2011-12-19 00:03 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 00:13 kuribas [kuribas!~user@94-227-36-180.access.telenet.be] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 00:29 cladamw [cladamw!~adamwang@host-222.80-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 01:31 xiangfu [xiangfu!~xiangfu@fidelio.qi-hardware.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 01:42 skynet-2000 [skynet-2000!~skynet-20@unaffiliated/skynet2000] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 01:42 Openfree` [Openfree`!~Openfreer@116.228.88.131] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 02:14 cladamw [cladamw!~adamwang@host-222.80-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 03:30 kristianpaul [kristianpaul!~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 03:34 skynet-2000 [skynet-2000!~skynet-20@unaffiliated/skynet2000] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 03:46 qwebirc14556 [qwebirc14556!4766dbba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.102.219.186] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 03:50 Maxim part provides complete USB host, speaks SPI to whatever MCU (e.g. Ben's Ingenic SOC). $4.85 Before you ask, "No, I am not competent to design this into something that plugs into Ben's 8:10 port. But thanks for asking.;)" 2011-12-19 03:50 http://www.maxim-ic.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/3639 2011-12-19 03:55 erikkugel [erikkugel!~erik@206-248-184-96.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 04:07 Hmm. 2011-12-19 04:08 My dad is an electronics engineer. And he's teaching me slowly how to lay out PCBs and wire stuff up 2011-12-19 04:08 So soon I could be handy with that stuff :P 2011-12-19 04:16 xiangfu [xiangfu!~xiangfu@61.49.252.40] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 04:37 erikkugel [erikkugel!~erik@206-248-184-96.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [#qi-hardware] 2011-12-19 05:03 pabs3 [pabs3!~pabs@d122-109-119-15.per801.wa.optusnet.com.au] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 05:13 tonghuix [tonghuix!~tonghuix@210.76.109.165] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 05:45 DocScrutinizer [DocScrutinizer!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 05:49 cladamw [cladamw!~adamwang@host-222.80-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 06:30 xiangfu [xiangfu!~xiangfu@fidelio.qi-hardware.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 07:24 jekhor [jekhor!~jek@vulture2-nat-41.telecom.by] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 08:36 cts_ [cts_!57aeee02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.174.238.2] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 08:37 hello and good (european :) morning! I have at hand a nanonote which will not boot up and will not go into USB mode any more - neither by pressing U nor by shortening the USB pins on the back. could anyone here give me a hand with this, please? 2011-12-19 08:38 cts_, Hi 2011-12-19 08:39 good morning. 2011-12-19 08:39 cts_, how you short the USB Pins? 2011-12-19 08:42 cts_, what I always do is run 'watch lsusb' in one terminal. and keep trying to short the USB pins. 2011-12-19 08:42 cts_, we will bring your nanonote back. :) 2011-12-19 08:45 kristoffer [kristoffer!~kristoffe@c-d8dae555.010-30-6c6b7012.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 08:46 sorry, my nose started bleeding :( 2011-12-19 08:46 xiangfu: as for the shortening; i have tried aluminum foil behind the battery and finally reverted to just using a tiny bit of solder; i tested the short to be ok. 2011-12-19 08:46 cts_, oh~~ there is a HOT girl? :) 2011-12-19 08:47 xiangfu: no, just very, very dry office air. 2011-12-19 08:49 cts_, you mean you soldering those two pins now? 2011-12-19 08:50 xiangfu: yes, I dropped just a tiny bit of solder. it's removed now, though andthe pads are clean / seperated again. 2011-12-19 08:50 separated. 2011-12-19 08:51 cts_, ok. you can try to 1. remove the battery. 2. short those two pins 3. press the reset hole at the back of nanonote. 2011-12-19 08:51 cts_, see if the 'watch lsusb' show 4740? 2011-12-19 08:54 xiangfu: no, it just shows my usb (root)-hubs and the keybord. I'v alredy tried using another port, another computer even and another cable... 2011-12-19 08:55 stefan_schmidt [stefan_schmidt!~stefan@p4FF898C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 08:55 stefan_schmidt: ahh. another schmidt. ;) 2011-12-19 08:55 cts_: not really hard to find around here. :) 2011-12-19 08:56 stefan_schmidt: yes, we are aplenty. 2011-12-19 09:00 cladamw [cladamw!~adamwang@host-222.80-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 09:18 cts_, if you sure those two pins are short. this maybe a hardware problem. 2011-12-19 09:34 xiangfu: yes, I suppose. my hardware dealer wanted to make sure I have talked to you guys before we exchange the unit. 2011-12-19 09:41 cts_, you can soldering those two pins , and try again. :D. just double check. no needs battery. just soldering and press reset HOLE. 2011-12-19 09:43 1. soldering those two pins. 2. connect ben nanonote to computer 3. press the RESET HOLE. 2011-12-19 09:46 xiangfu: without the battery inserted or with the battery inserted? 2011-12-19 09:47 wothout the battery inserted. 2011-12-19 09:47 opk, will do. 2011-12-19 09:47 ok. 2011-12-19 09:47 nanonote can boot with USB power. 2011-12-19 09:50 there it is!! yay!! 2011-12-19 09:50 xiangfu: 601a:4740 (...) 2011-12-19 09:50 yes. 2011-12-19 09:51 looks good. now I can just do a "normal" reflash, right? 2011-12-19 09:51 that is nanonote in usb mode 2011-12-19 09:51 cts_, yes. 2011-12-19 09:51 xiangfu: it's alive again. what a good way to start a day! ;) 2011-12-19 09:52 cts_, now you can reflash the latest version :D 2011-12-19 10:07 mstevens [mstevens!~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 10:09 sunnysujan [sunnysujan!~sujan@cpc1-nmal9-0-0-cust259.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 10:12 Ayla [Ayla!~paul@208.215.70.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 10:32 jluis [jluis!~jpddb@83.247.136.72] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 10:48 wejp [wejp!~j@m2.mullvad.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:10 xiangfu: everything's fine again. thank you for your support and thanks to Qi for building such a fine, error-resillient hardware! 2011-12-19 11:10 cts_, thanks for buy and play nanonote. :D 2011-12-19 11:14 xiangfu: you are with the manufacturer, right? who would I contact for a nannonote-based audioplayer hardware the company I work for is seeking? I was planning on presenting the device beginning of next year (we do background music for hotels and cruise ships), tha hardware seems to be a good/nice fit. 2011-12-19 11:17 kristianpaul [kristianpaul!~kristianp@cl-498.udi-01.br.sixxs.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:17 kristianpaul [kristianpaul!~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:19 cts_, I am a software people. Sharism is hardware manufacturer , (Qi hardware is the project name) 2011-12-19 11:20 cts_, nanonote-based audio player, what is Ben Nanonote missing compare to your 'audioplayer' ? 2011-12-19 11:22 Sharism is the manufacturer of Ben Nanonote. 2011-12-19 11:22 xiangfu: nothing. that's the beauty. I haven't tested the quality of the sound output, but adding a "real" soundcodec to the board shouldn't be that much of a problem for a company that can read the Qi designs (I can't... ;). Else it has a display, it boots fairly quickly and has a few buttons - perfect. 2011-12-19 11:24 cts_, great. you can send this idea to mailing list ( http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion ). people there will give you more idea. 2011-12-19 11:24 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:24 xiangfu: thanks, I will do that. 2011-12-19 11:25 stefan__ [stefan__!~stefan@p4FF898C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:26 cts_, if it only for play music. you still needs modify the system. like direct to the music player. etc. 2011-12-19 11:29 tonghuix [tonghuix!~tonghuix@210.76.109.165] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:32 xiangfu: sure, but building that up from what's already there shouldn't be too much of a problem. we really don not wnt to go through the process of having someone build a custom hardware (simply because the company is not big enough and noon has any experience in this). 2011-12-19 11:37 cts_: would you need to modify the case ? 2011-12-19 11:38 wpwrak: probably not (if we stay with the built-in audio codec) - as the device just ignores if the lid is open or closed it should be fine. 2011-12-19 11:40 kewl. we don't have design control of the case, so that would have been a bit of a problem :) 2011-12-19 11:44 fwiw, the SoC has a "real" ac97 audio codec. not sure if the output circuit meets your needs, though 2011-12-19 11:45 cladamw [cladamw!~adamwang@host-222.80-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 11:57 it is not a ac97 codec 2011-12-19 11:59 hmm. does the data sheet lie then ? 2011-12-19 12:00 ah, i see what you mean. only the digital side 2011-12-19 12:03 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:05 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:05 sunnysujan [sunnysujan!~sujan@cpc1-nmal9-0-0-cust259.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [#qi-hardware] 2011-12-19 12:10 and exactly the audio conversion "behind" the DAC seems to be a bit too much on the consumer side of things ;) 2011-12-19 12:11 antoniodariush [antoniodariush!~antonioda@nat-sta-smtc2.tvu.ac.uk] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:11 you mean the analog circuit ? 2011-12-19 12:12 the internal codec is really crappy 2011-12-19 12:12 so it's the DAC itself 2011-12-19 12:35 zear_ [zear_!~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:47 sunnysujan [sunnysujan!~sujan@cpc1-nmal9-0-0-cust259.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:47 sunnysujan [sunnysujan!~sujan@cpc1-nmal9-0-0-cust259.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [#qi-hardware] 2011-12-19 12:47 valhalla_ [valhalla_!~valhalla@81-174-23-206.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:47 ozzloy_ [ozzloy_!~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:47 wolfspraul [wolfspraul!~wolfsprau@p5B0AF7AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:47 uwe_mobile [uwe_mobile!~uwe@static.88-198-8-117.clients.your-server.de] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:48 jekhor [jekhor!~jek@mx2.promwad.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:51 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:52 qi-bot [qi-bot!~qi-bot@turandot.qi-hardware.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 12:55 duckinator [duckinator!nick@botters/staff/duckinator] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:00 cladamw [cladamw!~adamwang@host-222.80-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:00 duckinator [duckinator!nick@botters/staff/duckinator] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:00 qi-bot [qi-bot!~qi-bot@turandot.qi-hardware.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:12 mstevens [mstevens!~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:21 valhalla [valhalla!~valhalla@81-174-23-206.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:25 qwebirc68256 [qwebirc68256!d5b36019@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.179.96.25] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:25 hello 2011-12-19 13:26 hello 2011-12-19 13:28 urandom__ [urandom__!~user@ip-176-199-8-241.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:31 jivs [jivs!~jivs@nat-sta-smtc2.tvu.ac.uk] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 13:46 mstevens [mstevens!~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 14:30 Jay7 [Jay7!jay@93-81-196-112.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 14:30 deneme [deneme!~sahip@212.253.16.254] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 14:31 so the only way to disable boot-logo is to reinstall the modified kernel, huh? 2011-12-19 14:31 there is no config? 2011-12-19 14:31 the boot logo is compiled in 2011-12-19 14:31 hmm 2011-12-19 14:31 kay 2011-12-19 14:32 I don't know whether it can be switched off via a command line option 2011-12-19 14:32 I am guessing not... 2011-12-19 14:33 you can try the logo.nologo option 2011-12-19 14:33 logo.nologo [FB] Disables display of the built-in Linux logo. 2011-12-19 14:33 This may be used to provide more screen space for 2011-12-19 14:33 kernel log messages and is useful when debugging 2011-12-19 14:33 kernel boot problems. 2011-12-19 14:33 either way, I still got plenty of configuration to do. I could postpone the logo config 2011-12-19 14:33 but, hmm 2011-12-19 14:34 deneme: if you just switch it off, it is a cheap shot :) 2011-12-19 14:38 ehh... Ill come to that later 2011-12-19 14:43 which boot logo do you mean? the very first one is in the dual boot loader, the second one is in the kernel 2011-12-19 14:43 the one in the kernel is easy to disable, it's an option in the kernel config 2011-12-19 14:44 disabling the one in the boot loader would require changing the boot loader code 2011-12-19 14:44 why do you want to disable the logo? 2011-12-19 14:45 ok which HW are we talking about? 2011-12-19 14:45 ahem, ben 2011-12-19 14:45 ah sorry, wrong channel 2011-12-19 14:45 I assumed the Dingoo boot procedure 2011-12-19 14:45 yeah :) 2011-12-19 14:46 close enough ;) 2011-12-19 14:46 fyi, why I want to disable it is because I have to 'clear' after boot to use the console 2011-12-19 14:47 maybe I could run a script to do that at user-login 2011-12-19 14:47 I dunno 2011-12-19 14:48 the boot logo should disappear at some point during the boot, doesn't it? 2011-12-19 14:50 perhaps with gui 2011-12-19 14:51 on non-X PC installs the logo is no longer there by the time the login prompt appears 2011-12-19 14:51 maybe they have something in the startup scripts for that 2011-12-19 14:53 I dont know tbh. In a normal pc I would edit grub 2011-12-19 14:53 Ill have to play with it a bit, I guess 2011-12-19 14:55 emeb [emeb!~ericb@ip72-223-90-48.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 15:13 skynet-2000 [skynet-2000!~skynet-20@unaffiliated/skynet2000] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 15:24 watch ifconfig usb0 2011-12-19 15:24 sorry, wrong window 2011-12-19 15:29 kuribas [kuribas!~user@94-227-88-45.access.telenet.be] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 15:50 ozzloy [ozzloy!~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 15:59 exit 2011-12-19 16:52 mstevens [mstevens!~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 17:47 mstevens_ [mstevens_!~mstevens@ceres.etla.org] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 17:48 [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1rc3/norruption/4/LOG: detailed log of the M1pre-rc4 tests (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/ce6a4d8 2011-12-19 18:10 jekhor [jekhor!~jek@178.121.155.199] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 19:31 The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It was developed by AS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba, and Sony. 2011-12-19 19:31 n00bs will never stop creating crap 2011-12-19 19:35 urandom__ [urandom__!~user@ip-176-199-8-241.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 19:51 kilae [kilae!~chatzilla@catv-161-018.tbwil.ch] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 20:15 kilae_ [kilae_!~chatzilla@catv-161-018.tbwil.ch] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 20:22 sunnysujan [sunnysujan!~sujan@cpc1-nmal9-0-0-cust259.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 20:23 sunnysujan [sunnysujan!~sujan@cpc1-nmal9-0-0-cust259.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [#qi-hardware] 2011-12-19 21:25 wejp [wejp!~j@m2.mullvad.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 21:28 antgreen [antgreen!~user@70.50.66.140] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 21:53 jekhor [jekhor!~jek@vulture2-nat-41.telecom.by] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 22:01 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 22:51 kyak [kyak!~kyak@89-178-167-141.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 22:51 kyak [kyak!~kyak@unaffiliated/kyak] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 23:04 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 23:07 wolfspraul [wolfspraul!~wolfsprau@p5B0AF7AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 23:16 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 23:29 akiwiguy [akiwiguy!~akiwiguy@unaffiliated/akiwiguy] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 23:51 kuribas [kuribas!~user@94-227-88-45.access.telenet.be] has joined #qi-hardware 2011-12-19 23:58 kuribas [kuribas!~user@94-227-88-45.access.telenet.be] has joined #qi-hardware