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2012-03-14 01:38 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: 4th tig byobu calcurse gawk remind taskwarrior: merged in upstream (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/15c8841
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2012-03-14 03:03 <xiangfu> wpwrak, I met a atUsb compile error yesterday: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.minimal-20120313-1636/BUILD_LOG.last100
2012-03-14 03:03 <xiangfu> wpwrak, there is no 'set_irq_chip_data' in v3.2.1 any more 
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2012-03-14 05:13 <whitequark> hm
2012-03-14 05:14 <whitequark> can anyone suggest a nice RTOS for 32-bit CPU with 8k of RAM?
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2012-03-14 07:02 * xiangfu testing the next release: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120313-M/
2012-03-14 07:29 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: stardict: disable the dictionary depends on stardict (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9c746f0
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2012-03-14 07:52 <wpwrak> xiangfu: ah, the dirty hacks are coming back to haunt us ...
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2012-03-14 08:31 <larsc> wpwrak: nah, set_irq_chip_data is just called irq_set_chip_data now
2012-03-14 08:31 <larsc> tlgx did a big namespace cleanup
2012-03-14 08:31 <larsc> tglx
2012-03-14 08:34 <wpwrak> oh, good. thanks !
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2012-03-14 08:46 <xiangfu> larsc, thanks that is why grep give nothing.
2012-03-14 08:47 <whitequark> wpwrak: can you answer a few questions about laser cut cases?
2012-03-14 08:47 <whitequark> or, generally, cnc-machined ones
2012-03-14 08:52 <wpwrak> xiangfu: can you fix this with a patch in the owrt build ? or do you need a change from me "upstream" ? i'm not set up for doing anything with wpan at the moment, even the bens are buried under layers of milkymists and midi devices, so it would be a bit inconvenient for me
2012-03-14 08:53 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: xburst: nanonote: fix atusb compile error (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a4f9460
2012-03-14 08:53 <wpwrak> whitequark: for laser-cutting, you may want roh. for milling, i may be able to help
2012-03-14 08:53 <wpwrak> ah, that commit answered it ;-)
2012-03-14 08:53 <xiangfu> wpwrak, yes. sure. buildhost is busy on compile. :)
2012-03-14 08:53 <wpwrak> great, thanks !
2012-03-14 08:54 <whitequark> wpwrak: well, my questions aren't specific for laser cutting
2012-03-14 09:03 * wpwrak wonders if anything else is coming :)
2012-03-14 09:04 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: cgminer: add include miner.php for web access cgminer (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b9fad49
2012-03-14 09:05 <larsc> wpwrak: I have a few questions regarding missile guidance and though you might know something about it ;)
2012-03-14 09:05 * whitequark has been battling with CAD
2012-03-14 09:05 <whitequark> http://i.imgur.com/pWudu.png
2012-03-14 09:06 <whitequark> e.g. I have this kind of connection
2012-03-14 09:06 <whitequark> and I know that precision of the machine is X mm and the width of cut is Y mm
2012-03-14 09:06 <whitequark> how much margin should I leave for the machine for the details to be connectable yet not too loose?
2012-03-14 09:08 <wpwrak> larsc: fire away ! ;-) and always remember the quantity-vs-quality formula: #missiles = (deviation/blast_radius)^2
2012-03-14 09:09 <whitequark> larsc: what country do you dislike so much?
2012-03-14 09:10 <wpwrak> whitequark: hmm, i usually leave 0.05-0.1 mm between mating parts. but that also depends on the cutting process
2012-03-14 09:10 <whitequark> hm, 0.1mm is the precision of cutting process afaik (well, it depends on the fab and I still don't know what one would I use...)
2012-03-14 09:10 <wpwrak> i.e., you may have to make adjustments when going from (ideal) design to the toolpath
2012-03-14 09:11 <wpwrak> would be be a problem if you had to sand off some plastic (at the interconnecting parts) ?
2012-03-14 09:12 <whitequark> no, it's an one-time, one-part project
2012-03-14 09:12 <wpwrak> then you could even leave no gap
2012-03-14 09:12 <whitequark> sandpaper wins as usual. nice.
2012-03-14 09:12 <wpwrak> it's easy to create a gap by sanding off things. much harder to close one because they're loose. (well, there's always silicone :)
2012-03-14 09:13 <whitequark> oh, silicone is nice. it won't even damage the look (mostly)
2012-03-14 09:13 <whitequark> ok. what about screws?
