2012-01-24 00:00 <ezdagor> Where do I get an "official" tarball?
2012-01-24 00:00 <wej> from my website: http://wejp.k.vu/projects/gmu
2012-01-24 00:01 <Ayla> wej, you lost your 'p'?
2012-01-24 00:03 <wej> hehe, yeah ^^
2012-01-24 00:04 <ezdagor> Where does it talk about the decoder? Are you referring to "decoder/mpg123" ?
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2012-01-24 00:15 <ezdagor> wej: Are you referring to "decoder/mpg123" ?
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2012-01-24 00:16 <wej> no
2012-01-24 00:17 <wej> decoders/mpg123.so
2012-01-24 00:17 <ezdagor> Of course. That's what i'm referring to. Sorry for the typo.
2012-01-24 00:18 <wej> ok
2012-01-24 00:18 <ezdagor> This is on the Ben, BTW.
2012-01-24 00:18 <wej> yeah, i figured
2012-01-24 00:19 <ezdagor> Ok.
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2012-01-24 17:52 <wpwrak> happiness is ... a new monitor, with working backlight :)
2012-01-24 17:59 <viric> when the lack of monitor is your biggest problem :)
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2012-01-24 18:10 <wpwrak> maybe not the biggest but a rather annoying one. well, i should buy some food, too. or else, i'll complain about something else before too long :)
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2012-01-24 19:22 <Artyom> kristianpaul hello
2012-01-24 19:23 <kristianpaul> Artyom: hi !
2012-01-24 19:24 <Artyom> kristianpaul: I've thought a little about plans for the neasrest future touching osgps. If you are interested we can discuss them...
2012-01-24 19:25 <kristianpaul> go ahead
2012-01-24 19:27 <Artyom> Nearest plans include: 1. Testing software with signal from sattelite (not from imitator).
2012-01-24 19:27 <Artyom> 2. Replacing magic numbers by variables that must be calculated at program start
2012-01-24 19:30 <Artyom> 3. Making simple signal generator in verilog. Actually this is just a simplified version of correlator channel that includes only carrier_nco, code_nco, code_gen and their control registers. (For example, original gp2015-correlator allows to use one of the channels for this purpose.)
2012-01-24 19:31 <Artyom> 4. After this correlator channel can be tested in software without need of special signal-simulator or active_gps_antenna.
2012-01-24 19:32 <Artyom> 5. Making two channel version (I'm afraid that more channels will not fit in FPGA that I use).
2012-01-24 19:32 <Artyom> That's it. What do you think?
2012-01-24 19:33 <kristianpaul> About 1. So this testing should be included in osgps? like a menu ask you to confirm signal acquisition from one satellite your know is in the skyview? 
2012-01-24 19:33 <kristianpaul> About 3. Looks nice too, i'll check this on gp2015 datasheet
2012-01-24 19:34 <kristianpaul> About 2. wich variables you mean? 
2012-01-24 19:35 <kristianpaul> ABout 5. yeah two is a safe numer to grown more channels later :)
2012-01-24 19:37 <kristianpaul> and later you may consider a bigger fpga (like the one in M1) to implement 12 correlators :)
2012-01-24 19:38 <Artyom> 1. I keep in mind not exactly osgps port, but a simplified version which I use. (The idea to select a satellite at start is fine :))
2012-01-24 19:39 <kristianpaul> sure
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2012-01-24 19:40 <Artyom_> 2. I mean such values as carrier_nco control word, code_nco_control word, accum_int_periode control word and the reset which depend on the clock frequency that we use.
2012-01-24 19:41 <Artyom_> 5. Yeah, later I will definitly use something more suitable for MM SoC ;)
2012-01-24 19:42 <kristianpaul> ah, gotach you mean detect clock frequency, i like this so we can work with sige and maxim chips and may be others later
2012-01-24 19:42 <lindi-> just a quick note, are you all subscribed to foss-gps list?
