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2012-03-09 01:03 <qi-bot> The build was FAILED: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120309-0026 
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2012-03-09 02:16 <whitequark> DocScrutinizer: about the GSM modules
2012-03-09 02:16 <whitequark> suddenly, some holidays happened, so I'd probably won't send them this week
2012-03-09 02:18 <whitequark> (pesky holidays. they always get in the way between me and electronics. New Year, then Chinese New Year, then something, then this. :/)
2012-03-09 02:18 <rz2k> no holidays for nerds! :3
2012-03-09 02:19 <whitequark> my schedule isn't significantly affected by holidays nor weekends
2012-03-09 02:19 <whitequark> the fact that others' schedules are sucks.
2012-03-09 02:50 <wolfspraul> whitequark: found this site recently about notebook schematics http://laptop-schematics.com
2012-03-09 03:03 <whitequark> wolfspraul: interesting. a russian site
2012-03-09 03:14 <whitequark> well, it mostly does not work
2012-03-09 03:25 <wolfspraul> what does not work?
2012-03-09 03:30 <whitequark> I've tried to get schematics for several Samsung notebooks
2012-03-09 03:30 <whitequark> none of the ones I've selected worked, both random and those who I have
2012-03-09 03:45 <qi-bot> The build was FAILED: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/building/Nanonote/Ben/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120309-0213 
2012-03-09 03:49 <whitequark> IT HAS FAILED!!111one
2012-03-09 03:53 <rz2k> grammar nazis in da channel
2012-03-09 03:57 <whitequark> er, I didn't even notice the "was"
2012-03-09 03:57 <whitequark> just was joking stupidly on the capitalization
2012-03-09 03:57 * rz2k compromised himself
2012-03-09 03:57 <rz2k> :(
2012-03-09 04:37 <xiangfu> whitequark, it continue compile now. :-) some package fail to build :(
2012-03-09 04:38 <wolfspraul> no worries all fine :-)
2012-03-09 04:38 <wolfspraul> server access is available for anyone who wants to help
2012-03-09 04:49 <whitequark> well, tuxbrain still did not manage to deliver anything
2012-03-09 04:49 <whitequark> so...
2012-03-09 05:01 <wpwrak> whitequark: that FAILED repeated over and over has a touch of this one, doesn't it ? http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=83
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2012-03-09 05:08 <wolfspraul> whitequark: [tuxbrain] we are scramling everywhere. I have writing to you in my todo list, but it keeps slipping from the top, urgh
2012-03-09 05:08 <wolfspraul> just one more thing before...
2012-03-09 05:08 <wolfspraul> :-)
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2012-03-09 06:39 <kyak> i swear it used to be "has FAILED" :)
2012-03-09 06:39 <kyak> http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/qi-hardware_2012-03-06.log.html#t14:26
2012-03-09 06:45 <DocScrutinizer> anybody heard of solar storm that hits us just this moment?
2012-03-09 06:46 <xiangfu> kyak, so the correct is 'has FAILED' not 'was FAILED' ?
2012-03-09 06:46 <kyak> xiangfu: as far as my English grammar skills go, yes :)
2012-03-09 06:47 <xiangfu> ok.
2012-03-09 06:49 <kyak> DocScrutinizer: oh! and i thought i had a headache because of yesterday's party..
