2011-11-24 00:12 _whitelogger joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 00:12 Topic for #qi-hardware is now Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs 2011-11-24 00:55 xiangfu joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 01:09 wej joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 01:20 aw_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 01:20 aw joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 01:22 rejon_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 03:25 [commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: new option -d (debug) to print MIDI messages we receive (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/571af6d 2011-11-24 03:43 wolfspraul joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 05:16 aw_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 05:16 aw joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 05:18 aw_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 05:20 DocScrutinizer2 joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 05:51 [commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: added channel and control number mapping (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2d50444 2011-11-24 06:08 aw joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 07:25 stefan_schmidt joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 07:30 xiangfu joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 07:46 !tweet uploaded a @YouTube video http://youtu.be/JuSjp_zKarI?a @Milkymist One with image support 2011-11-24 07:46 Tweet created: http://twitter.com/qihardware 2011-11-24 07:58 panda|x201 joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 08:08 jekhor joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 08:29 newcup joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 09:24 urandom__ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 09:48 SoulRaven joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 10:43 tonghuix joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 11:03 jivs joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 11:08 antoniodariush joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 11:23 Ayla joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 11:29 jivs joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 11:43 xiangfu joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 11:48 tonghuix joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 12:17 aw joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 12:17 aw_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 13:10 jekhor joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 13:47 Ayla joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:00 antoniodariush joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:02 [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/curiosity-demo: sources of the "curiosity" demo clip (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/1c5cbca 2011-11-24 14:05 [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/curiosity-demo/README: added credits for background music (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f2b4669 2011-11-24 14:13 paroneayea joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:21 Ayla joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:24 pabs3 joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:26 Ayla joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:31 wpwrak joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 14:44 freakazoid0223 joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 15:05 antgreen joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 15:23 kristoffer joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 15:25 wolfspraul joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 15:42 a friend of mine wants to use some own NIH-syndrome-induced protocol for a wireless sensor 2011-11-24 15:42 jivs_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 15:42 any reasons to convince him to use 6lowpan? 2011-11-24 15:56 he would probably not agree with your NIH-syndrome diagnosis 2011-11-24 15:56 if he likes he can come to this channel and we think about the pros and cons of rf options for his sensors 2011-11-24 15:56 I think he should go the shortest path to a working solution for him 2011-11-24 15:57 and maybe what he currently has in mind will do just that for him? don't know... 2011-11-24 15:58 wolfspraul: do you recall what I've said about russians and their English skills?.. 2011-11-24 15:58 ahem 2011-11-24 15:58 depends a bit on what platform he uses and how much work he plans to put into it. if it's a platform already supported by linux or contiki, then it should be easy. for some one-man diy project, of course, whatever works will do :) 2011-11-24 15:58 oh, he personally hates linux and likes RSX-11 a lot, but that's not the reason here 2011-11-24 15:59 he says that the standard protocols are bloated and not energy efficient, which I doubt, but I haven't worked with 6lowpan, for example 2011-11-24 15:59 (bloated as both in code size and packet size) 2011-11-24 16:00 and he needs guaranteed delivery for at least firmware upgrade 2011-11-24 16:01 good luck with that ;-) 2011-11-24 16:02 (well, some of things he says about linux are quite valid. for example, the absence of async I/O) 2011-11-24 16:05 seems very opinionated 2011-11-24 16:05 in theory of course if he makes his own semiconductors etc he can implement all he wants in hardware and have the perfect energy efficiency 2011-11-24 16:06 28nm lithography of course 2011-11-24 16:06 :-) 2011-11-24 16:06 heh 2011-11-24 16:06 if he wants to get something working soon he will have to take a different path and reasoning 2011-11-24 16:07 he's not a fanatic, and actually he's kind of asked me for advice on what to use--he's not sure that the NIH route is the way to go 2011-11-24 16:10 now that I look at it, 6lowpan may be really bloated for this application 2011-11-24 16:20 wolfspraul joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 16:28 rejon joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 16:46 kuribas joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 16:48 urandom__ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 16:51 rzk joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 17:06 antoniodariush joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 17:57 rzk joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 18:03 rzk_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 18:07 stefan_schmidt joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 18:50 rzk joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 20:43 DocScrutinizer joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 20:45 Artyom joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 20:48 Kristianpaul hello! :) 2011-11-24 21:18 hi 2011-11-24 21:20 woakas: hey 2011-11-24 21:21 woakas: if you still interested in a nanonote with amazon it will be 94usd plus 40usd shipping handling with coordinadorausa 2011-11-24 21:34 kristianpaul: yes 2011-11-24 21:35 kristianpaul: you want one? 2011-11-24 21:46 woakas: i have mine,no more for now but i can give you mail for other guys interested.. 2011-11-24 21:47 at least this time from the USA is cheaper than from Taiwan it seems 2011-11-24 21:51 jekhor joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 22:06 B_Lizzard joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 22:21 wejp joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 jivs_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 antgreen joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 Jay7 joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 gbraad joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 blogic joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 uwe_mobile joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 jow_laptop joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:14 ChanServ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:15 wolfspraul joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:15 zear joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:15 steve|m joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:15 mirko joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:15 lars_ joined #qi-hardware 2011-11-24 23:15 DocScrutinizer51 joined #qi-hardware