2012-02-22 00:02 whitequark: http://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.pennystore/joerg900.10188 2012-02-22 00:02 emeb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:05 there is a way to unblock a locked fb session on NN? 2012-02-22 00:05 precisely, I lost my terminal on NN, but I can operate via usb ethernet 2012-02-22 00:09 kudkudyak1 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:11 kudkudyak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:12 geza: gmenu2x has some code which does just that 2012-02-22 00:15 ayla: the keyboard is absolutely irresponsible 2012-02-22 00:15 ayla: I have only contact via usb 2012-02-22 00:15 then telnet and launch gmenu2x 2012-02-22 00:15 provided you have it, and it's not too old 2012-02-22 00:24 kudkudyak has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:25 panda|x201 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:26 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:46 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 00:59 unclouded has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 01:04 so mpd only supports wav? 2012-02-22 01:04 mpd does .mp3 format for me. 2012-02-22 01:05 but that's on an ubuntu x86 system. the version for ben might not have proprietary codecs compiled in... 2012-02-22 01:08 vorbis? 2012-02-22 01:12 I couldn't get the stock mpd in the latest image to scan any .ogg files in to its database although maybe I was doing something wrong. I wrote up some of what I found here: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Mpd 2012-02-22 01:14 fun 2012-02-22 01:14 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 01:17 the short version is that you can definitely get .ogg files playing if you build your own mpd. or you can grab this one: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/unclouded/mpd-mini_0.16.5-2_xburst.ipk 2012-02-22 01:18 you'll still need to patch the init file as described on the Mpd wiki page 2012-02-22 01:23 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 01:27 superb. mpd can read track titles from vorbis comments 2012-02-22 01:39 cool. didn't get a bnn to work out of the box 2012-02-22 01:40 probably when people ask me why i bought it, I'll just say "to learn" 2012-02-22 01:42 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 01:44 As far as I know, the BNN intentionally shuns any non-open standards, so there is intentionally no MP3 support as far as I know in the official image. This was a hot topic a while ago and might have changes since. 2012-02-22 01:45 indeed. sorry if there's .mp3 support in that .ipk I posted earlier. I'm using .oggs with it, which I'm assuming are ok? 2012-02-22 02:04 erikkugel: no changes 2012-02-22 02:05 we want and need to keep this tainted stuff out, have to focus on the future 2012-02-22 02:05 once the mp3 patents have safely expired, I am open minded to including it, of course 2012-02-22 02:06 unclouded: please don't worry, we are doing a fair job of keeping this out practically, and you can and should feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and to help others. enough is enough. 2012-02-22 02:06 we won't let them ruin our happiness, right? :-) 2012-02-22 02:07 once in a while I go through the downloads server, chat logs etc. and remove everything that looks like mp3 :-) 2012-02-22 02:07 rejon has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 02:07 I'm listening to beautiful music right now, stored in a free format but the format discussion is really silly, brought to us by greed nothing else. it will go away... 2012-02-22 02:08 my take on this 2012-02-22 02:08 it didn't even occur to me that my .ipk could expose you to liability. I'll find out for sure if it has .mp3 support and remove it if so 2012-02-22 02:10 but please relax, I think we have a good culture here 2012-02-22 02:10 we remove this tainted crap so we can focus on the good stuff 2012-02-22 02:10 and eventually the patents expire, then life is good :-) 2012-02-22 02:10 * zenlunatic hands out beers 2012-02-22 02:11 all over the world some people have nothing better to do than to invent parasitic business model, I think that will always stay with us 2012-02-22 02:11 they come and go. mostly they don't really enjoy what they do, so it's temporary... 2012-02-22 02:11 ok, I've checked the .ipk and there's no .mp3 support in there, at least putting an mp3 in music_dir and doing a rescan won't convince mpd that the mp3 exists 2012-02-22 02:12 relax :-) 2012-02-22 02:12 glad to hear I'm still on top of our policies :) 2012-02-22 02:51 xiangfu has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 03:02 Invader has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 03:47 has something changed with ubiattach? I'm trying to mount my old NAND data partition and I do "ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m 3" and it says "cannot attach mtd3" "error 22 (Invalid argument)" 2012-02-22 03:54 * zenlunatic 's BNN has shipped 2012-02-22 04:00 unclouded, are you using latest image? 2012-02-22 04:01 /etc/VERSION says 2011-11-13 2012-02-22 04:07 pabs3 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 04:09 mtd3 would have been formatted with the 2011-02-23 release though, if that makes any difference 2012-02-22 04:22 wolfspraul has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 04:28 DocScrutinizer: ahh, _this_ kind of RFID 2012-02-22 04:28 I never heard these things called "RFID"s 2012-02-22 04:29 unclouded, if there is no data important. you can try format again. 