <kristianpaul> those were working  (wrong characters) well anyway 
2012-03-22 02:01 <wolfspraul> we have nothing to gain by thinking that if we just include this one MPEG whatever or other borderline codec, where patents might have/should have expired, we are doing something good
2012-03-22 02:02 <kristianpaul> xiangfu: about jz4760, just curious when Miguel mention flash support that will require xburst tool support the specific nand chip that its board uses?
2012-03-22 02:02 <wolfspraul> it's better to focus on the best free codecs, and support and document them well
2012-03-22 02:02 <kristianpaul> or this is some how done by the xburst soc it self?
2012-03-22 02:02 <wolfspraul> most likely videos or music for the Ben will have to be transcoded anyway
2012-03-22 02:02 <kristianpaul> just curious to learn a bit of xburst tool, big unknow to me so far ;-)
2012-03-22 02:05 <xiangfu> kristianpaul, (jz4760) I don't think so. I would guess just some configure should be ok.
2012-03-22 02:06 <xiangfu> kristianpaul, I found the gtk/qt moved to other package feeds. I added them back yesterday.  in fact include all feeds I can found. :)
2012-03-22 02:06 <xiangfu> kristianpaul, so the gtk/qt will be back soon. 
2012-03-22 02:09 <xiangfu> dvdk, I will try to fix the package from feedback.
2012-03-22 02:10 <dvdk> hi xiangfu.  fix which packages
2012-03-22 02:10 <dvdk> ?
2012-03-22 02:10 <xiangfu> bard first 
2012-03-22 02:10 <xiangfu> then ase 
2012-03-22 02:12 <dvdk> xiangfu: ase already fixed  http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d478f19
2012-03-22 02:12 <dvdk> looking just at fixing bard
2012-03-22 02:13 <xiangfu> you fast :)
2012-03-22 02:19 <kristianpaul> xiangfu: gtk, good :)
2012-03-22 02:20 <kristianpaul> xiangfu: jz4760, np, just vagly asking i dont hold much interested on it, just curious about xburst a bit as i said
2012-03-22 02:20 <kristianpaul> actually my nanonote interest are software related, i had lear some about openwrt and linux thanks to it :)
2012-03-22 02:29 <qi-bot> [commit] David K
2012-03-22 02:30 <dvdk> so where do I find the font packaga dejavu-fonts-ttf-DejaVuSans?
2012-03-22 02:30 <dvdk> for bard?
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2012-03-22 02:32 <xiangfu> dvdk, it's under another package feeds: svn://svn.openwrt.org/openwrt/feeds/xorg
2012-03-22 02:32 <xiangfu> dvdk, this is our new feeds.conf: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/openwrt-xburst.full_system/feeds.conf
2012-03-22 02:34 <xiangfu> dvdk, let's wait this build result: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120321-0142/. it should build gtk/qt and font 
2012-03-22 02:34 <dvdk> ah, ok wasn't here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/latest/feeds.conf
2012-03-22 02:44 <qi-bot> The build was successful: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120321-0142 
2012-03-22 02:44 <dvdk> ok, bard works now.  packag here http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/dvdkhlng/openwrt/
2012-03-22 02:46 <wolfspraul> wow
2012-03-22 02:46 <wolfspraul> thanks!
2012-03-22 02:51 <dvdk> hmm, I cannot open .epub files; only .txt files.  maybe some libs still missing
2012-03-22 02:51 <dvdk> but the speech synthesis is talking at least :)
2012-03-22 02:52 <kristianpaul> bte screen is getting white after a while.. let confirm again not been my broke bus..
2012-03-22 02:52 <wolfspraul> oh nice, wait
2012-03-22 02:52 <wolfspraul> you can make the ben read a text aloud to you?
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2012-03-22 02:52 <wolfspraul> I wanted to give this a solid try soon
2012-03-22 02:52 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: check that your battery is charged
2012-03-22 02:53 <wolfspraul> and then check that the fpc from mainboard to lcm is seated well in the connector on the mainboard
2012-03-22 02:53 <wolfspraul> (hopefully there is no problem at the hot-glued connection on the lcm side)
2012-03-22 02:53 <kristianpaul> not my lcm bus.. damn i hate my self for breaking it
2012-03-22 02:54 <dvdk> hmm, which pakcage has zip.h?
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2012-03-22 03:09 <dvdk> night.
2012-03-22 03:12 <wolfspraul> n8
2012-03-22 03:13 <kristianpaul> nice size
2012-03-22 03:13 <kristianpaul> voice a bot robotic but not that bad
2012-03-22 03:15 <kristianpaul> oh, yeah missing gnuplot octave as well..
2012-03-22 03:16 <kristianpaul> links or was elinks..
2012-03-22 03:16 <kristianpaul> ah wait
2012-03-22 03:16 <kristianpaul> nv
2012-03-22 03:17 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: what is the easiest way / command line to have the ben read a text aloud?
2012-03-22 03:18 <wolfspraul> robotic, hmm. I am probably spoilt from some actors recording audio books.
2012-03-22 03:18 <wolfspraul> there's no way software will easily match that in quality.
2012-03-22 03:18 <kristianpaul> bard?
2012-03-22 03:18 <kristianpaul> bard --text some.text
2012-03-22 03:18 <kristianpaul> then pressed s
2012-03-22 03:18 <wolfspraul> cool
2012-03-22 03:54 <kristianpaul> n8
2012-03-22 03:56 <wolfspraul> n8
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2012-03-22 08:55 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: add new folder for m1 Kicad (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/5a5e335
2012-03-22 09:03 <wolfspraul> xiangfu: I think we want to keep the m1 kicad schematics/bom in github
2012-03-22 09:03 <wolfspraul> wait for werner & adam to pick the final location
2012-03-22 09:03 <xiangfu> wolfspraul, yes.
2012-03-22 09:03 <xiangfu> ok
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2012-03-22 11:02 <kristianpaul> Order is being prepared for shipment. !, finally..
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