2012-03-09 06:49 <DocScrutinizer> hehe, same here, though actually I don't recall any party yesterday
2012-03-09 06:51 <DocScrutinizer> I just heard the storm is almost over and had no negative impact yet on COMSATs or power grids - but it will continue another few hours and may still get worse during that time
2012-03-09 06:51 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: compile-openwrt-xburst.sh: fix English grammar error (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/8eefa4b
2012-03-09 06:52 <DocScrutinizer> the scary part in that sidenote in TV news was that this allegedly been known since 3 days, and I completely missed it
2012-03-09 06:53 <kyak> yeah, i actually heard it several times on TV, even though i watch TV only during breakfast :) it was like top news here
2012-03-09 06:53 <DocScrutinizer> and such an even at least potentially could cause EU wide blackouts
2012-03-09 06:53 <DocScrutinizer> event*
2012-03-09 06:56 <DocScrutinizer> which - for unclear reasons - makes me remember the fact that the sun twice a year(?) passes by exactly behind any arbitrary TV geostationary sat, which usually should cause massive interference in all dishes pointing at that sat and potentially even can fry LNBs
2012-03-09 07:00 <DocScrutinizer> funny coincidence: 1 year Fucku anniversary, nice date for an EU wide blackout
2012-03-09 07:01 <DocScrutinizer> which would also be a nice hard test for all nuclear power plants' powerless shutdown resilience
2012-03-09 07:03 <wpwrak> kyak: "was failed" would be the passive form. like in "several human rights activists were disappeared by the military regime"
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2012-03-09 07:03 <DocScrutinizer> LOL
2012-03-09 07:04 <wpwrak> kyak: so that would suggest some sort of sabotage that breaks our builds. now, combine this with the solar storm and you have a nice conspiracy story ;-)
2012-03-09 07:04 <DocScrutinizer> anyway could somebody kick that job outa the buildqueue please?
2012-03-09 07:05 <DocScrutinizer> seems it's triggered to rebuild and fail each time *anything* builds on the buildhost
2012-03-09 07:07 <DocScrutinizer> or is it that actually somebody adds this job over and over again, and never gets it right?
2012-03-09 07:07 <kyak> wpwrak: haha :)
2012-03-09 07:08 <wpwrak> DocScrutinizer: i think it's just some endless loop. maybe with some rate limit.
2012-03-09 07:09 <kyak> yeah, just an endless loop to build the whole image from scratch.. usually takes mor ethan one day
2012-03-09 07:09 <kyak> but if it fails early, it can become annoying :)
2012-03-09 07:12 <DocScrutinizer> does it make sense to compile that stuff again and again on an automated schedule, until eventually random bittoggles on HDD fix the errors?
2012-03-09 07:14 <kyak> it's supposed that someone will have a look and fix it ocasionally :)
2012-03-09 07:15 <wolfspraul> I fail to see the problem with that 1-line. just ignore the bot if you don't like it, but there are definitely people interested in regularly maintained and updated nanonote and milkymist software.
2012-03-09 07:15 <wolfspraul> maybe we can remove some redundancy?
2012-03-09 07:15 <DocScrutinizer> give me the URL and ssh credentials, I know the 2-letter cmd to fix it ;-)
2012-03-09 07:15 <DocScrutinizer> rm
2012-03-09 07:15 <wolfspraul> you don't use a nanonote and don't care about software updates for it
2012-03-09 07:16 <wolfspraul> that could explain your impatience with those log lines :-)
2012-03-09 07:16 <kyak> yeah, i'm also with the 1 line.. you can add the "Has FAILED" pattern to your IRC client, if you wish
2012-03-09 07:16 <kyak> s/also/also fine
2012-03-09 07:16 <qi-bot> kyak meant: "yeah, i'm also fine with the 1 line.. you can add the "Has FAILED" pattern to your IRC client, if you wish"
2012-03-09 07:16 <DocScrutinizer> I'm just concerned about the abstract waste of time and resources to build the obviously unchanged package over and over again
2012-03-09 07:17 <wolfspraul> that i agree with, if there is redundancy/noise, we should improve that
2012-03-09 07:17 <DocScrutinizer> that doesn't feel right
2012-03-09 07:17 <kyak> this is perhaps a good idea. the build bot should check if the repo has changed and it makes sense to rebuild
2012-03-09 07:17 <wolfspraul> but I think xiangfu is actively working on a new ben image right now, with testing, rebuilds, etc.
2012-03-09 07:17 <DocScrutinizer> indeed
2012-03-09 07:17 <wolfspraul> kyak: yes but I think that may already be the case
2012-03-09 07:18 <wolfspraul> but if not - yes, fully agree
2012-03-09 07:18 <xiangfu> kyak, (check repo) not in nanonote image build.
2012-03-09 07:18 <kyak> xiangfu: do you think it can be easily done, while you are on it? (check if the repo has changed since last FAILED build)
2012-03-09 07:19 <xiangfu> kyak, since the upstream package change every day.
2012-03-09 07:19 <DocScrutinizer> isn't it as simple as "rm /build-this" ?
2012-03-09 07:19 <xiangfu> kyak, that is easy. I already done that in milkymist stuff build (milkymist have 10 repos to check :)
2012-03-09 07:19 <DocScrutinizer> and ">build-this" when you edit something
2012-03-09 07:20 <xiangfu> DocScrutinizer, you mean disable/enable the build?
2012-03-09 07:20 <DocScrutinizer> yes
2012-03-09 07:20 <xiangfu> I am done that by a 'compile.sh'
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2012-03-09 07:21 <xiangfu> DocScrutinizer, : http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/compile.sh
2012-03-09 07:21 <xiangfu> DocScrutinizer, comment lines means disable :)
2012-03-09 07:22 <xiangfu> once I found a good openwrt package svn revision. I will stick to that revision for release. then debug the error for our side. 
2012-03-09 07:22 <DocScrutinizer> well, that isn't disabling the build once the compiler barfed up on it
2012-03-09 07:22 <DocScrutinizer> the "rm /build-this" was meant to be done by the buoldhost automatically
2012-03-09 07:24 <DocScrutinizer> and you even could do the "touch /build-this" by inotifywatch or inotifywait (dunno which of both is the more suited one)
2012-03-09 07:24 <xiangfu> kyak, http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/compile-openwrt-milkymist.sh this file have the code that check if there new commit. we can just use that one for openwrt-xburst.
2012-03-09 07:25 <DocScrutinizer> or you actually use "find /$buildpackage -cnewer /$buildpackage/last-built"
2012-03-09 07:28 <xiangfu> ( that isn't disabling the build once the compiler barfed up on it) yes. don't have that feature 
2012-03-09 07:28 <DocScrutinizer> if find /$buildpackage -cnewer /$buildpackage/last-built; then build-it; else echo "nothing changed in $buildpackage since last build, skipping"; fi;
2012-03-09 07:28 <xiangfu> and it's hard to kill all process if the build already start. every time I have to manually to that by using htop
2012-03-09 07:32 <DocScrutinizer> if find /$buildpackage -cnewer /$buildpackage/last-built >/$buildpkg/changed-files; then echo "either those files changed: $(cat /$buildpkg/changed-files) or pkg never been built or compiler missed to create /$buildpkg/last-built tagfile. Building now"; build-it; else echo "nothing changed in $buildpackage since last build, skipping"; fi;
2012-03-09 07:33 <xiangfu> every build we want start from scratch. 
2012-03-09 07:33 <DocScrutinizer> sure, it does
2012-03-09 07:33 <DocScrutinizer> depending on what you do in build-it
2012-03-09 07:34 <DocScrutinizer> it just doesn't start at all if there's already been a build that created the tagfile by "touch ./last-built" abd no file in the package changed since then
2012-03-09 07:35 <DocScrutinizer> obviously you want to touch ./last-built *after* the compiler created any new logfiles, *.o and whatnot else
2012-03-09 07:36 <xiangfu> what is the different on compare svn revision of openwrt packages repo?
2012-03-09 07:36 <DocScrutinizer> I.E. add "touch last-built" as very last line of your build-it job 
2012-03-09 07:37 <xiangfu> if there is new commit rebuild from scratch.  that is simple for me :-)
2012-03-09 07:37 <DocScrutinizer> meh
2012-03-09 07:38 <DocScrutinizer> quite obviously there's been no new commit for that openwrt pkg for the last few days
2012-03-09 07:38 <DocScrutinizer> yet it's rebuilt every day it seems
2012-03-09 07:39 <DocScrutinizer> the above sketched two shellscript lines would deal with that in a very convenient manner
2012-03-09 07:40 <DocScrutinizer> wait, you can make that one line, in one place:
2012-03-09 07:41 <DocScrutinizer> if find /$buildpackage -cnewer /$buildpackage/last-built >/$buildpkg/changed-files; then echo "either those files changed: $(cat /$buildpkg/changed-files) or pkg never been built or compiler missed to create /$buildpkg/last-built tagfile. Building now"; build-it; touch /$buildpkg/last-built; else echo "nothing changed in $buildpackage since last build, skipping"; fi;
2012-03-09 07:42 <DocScrutinizer> whatever build-it is for you, I guess it's the command that shall execute one line out of http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/compile-openwrt-milkymist.sh
2012-03-09 07:42 <DocScrutinizer> ooh, not really
2012-03-09 07:43 <DocScrutinizer> err, what, did that file change?
2012-03-09 07:43 <DocScrutinizer> aah no, I meant http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/compile.sh
2012-03-09 07:47 <xiangfu> confuse :-). $buildpackage you mean openwrt package svn repo? 
2012-03-09 07:47 <DocScrutinizer> aah, I see I missed your comment about the http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/compile-openwrt-milkymist.sh. Yeah it checks if new version exists in git
2012-03-09 07:48 <xiangfu> DocScrutinizer, yes. that one have new commit check. but compile-openwrt-xburst.sh don't have and I don't have plan add it :-)
2012-03-09 07:48 <xiangfu> the step I work on nanonote is : 1. make sure the kernel compilef ine. 2. leave all other build to buildhost. 
2012-03-09 07:49 <DocScrutinizer> well, I didn't even think of git, I just thought of some structure where a master script parses across a couple of $builpkg directories in something like /var/sources/all-packages/*
2012-03-09 07:53 <DocScrutinizer> #!/bin/sh\n #this is the master script that gets invoked once a day e.g. by cron\n  \n  cd /var/sources/all-packages; for buildpkg in *; do if find /$buildpackage -cnewer /$buildpackage/last-built >/$buildpkg/changed-files; then echo "either those files changed: $(cat /$buildpkg/changed-files) or pkg never been built or compiler missed to create /$buildpkg/last-built tagfile. Building now"; build-it; touch /$buildpkg/last-built; else 
2012-03-09 07:53 <DocScrutinizer> echo "nothing changed in $buildpackage since last build, skipping"; fi; done
2012-03-09 08:00 <DocScrutinizer> umm
2012-03-09 08:07 <DocScrutinizer> #!/bin/sh\n #this is the master script that gets invoked once a day e.g. by cron\n  \n  cd /var/sources/all-packages; mkdir ../build-date; for buildpkg in *; do if find ./$buildpkg -cnewer ../build-date/$buildpackage >/tmp/${buildpkg}-changed-files; then echo "either those files changed: $(cat /tmp/${buildpkg}-changed-files) or pkg never been built or compile-job missed to create $(pwd)/../build-date/$buildpackage tagfile. Building 
2012-03-09 08:07 <DocScrutinizer> now"; build-it $buildpkg; touch ../build-date/$buildpkg ; else echo "nothing changed in $buildpkg since last build, skipping"; fi; done
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2012-03-09 08:10 <DocScrutinizer> of course you have to check what find does when file referenced in -cnewer <file> doesn't exist
2012-03-09 08:10 <DocScrutinizer> o/, daywork (WinXP :-S )
2012-03-09 08:11 <xiangfu>  if the $buildpackage mean openwrt package svn repo. that repo delete and checkout from scratch in every build.
2012-03-09 08:11 <DocScrutinizer> ouch
2012-03-09 08:11 <xiangfu> WinXP. there is Win 8 now. :-)
2012-03-09 08:12 <DocScrutinizer> well, that tells sth about confidence of big companies in that new crap from Redmond
2012-03-09 08:12 <xiangfu> DocScrutinizer, the openwrt make distclean , delete everything. include all package source(Makefiles)
2012-03-09 08:13 <DocScrutinizer> yeah, but only if HEAD != $whatever, AIUI your script. You could touch ../build-date/$packagename in that case
2012-03-09 08:14 <DocScrutinizer> anyway, my suggestion wasn't meant for git based infra. So nevermind
2012-03-09 08:15 <xiangfu> I have saved your script to my memo folder just in case :-)
2012-03-09 08:15 <DocScrutinizer> HEAD_OLD=`cat ${IMAGES_DIR}/../openwrt-HEAD`
2012-03-09 08:15 <DocScrutinizer> if [ "${HEAD_NEW}" == "${HEAD_OLD}" ]; then
2012-03-09 08:15 <DocScrutinizer> 	echo "No new commit, ignore build"
2012-03-09 08:16 <xiangfu> yes.