2012-03-14 09:14 <wpwrak> yes, how will you keep things in place ? :)
2012-03-14 09:14 <whitequark> the image only shows a part of the case
2012-03-14 09:15 <whitequark> it's an M1 case clone. well, it wasn't supposed to be, but turns out that I just followed the easiest path and now I have an M1 case clone
2012-03-14 09:15 <wpwrak> ;-)
2012-03-14 09:16 <whitequark> ah I know. I'll ditch rounded corners and make them 45° cut.
2012-03-14 09:16 <whitequark> then it won't be a clone.
2012-03-14 09:16 <whitequark> also: more BSG-ish look.
2012-03-14 09:17 <wpwrak> good. then roh won't sue you ;-)
2012-03-14 09:17 <whitequark> did he patented the case? :D
2012-03-14 09:17 <wpwrak> roh: see, you didn't have to hire all those laywers from apple vs. samsung after all
2012-03-14 09:18 <whitequark> the funniest thing about apple vs. samsung is that they still use "some" samsung's services
2012-03-14 09:18 <whitequark> for example, CPUs in latest iphone come from samsung
2012-03-14 09:18 <whitequark> which leads me to the conclusion that it's just marketing
2012-03-14 09:19 <xiangfu> what is the the back ground video in those videos: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6E991D77D948B785&feature=plcp. seems not Milkymist One.
2012-03-14 09:19 <wpwrak> oh, i'm sure samsung will comply with all the contracts they've made. in apple's place, i'd worry a lot more about what happens when these contracts end ...
2012-03-14 09:21 <whitequark> ah. sure, contracts. companies are just like children having a grudge one against another, but the former, unlike the latter, have contracts.
2012-03-14 09:27 <larsc> well, samsung != samsung. the samsung thats manufacturing the A5 is probably not the samsung that builds the smartphones
2012-03-14 09:29 <wolfspraul> yes, not the same
2012-03-14 09:29 <wolfspraul> those are all large business units that are managed independently, except for belonging to the same parent group
2012-03-14 09:30 <wolfspraul> 'large' meaning each of those units has thousands of employees
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2012-03-14 09:45 <whitequark> yes
2012-03-14 09:46 <whitequark> but I assume that lawyers don't care because parent company is the same
2012-03-14 09:46 <whitequark> i.e. they share the responsibilites
2012-03-14 09:47 <wolfspraul> lawyers care most that they can send bills for every working hour and every page of written text somewhere
2012-03-14 09:47 <wolfspraul> if that's the case, they will start writing :-)
2012-03-14 09:48 <wolfspraul> and I mean this in a respectful way of course, the legal system is very important imho
2012-03-14 09:49 <wolfspraul> if you see a lawyer doing something you think is 'bad', you better look for who is paying and instructing the lawyer
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2012-03-14 10:20 <larsc> just for the record: for the irq namespace cleanup issue there is a coccinelle script which does a automatic conversion of old code. https://tglx.de/~tglx/genirq-namespace.cocci
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2012-03-14 11:01 <kristianpaul> great !! Takuji Ebinuma  uploaded the namuru-gpl code http://www.sensorcomm.co.jp/osqzss/fpga/namuru/Namuru_GPL.zip !!
2012-03-14 11:01 <kristianpaul> as it is gpl :-)
2012-03-14 11:02 <kristianpaul> and it came with its own documentation as well http://www.dynamics.co.nz/media/DOCUMENTS/SOFTWARE_RELATED/Namuru-GPL-port-06.pdf
2012-03-14 11:02 <kristianpaul> it was forked from osgps btw
2012-03-14 11:03 <kristianpaul> morning too ;)
2012-03-14 11:05 <kristianpaul> why this is great??
2012-03-14 11:05 <kristianpaul> well osgps uses gp2021 registers
2012-03-14 11:05 <kristianpaul> that some how are like namuru one, as it is a clone from above
2012-03-14 11:06 <kristianpaul> but small details.. as always came up, so this port is a must try first on milkymist than the osgps
2012-03-14 11:06 <kristianpaul> s/try/port
2012-03-14 11:06 <qi-bot> kristianpaul meant: "but small details.. as always came up, so this port is a must port first on milkymist than the osgps"
2012-03-14 11:07 <kristianpaul> ok, read you later :)
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2012-03-14 11:26 <whitequark> kristianpaul: were you talking to yourself?..
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2012-03-14 13:30 <kristianpaul> whitequark: no
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2012-03-14 13:45 <kristianpaul> whitequark: no, i was just droppping some words about gps stuff i'm interested and working on
2012-03-14 13:46 <kristianpaul> perhaps some one (like you? ;-)) get interested
2012-03-14 13:46 <kristianpaul> or lindi- :)
2012-03-14 13:46 <kristianpaul> too
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