2012-02-22 04:29 and, erm, aren't they simple LC circuits? at least the ones I have disassembled quite certainly were (through I'm not definitely sure) 2012-02-22 04:29 unclouded, I used mtd3 for long time. in every release test. 2012-02-22 04:29 unclouded, so far so good. :) 2012-02-22 04:30 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 04:30 xiangfu, I can't really remember what data is on it, so I don't know for sure that I don't mind losing it 2012-02-22 04:34 unclouded, what is the dmesg output? 2012-02-22 04:37 xiangfu, I didn't think to look before. it's: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/unclouded/ubi-dmesg.txt 2012-02-22 04:39 unclouded, there is '(ECC error' 2012-02-22 04:39 unclouded, I think you just format the mtd3 :) 2012-02-22 04:39 yes, I saw that. only a single result from the search engine regarding that error 2012-02-22 04:40 http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2008-April/021245.html 2012-02-22 04:41 and their conclusion was that it was simply worn out, which is weird because I barely used that data partition 2012-02-22 04:42 so I'll format mtd3 after all 2012-02-22 04:45 unclouded, there is a 'mtd.nn' command for easy format and mount 2012-02-22 04:45 xiangfu, I'm looking at that right now 2012-02-22 04:46 and I'm wondering why the "-s" option to ubimkvol? does it not use the whole partition by default? ubimkvol --help doesn't explain 2012-02-22 04:47 ( it says "-s" is optional) 2012-02-22 04:47 erikkugel has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 05:05 erikkugel1 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 05:32 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 05:38 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 05:51 Ofpo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 05:51 Openfree` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 06:02 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 06:19 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 07:03 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 07:08 invader has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 07:49 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 08:09 ankitb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 08:42 rz2k_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 09:29 ankitb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 09:35 DocScrutinizer has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 10:03 ankitb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 10:38 mstevens has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 10:48 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 10:54 jluis has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 11:11 jivs has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 11:12 puh, openscad.org is packaged neither in Debian nor Fedora 2012-02-22 11:13 seems that we are working on the cutting edge :-) 2012-02-22 11:14 wolfspraul: is it possible that openscad used to be problematic as far as licensing is concerned? I believe I have seen a mail on it a few days ago on some debian mailing list (regarding the resolution of said problems) 2012-02-22 11:14 (checking in a few minutes) 2012-02-22 11:15 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 11:16 wolfspraul: I too remember that openscad had a licensing issue 2012-02-22 11:27 confirmed: it was mentioned on debian-mentors, and claimed that the licensing issues had been fixed 2012-02-22 11:30 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 11:43 wolfspraul: this is the email http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/02/msg00491.html 2012-02-22 11:51 ornotermes has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 12:12 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 12:17 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 12:17 paroneay` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 12:23 nice, thanks! 2012-02-22 12:23 but seems there's still no package? 2012-02-22 12:24 ankitb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 12:51 cladamw has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 13:26 ankitb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 13:34 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 14:10 paroneayea has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 14:30 erikkugel1 has quit [#qi-hardware] 2012-02-22 15:13 zenlunatic has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 15:31 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 15:43 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 15:50 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 15:50 emeb has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 15:51 urandom__ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 16:08 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 16:15 hmm, sounds like a heliport around here today. there was a train crash this morning. and helicopters are still coming and going. 