2012-01-24 19:43 <kristianpaul> i di
2012-01-24 19:43 <kristianpaul> s7di/do
2012-01-24 19:43 <kristianpaul> lindi-: but very much talk about rtklib no else... since i suscribed tought 
2012-01-24 19:43 <kristianpaul> s/di/do
2012-01-24 19:43 <qi-bot> kristianpaul meant: "lindo-: but very much talk about rtklib no else... since i suscribed tought "
2012-01-24 19:43 <kristianpaul> argh
2012-01-24 19:43 <kristianpaul> dam bot
2012-01-24 19:43 <lindi-> kristianpaul: exactly, you could post about your fpga ideas
2012-01-24 19:44 <lindi-> or Artyom_'s, I haven't yet read all scrollback
2012-01-24 19:44 <kristianpaul> yes please there is plenty of logs in this channel about it :)
2012-01-24 19:45 <Artyom> I'm not sure that "to detect", but to set during compilation or something similar seems attractive
2012-01-24 19:45 <Artyom> no, I'm not subscribed. What is it?
2012-01-24 19:45 <lindi-> Artyom:   http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps
2012-01-24 19:46 <kristianpaul> durin compilation yes, some header files should be enought :)
2012-01-24 19:47 <kristianpaul> lindi-: you aware of opensource_gps mail list?
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2012-01-24 19:48 <kristianpaul> very quited to but osgps should be already been dicused on foss-gps too ,)
2012-01-24 19:48 <lindi-> kristianpaul: no, what's that?
2012-01-24 19:48 <kristianpaul> osgps project mail list
2012-01-24 19:48 <lindi-> "OpenSource GPS is software for x86 PCs that allows you to acquire, track and demodulate signals from GPS satellites."?
2012-01-24 19:49 <kristianpaul> lindi-: http://home.earthlink.net/~cwkelley/
2012-01-24 19:49 <lindi-> ( -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/osgps/ )
2012-01-24 19:49 <kristianpaul> "A starting point for learning about GPS with Open Source Software" 
2012-01-24 19:49 <kristianpaul> indeed :)=
2012-01-24 19:49 <kristianpaul> not that rtklib or foxtrox are not important tought, but anyway
2012-01-24 19:50 <kristianpaul> may be send some links invite people join here, check irc logs?
2012-01-24 19:50 <lindi-> kristianpaul: hmm, that site seems to have a lot of advertisements
2012-01-24 19:50 <kristianpaul> there are jsut ideas and lots of works to do :)
2012-01-24 19:50 <kristianpaul> lindi-: take your time, worth check it all
2012-01-24 19:51 <kristianpaul> lindi-: if you we're aware of gps-sdr ospgs is same patch but no so blaoted :)
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2012-01-24 19:51 <kristianpaul> i mean C++ etc..
2012-01-24 19:51 <lindi-> kristianpaul: no, I've only used foxtrotgps and rtklib :)
2012-01-24 19:52 <kristianpaul> Artyom: i can try 1. and have soemthing for thursday
2012-01-24 19:52 <Artyom> kristianpaul: But you will have to change magic-nambers ;)
2012-01-24 19:53 <kristianpaul> ah, yes
2012-01-24 19:53 <kristianpaul> and i dont want to do the math by hand again..
2012-01-24 19:53 <kristianpaul> good point
2012-01-24 19:54 <kristianpaul> Artyom: about osgps you consider using rtems for this, or try to keep use single apps no rtos?
2012-01-24 19:54 <lindi-> kristianpaul: so that is a webring? list of web sites?
2012-01-24 19:55 <kristianpaul> lindi-: rtklib looks very interesting, just not have a fix yet here to complement position with it :)
2012-01-24 19:55 <kristianpaul> lindi-: osgps you mean?
2012-01-24 19:55 <lindi-> kristianpaul: http://home.earthlink.net/~cwkelley/
2012-01-24 19:56 <lindi-> kristianpaul: I've done all my rtklib tests using openmoko gta02
2012-01-24 19:56 <kristianpaul> lindi-: not at all check this http://home.earthlink.net/~cwkelley/introduction.htm
2012-01-24 19:56 <Artyom> kristianpaul: RTOS should be used anyway. RTEMS ssems attractive, but I didn't think a lot about it. May be some other RTOS, may be RTEMS. BTW Did you experiment with RTEMS?
2012-01-24 19:57 <kristianpaul> Artyom: RTEMS well yes, at least to make it work
2012-01-24 19:57 <lindi-> kristianpaul: ok, that seems to have last modified set to "2001", is this true?
2012-01-24 19:57 <kristianpaul> lindi-: website yes, code have commitns some months old
2012-01-24 19:58 <lindi-> kristianpaul: does this osgps program have a git repository or something somewhere?
2012-01-24 19:58 <kristianpaul> lindi-: yes! http://sourceforge.net/projects/osgps/
2012-01-24 19:59 <kristianpaul> lindi-: the guy (cwkelley) Over the past 13 years working around GPS :-)
2012-01-24 19:59 <lindi-> ok
2012-01-24 19:59 <kristianpaul> lemay too i guess check this  lindi-  http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/search?q=lemay
2012-01-24 20:00 <lindi-> kristianpaul: and osgps is GPL? the files don't seem to have any copyright info
2012-01-24 20:01 <kristianpaul> ahh good question it is, mom
2012-01-24 20:02 <kristianpaul> "The only requirement is that they are available free and clear under the GPL license."
2012-01-24 20:03 <lindi-> kristianpaul: also, do you need some proprietary assembler to compile the .ASM files? seems to be TASM syntax or something
2012-01-24 20:03 <kristianpaul> no no
2012-01-24 20:03 <kristianpaul> yes
2012-01-24 20:03 <kristianpaul> but no for us
2012-01-24 20:03 <kristianpaul> that was in the tiem osgps ran in a 133Mhz PC using a ISA card to talk gp2015 (Receiver)
2012-01-24 20:04 <Artyom> kristianpaul: If you have some experience with RTEMS then let it will be RTEMS ;)
2012-01-24 20:04 <lindi-> kristianpaul: it seems there are also binaries in the CVS
2012-01-24 20:04 <lindi->  http://osgps.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/osgps/osgps/PCI.OBJ?revision=1.1
2012-01-24 20:04 <kristianpaul> lindi-: yes but ignore then :)
2012-01-24 20:04 <kristianpaul> we dont use PCI
2012-01-24 20:04 <Artyom> kristianpaul: Is there any mailing list or something with osgps?
2012-01-24 20:04 <kristianpaul> Artyom: ye SS!
2012-01-24 20:05 <Artyom> what is SS?
2012-01-24 20:05 <lindi-> kristianpaul: I'm just looking at anything that'd block this from entering e.g. debian
2012-01-24 20:05 <kristianpaul> Artyom: typo sorry
2012-01-24 20:05 <kristianpaul> my internet link getting slow
2012-01-24 20:05 <lindi-> some files have #include <dos.h> /* For Interrupt stuff */  still
2012-01-24 20:05 <kristianpaul> Artyom: http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensource_gps
2012-01-24 20:06 <kristianpaul> Artyom: Michele Bavaro is on that list too
2012-01-24 20:06 <Artyom> Michele Bavaro ;) He mentioned my toy on his blog ;)
2012-01-24 20:06 <kristianpaul> lindi-: from osgps for _now_ we jsut need gpsrcvr.c to make it work on our milkymist soc that uses namuru correlator
2012-01-24 20:06 <Artyom> kristianpaul: you too? ;)
2012-01-24 20:07 <kristianpaul> dont think so, i havent even write it yet
2012-01-24 20:07 <kristianpaul> he replied to me once i wrote osgps list
2012-01-24 20:07 <kristianpaul> about using osgps implementation of gp2021 correlator
2012-01-24 20:07 <lindi-> kristianpaul: ok but I guess rtklib could be used as an alternative too?
2012-01-24 20:07 <kristianpaul> s/it/him
2012-01-24 20:07 <kristianpaul> lindi-: please tell us how :-)
2012-01-24 20:08 <lindi-> kristianpaul: if you can give me rinex from a single receiver I can calculate position easily
2012-01-24 20:08 <kristianpaul> i dint found it very well documented, and it seemed to me i just work with certain navigation data formats?
2012-01-24 20:08 <lindi-> kristianpaul: I convert UBX to rinex using rtklib-convbin
2012-01-24 20:08 <kristianpaul> anyway we can *therically* provide that data, but no idea how rtklib could help from thre
2012-01-24 20:09 <lindi-> kristianpaul: it works here :)
2012-01-24 20:10 <lindi-> kristianpaul: so you don't have any raw data captured yet?
2012-01-24 20:10 <kristianpaul> if you mean raw I/Q data yes :)
2012-01-24 20:10 <lindi-> ok
2012-01-24 20:10 <kristianpaul> lindi-: had you read about namuru correlator project?
2012-01-24 20:11 <Artyom> kristianpaul: you can process I/Q data with SoftOSGPS and have RINEX data as output ;)
2012-01-24 20:11 <lindi-> kristianpaul: not much
2012-01-24 20:11 <kristianpaul> lindi-: can you point me an example where rtklib process a navigation message?
2012-01-24 20:11 <kristianpaul> Artyom: nope no :)
2012-01-24 20:11 <lindi-> kristianpaul: yes
2012-01-24 20:12 <Artyom> kristianpaul: why not? ;)
2012-01-24 20:12 <kristianpaul> Artyom: i event havent look at nmea code yet
2012-01-24 20:12 <kristianpaul> Artyom: i wodner if this work
2012-01-24 20:12 <kristianpaul> Artyom: you can process I/Q data with SoftOSGPS and have NMEA as output? :)
2012-01-24 20:12 <kristianpaul> lindi-: please :)
2012-01-24 20:13 <Artyom> I played a little this way. I recorded I/Q data with my front-end and processed it with SoftOSGPS. I received a position fix :) May be I should write a note in my blog about it...
2012-01-24 20:13 <kristianpaul> ah yes, i tied that first
2012-01-24 20:14 <lindi-> kristianpaul: pntpos() in src/pntpos.c is afaik the simplest mode
2012-01-24 20:14 <Artyom> Ohnestly speaking: I didn't check nmea or rinex output. But I could see on the screen my coordinates
2012-01-24 20:15 <kristianpaul> Artyom: never got the fix.. but at that moment i dint knew it osgps dint support complex processing :/
2012-01-24 20:15 <kristianpaul> well that told me cwkelley
2012-01-24 20:15 <lindi-> I do have access to a software defined radio but unfortunately I don't think I have time to capture you any live GPS data since that'd require some tinkering with antennas and amplifiers if I understand correctly
2012-01-24 20:16 <kristianpaul> no problem
2012-01-24 20:16 <kristianpaul> idea here is do live processing,
2012-01-24 20:16 <lindi-> rtklib can do live processing too
2012-01-24 20:17 <lindi-> but I've always done everything offline
2012-01-24 20:17 <kristianpaul> yes sure, but not in a risc cpu running at 80Mhz :)
2012-01-24 20:17 <kristianpaul> or yes?
2012-01-24 20:17 <kristianpaul> thats why the fpga and the namuru thing :)
2012-01-24 20:17 <lindi-> rtklib has been optimized to run on a beagleboard
2012-01-24 20:17 <lindi-> which is 500 MHz (?) ARM
2012-01-24 20:18 <Artyom> rtklib is interesting if you want to play with (don't know how it is exactly named in english) relative positioning. When you want to know coordinates of one receiver relative to another. In this case you can find relative coordinates very preciously. 
2012-01-24 20:18 <kristianpaul> and prcecislly i heard?
2012-01-24 20:18 <kristianpaul> i mean accurate
2012-01-24 20:18 <lindi-> yep, I got around 10 cm precision
2012-01-24 20:19 <Artyom> With OSGPS you can determine your coordinates with 5-10 meters accuracy. And with rtklib, like lindi mentioned, up to 10 cm
2012-01-24 20:19 <lindi-> http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/finhack/finhack2010-rtklib-lindfors.pdf has some slides I made
2012-01-24 20:20 <Artyom> lindi: What are you working on? What is your project aims? ;)
2012-01-24 20:20 <kristianpaul> yes :)
2012-01-24 20:20 <lindi-> Artyom: that was just a crazy hobby project that escalated accidentally
2012-01-24 20:21 <lindi-> Artyom: I wanted to test rtklib and I had no raw data, at the same time I hated the fact that my openmoko ran non-free software to compute GPS position
2012-01-24 20:22 <lindi-> Artyom: so after some reverse engineering of the GPS firmware I was able to solve both problems
2012-01-24 20:23 <kristianpaul> Artyom: btw for osgps wich raw I/Q format you used 16-bit I/Q interleaved? and how much sampled time?
2012-01-24 20:24 <Artyom> lindi: So you used ANTARES chipset as your gps-receiver? (It's something like popular sirf?). And what data was processed by rtklib (rinex, nmea something else)?
2012-01-24 20:24 <kristianpaul> i still want to record data, afaik i did wrong at the time i tried
2012-01-24 20:24 * kristianpaul feels bad about it
2012-01-24 20:25 <Artyom> kristianpaul: what kind of data do you want to record?
2012-01-24 20:25 <lindi-> Artyom: yep openmoko has ublox antaris 4
2012-01-24 20:25 <kristianpaul> Artyom: the real out-put from my sige and your maxin board
2012-01-24 20:25 <lindi-> Artyom: slide 22 has links to the raw data
2012-01-24 20:25 <kristianpaul> Artyom: when i recorded it was 4 bit I/Q interleaved, then i have to bloat to 16 bits, the process with osgps
2012-01-24 20:26 <lindi-> Artyom: I asked the ublox chip to send me data in UBX format
2012-01-24 20:26 <kristianpaul> Artyom: but as i said this was before i realized osgps dint support real data
2012-01-24 20:26 <kristianpaul> Artyom: anwyay, jsut asking, that was 1 year ago.. i wasted too much time on it, then discover namuru and your blog ;)
2012-01-24 20:28 <lindi-> Artyom: slide 22 also shows how UBX is converted to RINEX
2012-01-24 20:28 <Artyom> kristianpaul: osgps as I remember works with real signals, not with I/Q-samples. So you have two possibilities: if IF-frequency of your front-end is high enough and sampling frequency is also high, then you can just through away Q-samples. Or you can hack OSGPS to work with I/Q-data. It's not difficult to make multiplication of complex-numbers (this is what I plan to add to namuru) ;)
2012-01-24 20:29 <kristianpaul> Artyom: with namuru is simpler i guess u simplify the correlator arm to I or Q, well i tought..
2012-01-24 20:30 <kristianpaul> Artyom: (multiplication) indeed but no now, :)
2012-01-24 20:31 <kristianpaul> lindi-: yes osgps is not the most clean code, but i could bne ported to Milkymist SoC, ignore PCI, DOS and win stuff
2012-01-24 20:31 <kristianpaul> even softosgps :)
2012-01-24 20:32 <Artyom> lindi: ok, now I understand. And rtklib works mainly with RINEX?And you could archive decimeter-level accuracy with cheap reciever (working with L1 only band)? 
2012-01-24 20:33 <Artyom> kristianpaul: in correlator I use all 6 arms (Ie, Ip, Il, Qe, Qp, Ql).
2012-01-24 20:34 <kristianpaul> lindi-: rtklib uses fft for live processing?
2012-01-24 20:34 <kristianpaul> ah wait, it does not support real data samples right?
2012-01-24 20:35 <lindi-> kristianpaul: samples?
2012-01-24 20:35 <lindi-> kristianpaul: UBX has just results of the correlation
2012-01-24 20:36 <kristianpaul> yes i forgot .)
2012-01-24 20:36 <kristianpaul> oh
2012-01-24 20:36 <kristianpaul> UBX looks interesting format then :)
2012-01-24 20:36 <lindi-> see slide 12
2012-01-24 20:36 <lindi-> :)
2012-01-24 20:36 * kristianpaul downloads pdf
2012-01-24 20:37 <Artyom> kristianpaul: rtklib works with output of a GPS-receiver. For example it can potentially worj with OSGPS.
2012-01-24 20:39 <kristianpaul> yes
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2012-01-24 20:41 <DocScrutinizer> lindi-: this pdf of yours still is awesome (though somehow triggers a deja vu sensation halfway thru ;-D ) - why don't you use adhoc wlan for data transmission?
2012-01-24 20:41 <krispaul> argh, blackout it seems
2012-01-24 20:43 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer: I just don't want to risk anything :)
2012-01-24 20:43 <DocScrutinizer> risk?
2012-01-24 20:44 <DocScrutinizer> non-free software on 4th CPU? ;-P
2012-01-24 20:44 <kristianpaul> lindi-: indeed, you can sell preconfigured openmoko with your soft, gps receiver with centimer accuracy are pretty expensive
2012-01-24 20:44 <lindi-> of wlan dropping some packets and compromising the data somehow
2012-01-24 20:44 <DocScrutinizer> duh, and the CPU in bq27200 also in proprietary ;-)
2012-01-24 20:44 <lindi-> doing these experiments wasn't exactly easy. I had to guard the receivers in a rather busy place to make sure nobody steals them :)
2012-01-24 20:45 <lindi-> anyways, this project is currently stuck until I can get better antennas
2012-01-24 20:46 <DocScrutinizer> s/ in / is /
2012-01-24 20:46 <qi-bot> DocScrutinizer meant: "duh, and the CPU is bq27200 also is proprietary ;-)"
2012-01-24 20:46 <DocScrutinizer> meh
2012-01-24 20:46 <kristianpaul> Artyom: so.. you no rtems for now, you board dont  have the port
2012-01-24 20:46 <kristianpaul> Artyom: but may be i can run some basic code
2012-01-24 20:47 <kristianpaul> if memory map is same..