2012-03-09 08:16 <DocScrutinizer> should be done like that for all pkg 
2012-03-09 08:17 <lindi-> be careful with "==". does that work with dash?
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2012-03-09 08:17 <DocScrutinizer> o/, now for real, already late
2012-03-09 08:23 <xiangfu> !tweet @milkymistvj  New video on DJ + Milkymist One : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DcY83OP6h0&feature=youtu.be
2012-03-09 08:23 <qi-bot>  Tweet created: http://twitter.com/qihardware
2012-03-09 08:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: flite: update to 1.5.5 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1a751fb
2012-03-09 08:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu: bard: udpate to 0.7 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/20b0b77
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2012-03-09 13:44 <xiangfu> wpwrak, you code on WPAN work out of box in linux v3.2.1. 
2012-03-09 13:44 <xiangfu> wpwrak, no luck on ks7010. everytime update kernel. have to modify ks7010 driver. 
2012-03-09 13:46 <viric> what is ks7010?
2012-03-09 13:49 <wolfspraul> viric: history :-)
2012-03-09 13:49 <kristian1aul> that one started tuesday?
2012-03-09 13:49 <kristian1aul> oops
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2012-03-09 13:51 <wpwrak> (wpan working out of the box)  yippee! :)
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2012-03-09 13:56 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: testing last image build? :-)
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2012-03-09 14:09 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: just commenting on what xiangfu wrote
2012-03-09 14:09 <wolfspraul> we should officially drop ks7010 support and focus on ben-wpan, we just don't have the resources for ks7010 and it's a dead-end
2012-03-09 14:10 <wolfspraul> unless an avid ks7010 user speaks up...
2012-03-09 14:10 <wolfspraul> let me know, I'll read the backlog to face the ks7010 uprising :-)
2012-03-09 14:10 <wolfspraul> n8
2012-03-09 14:12 <xiangfu> my plan is will try 1 or 2 hours to fix the ks7010. if no luck. will stop working on that. keep test image. :-)
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2012-03-09 15:41 <qi-bot> Jon Phillips: Via @qihardware qihardware: @milkymistvj <xiangfu>  New video on DJ + Milkymist One : http://t.co/p9FmV9Yi http://t.co/JbzOl2MY ( 178143337440747520@rejon - 5s ago via Ping.fm )
2012-03-09 17:20 <viric> xiangfu: 
2012-03-09 17:20 <viric> I can't build xbursttools...
2012-03-09 17:20 <viric> Can you check http://hydra.nixos.org/build/2261269 ?
2012-03-09 17:21 <viric> libusb should be there
2012-03-09 17:21 <viric> ah, 0.1.12.
2012-03-09 17:21 <viric> 1.0.0!? ok!
2012-03-09 17:21 <viric> what an outdated libusb we have..
2012-03-09 17:23 <viric> thank you for your help! ;)
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2012-03-09 18:33 <kristianpaul> from Takuji Ebinuma http://www.dynamics.co.nz/media/DOCUMENTS/SOFTWARE_RELATED/Namuru-GPL-port-06.pdf
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2012-03-09 19:49 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1r4/dsv/: updated for Adam's "official" BOM (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/b2954b6
2012-03-09 19:49 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1r4/dsv/milkymist_one_bom_r4.csv: removed duplicate C19 and C21 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/75509e5
2012-03-09 19:49 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:wernermisc (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/81078fc
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2012-03-09 20:58 <whitequark> viric: 1.0.0 is like 4 years old already
2012-03-09 20:59 <whitequark> but there's really nothing to add
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