2012-02-23 00:15 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 00:28 valhalla_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 00:28 unclouded has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 00:28 mth has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 00:28 wpwrak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 00:39 n8 2012-02-23 00:44 n8 2012-02-23 00:45 What about using the head phone socket to drive a vibrator? 2012-02-23 00:47 that would be the first step into 'major hacking' that I mentioned :-) 2012-02-23 00:47 I don't know, have to try. Surely eventually it's possible, if someone tries hard enough. 2012-02-23 00:48 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 00:48 Got a lot to lean first then. so much for spoon feeding :D 2012-02-23 00:49 Ant some leds on the nano note? 2012-02-23 00:50 ant there 2012-02-23 00:51 there is only the charging led which afaik is not software controllable 2012-02-23 00:53 darn 2012-02-23 00:54 any ideas? 2012-02-23 01:02 what idea? 2012-02-23 01:02 if you like lots of leds, check out the upcoming R4 revision of Milkymist One :-) 2012-02-23 01:02 I think we are at 18 or so... 2012-02-23 01:03 the Ben NanoNote is a nice integrated pocket computer, the main thing it has going for it is a lot of high quality free software 2012-02-23 01:04 so don't know. if the vibrator is very important for you, either you see the Ben as your hacking base and have fun to get it going, or you find another starting point, maybe something that has a vibrator already? 2012-02-23 01:11 you see what I want is a pocket computer that is 100% FOSS. that can do things like appointments reminders, alarms, view images, video, music, notes, address book, etc. that does not cost £500 unlike the open meko gta04. I was thinking I will probably want a vibrator to help me not miss a alarm,reminder,etc when it is in my pocket. I was wondering what else there was inside for one to try and connect a vibrator too and if you had knowledge 2012-02-23 01:13 getting a smart phone like the geeks phone zero is not ideal because they have, what? A 2-3 year life span due to the non-free drivers. :( 2012-02-23 01:15 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 01:15 wolfspraul: (led) hey ! did you forget ben-blinkenlights ? :) 2012-02-23 01:17 www.almesberger.net/misc/ben/blink.ogg 2012-02-23 01:19 thanks 2012-02-23 01:19 though that would me no sd card :( 2012-02-23 01:20 abushcrafterforg: just start somewhere. too much planning is no fun. 2012-02-23 01:20 yea it is a start 2012-02-23 01:23 Just watch the vid. gets me thinking of fun pyro detonator project 2012-02-23 01:24 orsonzhai has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 01:25 ;-) 2012-02-23 01:34 2012-02-23 01:35 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 02:16 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 02:33 orsonzhai has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 03:36 Jon Phillips: Via @qihardware qihardware: RT @fabricatorz: Welcome to the new era. We build strong software, hardware, and communi... http://t.co/DGTAYVtx ( 172525059230011392@rejon - 6s ago via Ping.fm ) 2012-02-23 03:41 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 03:47 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 04:04 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: fix typo (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/467b78e 2012-02-23 04:31 * zenlunatic 's bnn is in his state 2012-02-23 05:55 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 06:34 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 07:14 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 07:52 are there plans to change the boot logo in the next release for the NanoNote? 2012-02-23 07:53 unclouded, no. 2012-02-23 07:53 unclouded, do you have any advice? :) 2012-02-23 07:54 tuxbrain finally sent my order 2012-02-23 07:54 if it's not going to change then I was thinking of re-doing the OpenWrt powered so it's anti-aliased and then adjusting the whole image for the NanoNote's delta pixels 2012-02-23 07:54 in 3 days I'd have NN and 6lowpan hw 2012-02-23 07:55 unclouded, sounds great. 2012-02-23 07:56 whitequark, cool. how many ben-wpan you bought? 2012-02-23 08:02 * Doc_No_ACTA_zer idly wonders what might be >>open meko gta04<< 2012-02-23 08:04 I gather abushcrafterfrog meant Goldelico OpenPhoenux GTA04 2012-02-23 08:05 aren't there a number of testpoints in NN that easily can control a vib driver? 2012-02-23 08:06 xiangfu: 2 atben and 1 atusb 2012-02-23 08:06 whitequark, cool. 2012-02-23 08:07 I plan to make them 'FOSS RF modules'. I already have some on nRF24L01+, but these have a proprietary air protocol 2012-02-23 08:07 which sucks at least because it's vendor lock-in 2012-02-23 08:07 Doc_No_ACTA_zer, there is a buzzy in nanonote. maybe you can re-use that? 2012-02-23 08:07 sure 2012-02-23 08:08 Doc_No_ACTA_zer, yes. then you maybe just remove the buzzy. and connect it to your vib. 2012-02-23 08:08 Doc_No_ACTA_zer, you can try to change that direct by using /proc, I guess 2012-02-23 08:08 given the idea that a buzzer usually shouldn't operate on DC... 2012-02-23 08:08 yunfan has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 08:09 just add some stupid 'electronics' that start to operate vib when buzzer has high level for >0.1s 2012-02-23 08:09 xiangfu: jz4740千颗批发价多少？ 2012-02-23 08:10 whitequark, yes. I recently bought a router that have a usb host. and openwrt support it well. so I may have a wpan-router for ben nanonote :) 2012-02-23 08:11 yunfan, I don't know. (please use English :D). you can just direct call ingenic :) 2012-02-23 08:11 xiangfu: i bought one that have that features 2 years ago 2012-02-23 08:11 xiangfu: but honestly (as I have no schematics at my hands right now) - aren't there quite a number of unused or redefine'able GPIO available on NN? 2012-02-23 08:11 xiangfu: and they increase the ram from 8MB to 64MB 2012-02-23 08:12 which has a broadcom bcm43xx init 2012-02-23 08:12 xiangfu: i have sent mail to them before, no response 2012-02-23 08:12 xiangfu: how complete wpan stack is? 2012-02-23 08:13 xiangfu: heard that atom e600c has a fpga unit , 2012-02-23 08:14 Doc_No_ACTA_zer, http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/9/9c/Lb60_schematic.pdf 2012-02-23 08:15 whitequark, wpan I don't know the detail. should ask wpwrak, 2012-02-23 08:18 whitequark, wpan you mean the 802.15.4? 