2012-02-22 16:18 mstevens has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 16:22 kuribas has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 16:24 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 16:42 kilae has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 16:56 antgreen` has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 17:16 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 17:19 FrankBlues has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 17:22 wpwrak: I read in the newspaaper.. 2012-02-22 17:26 Freemor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 17:26 Freemor has quit [#qi-hardware] 2012-02-22 17:33 wolfspraul: there is a package, but it is still missing a debian developer to check and upload it 2012-02-22 18:58 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 19:09 GNUtoo|laptop has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 19:34 mstevens has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 20:10 jekhor has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 20:30 unclouded has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 21:31 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 21:45 indistylo has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 21:52 Folks , Please suggest where to locate this directory modemmanager/sms-send.py file , i have already installed modemmanager, but not able to locate sms-send.py 2012-02-22 21:59 LunaVorax has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 22:22 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:08 abushcrafterforg has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:10 Ayla has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:14 wpwrak: OUCH, 49 dead, 600 injured 2012-02-22 23:15 made it to the prime time TV news here 2012-02-22 23:18 How loud is the speaker? Will I hear/feel it in my pocket even in a noisy env? Is it possible to add a vibrator like the ones in mobile phones to the nano note and still be able to have a SD card in the SD card slot? 2012-02-22 23:19 vibrator will be hard unless you do major hacking 2012-02-22 23:19 the speakers are loud but 'noisy environment' can still drown it out of course, depends on how noisy it is 2012-02-22 23:23 Doc_No_ACTA_zer: yeah, pretty bad. train accidents tend to be nasty. i wonder what caused it. the train just came from maintenance, so in theory it should have been in good shape 2012-02-22 23:24 lawn mower, a road, moter way 2012-02-22 23:25 A road as in catagory of road in the uk 2012-02-22 23:26 I can solder well. but evey thing else I am newbie. Dad knows what he is doing. 2012-02-22 23:27 wpwrak: it went off the rail? 2012-02-22 23:27 didn't watch the TV 2012-02-22 23:37 Ayla: it didn't brake and crashed into the head station at i think 26 km/h. 2012-02-22 23:37 wow, ok 2012-02-22 23:38 wpwrak: here they said that brake defect is the suspected cause 2012-02-22 23:39 maybe stating ethanol induced human failure is a bit too embarrassing? Anyway the train ran on a stop block with full speed 2012-02-22 23:41 Doc_No_ACTA_zer: seems the most likely explanation. they have the black boxes, so they should be able to see what the driver did 2012-02-22 23:42 well, they also should have double failsafe fallback brakes, and deadman switches 2012-02-22 23:42 it would be a bit of an unusual day for drunkenness. we just had a long weekend (monday was a holiday), so the hangover accidents should have happened yesterday 2012-02-22 23:42 thanksfully it was not a high-speed train 2012-02-22 23:43 there may not have been enough time for the deadman switch to react. that train probably stopped the last time just 1-2 km before. (not entirely sure - there are some on that line that have fewer stops) 2012-02-22 23:43 wej has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:45 Ayla: even commuter trains can go fast. e.g., the famous train crash in paris in 1988 (56 dead, 57 injured) was also with a commuter train. that one accelerated to 70 km/h. 2012-02-22 23:47 this makes me wonder what would happen with a train that goes around ~350km/h at the cruise speed 2012-02-22 23:48 at such a speed, the train would probably have overrun the buffer. there's probably quite a lot of people inside the station (i've never been inside). and there's a busy avenue right afterwards, with lots of people right outside of the station. 2012-02-22 23:48 zedstar_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:48 jow_lapt1p has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:49 Ayla: that was what express trains did a bit more than a century ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Train_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.jpg 2012-02-22 23:50 ok, I didn't know that one 2012-02-22 23:50 C-Keen_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:51 valhalla_ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:53 rozzin1 has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:53 ah wait ... yesterday was a holiday, too. didn't even realize :) 2012-02-22 23:54 so yes, maybe there is something to the hangover theory 2012-02-22 23:55 urandom__ has joined #qi-hardware 2012-02-22 23:58 the minister of transportation helpfully pointed out that, if it had happened on yesterday's holiday, it would have been less severe. 2012-02-22 23:58 and, even better, that it's the kind of accident you read about often in the news. 2012-02-22 23:59 sometimes, i'm just baffled by the brilliance of our politicians 2012-02-22 23:59 :)