2012-01-24 20:47 <kristianpaul> anyway, will work on 1. :)
2012-01-24 20:47 <kristianpaul> What about you?
2012-01-24 20:49 <Artyom> kristianpaul: For now I will play a little with bare-hardware. I will make tasks that I have mentioned and then i will try ti switch to RTOS. A good news is that a port that I use should work with RTEMS. I even have hello_world application. But I didn't test it yet. May be next month...
2012-01-24 20:49 <kristianpaul> ok
2012-01-24 20:50 <Artyom> And of course it will be greate if you will have some experience with RTEMS. Then we could progress faster as RTEMS will definitly slow down my work
2012-01-24 20:51 <Artyom> it;s time to sleep for me now...
2012-01-24 20:51 <kristianpaul> ok
2012-01-24 20:51 <Artyom> good night
2012-01-24 20:51 <kristianpaul> 15:51 still here :)
2012-01-24 20:51 <kristianpaul> n8 !
2012-01-24 20:51 <Artyom> and 00:51 here ;)
2012-01-24 20:51 <kristianpaul> lindi-: do you know about Milkymist soc?
2012-01-24 20:52 <kristianpaul> and milkymist one?
2012-01-24 20:52 <lindi-> nope
2012-01-24 20:52 <kristianpaul> I would like make clear to you what are we trying to do
2012-01-24 20:53 <kristianpaul> but you know what the nanonote is right?
2012-01-24 20:53 <kristianpaul> the pocker computer with the a single chip
2012-01-24 20:53 <viric> pocket!
2012-01-24 20:53 <kristianpaul> xburst etcc.
2012-01-24 20:53 <kristianpaul> pocket*
2012-01-24 20:53 <kristianpaul> sorry viric !
2012-01-24 20:53 <viric> :)
2012-01-24 20:56 <kristianpaul> lindi-: short words (taking words from your slides), we are implementing similar task that the ataris4 gps receiver from atmel does
2012-01-24 20:56 <kristianpaul> inside a fgpa
2012-01-24 20:56 <kristianpaul> mixing free hdl code from milkymist project, re-using work from namuru correlator (DSP part), and creating a firmware re-using osgps source code
2012-01-24 20:57 <kristianpaul> the later output will be either a NMEA out (or rinex.. etc..) and of course a position fix
2012-01-24 20:58 <kristianpaul> i dont know if you get this inresting or not, just wanted to tell, may be you want to tell same in the floss-gps list, i dont know if not having a devices that provide a fix is worth to mention in those lists :)
2012-01-24 20:59 <kristianpaul> s/those/this
2012-01-24 20:59 <qi-bot> kristianpaul meant: "i dont know if you get this inresting or not, just wanted to tell, may be you want to tell same in the floss-gps list, i dont know if not having a devices that provide a fix is worth to mention in this lists :)"
2012-01-24 21:10 <lindi-> kristianpaul: you still need non-free compiler to build all the fpga stuff?
2012-01-24 21:11 <kristianpaul> sintheizer
2012-01-24 21:11 <kristianpaul> and yes
2012-01-24 21:11 <kristianpaul> but there are WIP alternatives like LLHDL
2012-01-24 21:17 <kristianpaul> synthesizer*
2012-01-24 21:23 <DocScrutinizer> kyak: skynet/guest4711 queried me "WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?" :-D
2012-01-24 21:24 <DocScrutinizer> I honestly didn't know what to answer ;-)
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2012-01-24 22:59 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/ledravaganza/shine-through.fig: trim PCB layers for extra LED visibility (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/b13b4e8
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2012-01-24 23:53 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: did you pick -DKICAD_TESTING_VERSION=ON or -DKICAD_STABLE_VERSION=ON ?