2012-02-23 08:20 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-xburst/source/tree/master/target give some error. :( 2012-02-23 08:20 same error with: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/source/tree/master/ 2012-02-23 08:22 xiangfu: on very first glance I spot TP5/TDO/UART0_TXD 2012-02-23 08:24 xiangfu: next spotting: dual-use WAKEUP_N to start vib when pulled to low level 2012-02-23 08:25 obviously the pin is 2nd-function on SOC, with prinary function PD29 2012-02-23 08:25 so program it to GPIO output low and off goes your vib 2012-02-23 08:26 side effect: vib starts on pushing wake button, I think that's tolerable 2012-02-23 08:26 s/wake/ONOFFK/ 2012-02-23 08:26 Doc_No_ACTA_zer meant: "side effect: vib starts on pushing ONOFFK button, I think that's tolerable" 2012-02-23 08:29 if not: do the pulsing trick - use a AC detector (as easy as a capacitor and diode) and pulse PD29 with some 100Hz to start vib 2012-02-23 08:30 xiangfu: yes 2012-02-23 08:30 roh: also, I must admit that you're completely right in your opinion about Arduino and stuff 2012-02-23 08:30 xiangfu: is there a higher-def source for the Ben logo? the text looks great but the logo actually looks worse 2012-02-23 08:31 whitequark, if you have openwrt-xburst.git you can check the openwrt-xburst/target/linux/xburst/patches-3.0/0031-first-patch-for-atBen.patch 2012-02-23 08:31 unclouded, wait. let me check. 2012-02-23 08:35 unclouded, found that: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Press_and_marketing_material 2012-02-23 08:35 TP38/GPD15 2012-02-23 08:36 completely unused 2012-02-23 08:36 add a FET and vib with clamp diode 2012-02-23 08:36 maybe plus a 10nF C 2012-02-23 08:37 xiangfu: cheers! 2012-02-23 08:38 TP36/36 2012-02-23 08:51 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 09:11 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 09:11 Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 09:11 Ofpo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 09:18 xiangfu: ah ok, I'll install that when my ben will arrive 2012-02-23 09:21 jow_laptop has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 09:37 DocScrutinizer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 09:45 whitequark, the latest image support wpan out of box. 2012-02-23 09:46 whitequark, yes. install the latest image will be good. 2012-02-23 09:48 pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:09 mstevens has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:20 newcup has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:21 indistylo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:24 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:32 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:34 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:35 antoniodariush has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 10:39 whitequark: the stack is still quite basic. you can have haven't done anything there in a long time :-( 2012-02-23 10:48 jivs has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 11:07 xiangfu: see what you think of this for a boot logo: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/unclouded/logo_nanonote_clut224.pnm 2012-02-23 11:12 unclouded, one little thing. 2012-02-23 11:13 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 11:13 unclouded, if you use the Chinese. I would advice same one that on nanonote. (at the top of the lcd there is a 本 NanoNoe) 2012-02-23 11:14 unclouded, what do you think? 2012-02-23 11:38 wpwrak: if the network/transport layers work, it's fine for me 2012-02-23 11:38 otherwise I should make them work. 2012-02-23 11:43 kuribas has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 11:44 wolfspra1l has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 11:44 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 12:06 whitequark: there's a very primitive (and non-standard) IPv4 support. 2012-02-23 12:27 wpwrak: I don't need IPv4 actually 2012-02-23 12:27 I think I want 6lowpan 2012-02-23 12:28 or (maybe; if 6lowpan would have some fatal deficiency) a simpler proto 2012-02-23 12:48 then you'll have to investigate into getting a kernel with more recent 6lowpan support. there has been some work in this direction lately. and the device drivers should not be affected. or at least only marginally. 2012-02-23 12:53 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 13:04 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 13:29 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 13:37 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 13:57 ab5tract has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 13:59 wpwrak: thanks, I'll look into it 2012-02-23 13:59 is atusb supported on the stock kernel? 2012-02-23 14:28 whitequark, it's under qi-kernel.git 'ben-wpan' branch. (http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/) 2012-02-23 14:29 whitequark, too bad. can't open the branch link. give 2012-02-23 14:49 paroneayea has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 15:33 whitequark: (stock kernel) no, you need to build your own. not sure if anything substantial of wpan support is upstream yet. last time i checked, it was just some stubs. 2012-02-23 15:42 antgreen has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 15:42 wpwrak: ah ok. I can do that :) 2012-02-23 15:42 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 15:48 emeb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 16:04 GNUtoo|laptop has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 16:19 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 16:52 indistylo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 16:55 antoniodariush has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 16:57 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 17:13 zenlunatic has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 17:20 the openwrt BNN wiki page is blank... just fyi 2012-02-23 17:20 or rather openwrt's wiki page of BNN 2012-02-23 17:30 urandom__ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 17:42 abushcrafterforg has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 17:54 indistylo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 18:02 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 18:55 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 19:21 mstevens has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 19:28 jivs has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 19:37 unclouded has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 21:07 jivs has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 21:39 uwe_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 21:48 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 21:51 kuribas has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 22:17 jivs has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-23 23:24 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware