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2011-11-21 04:29 <kristianpaul> he, finally 0 erros when reading/writing the namuru general porpuse register
2011-11-21 04:30 <kristianpaul> now to adjust the samply, not hard just keep in mind system clock is multiple of 4
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2011-11-21 10:24 <whitequark> wolfspraul: what do you think about iteadstudio?
2011-11-21 10:25 <wolfspraul> first time I hear that, interesting!
2011-11-21 10:25 <wolfspraul> checking...
2011-11-21 10:26 <whitequark> I've ordered some RF modules from them, and also a PCB
2011-11-21 10:26 <wolfspraul> give me some time, I will read about it
2011-11-21 10:26 <whitequark> they're cheap, they're clearly chinese, but they are quite good for such a cheap chinese product
2011-11-21 10:26 <whitequark> sure
2011-11-21 10:26 <wolfspraul> the chinese government is on overdrive right now, I need to get my tunnel stronger first
2011-11-21 10:26 <wolfspraul> I get resets all over the place, urgh
2011-11-21 10:27 <wolfspraul> how dangerous a standing tcp connection can be to such a wannabe empire...
2011-11-21 10:27 <whitequark> uh.
2011-11-21 10:27 <wolfspraul> I will read about iteadstudio
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2011-11-21 11:09 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: for a moment i was thinking you meant a physical tunnel ;-)
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2011-11-21 11:40 <wolfspraul> whitequark: ok I looked at this for 5 minutes now
2011-11-21 11:40 <wolfspraul> after 5 minutes, it looks like a seeedstudio clone
2011-11-21 11:41 <wolfspraul> what happens in China a lot is this: some company is successful, where successful means that 3, 5 or more people all are making money
2011-11-21 11:41 <wolfspraul> now
2011-11-21 11:41 <wolfspraul> some will make more than others
2011-11-21 11:41 <wolfspraul> which the ones that are making less will not like
2011-11-21 11:42 <wolfspraul> so they 'branch out'
2011-11-21 11:42 <wolfspraul> :-)
2011-11-21 11:42 <wolfspraul> they take everything with them, all files, customer database, etc. and setup a clone
2011-11-21 11:43 <wolfspraul> since seeedstudio has some success, I'm not surprised to see what looks like a seeedstudio clone now
2011-11-21 11:43 <wolfspraul> you typically find 3-5 companies in China all doing pretty much the exact same thing
2011-11-21 11:43 <wolfspraul> at that number the benefits of picking each others eyes seem to level off
2011-11-21 11:43 <wolfspraul> so we are at 2 now, some more to come :-)
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2011-11-21 12:17 <wpwrak> one problem of jamendo is that the have very few vocals for electronic stuff
2011-11-21 12:18 <wpwrak> ccmixter is doing a bit better. they have good vocals from "snowflake", and given the nature of ccmixter, everybody is reusing them. of course, this means that you get a dozen versions of each song ;-)
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2011-11-21 18:44 <Artyom> hi kristianpaul
2011-11-21 18:54 <kristianpaul> Artyom: hello
2011-11-21 18:54 * kristianpaul back from lucnh
2011-11-21 18:55 <Artyom> I've seen your message in the log. :) You managed to run mm+namuru with front-end clock?
2011-11-21 18:57 <kristianpaul> yes
2011-11-21 18:57 <kristianpaul> now fixiting namuru timing to sycn all sample to sytem_clock/4
2011-11-21 18:59 <kristianpaul> timing/tic
2011-11-21 18:59 <kristianpaul> and then back to where i started one month ago ;-)
2011-11-21 19:00 <kristianpaul> finally 0 errors in R/W namuru so i coukd trust memory
2011-11-21 19:01 <Artyom> great :)
2011-11-21 19:17 <Artyom> Now I'm in the tail ;)
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2011-11-21 19:25 <kristianpaul> no no
2011-11-21 19:26 <kristianpaul> Artyom: actually i think i could prepare a milkymist soc foryou
2011-11-21 19:26 <kristianpaul> i *guess* that for tracking a single channel 128K should be enough
2011-11-21 19:26 <kristianpaul> i was reading the other daya  datasheet of a gps baseband from atmel
2011-11-21 19:27 <Artyom> interesting, but I think that with my boards it would be difficult ;)
2011-11-21 19:27 <kristianpaul> it uses a ~700K internal rom plus 128K ram if i recall correctly
2011-11-21 19:27 <Artyom> my current plan is to start from the beginning ;)
2011-11-21 19:27 <kristianpaul> why? i just instanciate ram in HDL no chip specific libraries
2011-11-21 19:28 <kristianpaul> sure
2011-11-21 19:28 <kristianpaul> byt was suefull for you the hello world i pointed last day?
2011-11-21 19:28 <Artyom> Today I have finally installed all required soft in linux (previously I used some win soft and some linux)
2011-11-21 19:28 <kristianpaul> good
2011-11-21 19:28 <Artyom> I sucessed with xilinx ISE installation... That was the worst thing
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2011-11-21 19:29 <Artyom> especially drivers for usb-programmer
2011-11-21 19:30 <Artyom> But today finally I managed to compile and to synthesis all the SoC under linux
2011-11-21 19:30 <Artyom> and I found a terminal program (cutecom if I remember well)
2011-11-21 19:30 <kristianpaul> yes
2011-11-21 19:30 <Artyom> I think I will start from mm-papilio port
2011-11-21 19:30 <Artyom> it's the easiest
2011-11-21 19:31 <kristianpaul> but milkymist bios dont bahave correctly in all terminal program
2011-11-21 19:31 <kristianpaul> (tail) i was kiding the other day,i recognice my lazyness, you are morefocused than mi for sure.. i still having problems to concetrate anyway..
2011-11-21 19:31 <kristianpaul> Artyom: what is the board you are finally using?
2011-11-21 19:31 <kristianpaul> i coul read about it and consider it for a more portable namuru-milkymist baseband soc
2011-11-21 19:31 <Artyom> I think I will use digilent spartan 3e
2011-11-21 19:32 <kristianpaul> okay
2011-11-21 19:32 <Artyom> because when I will better understand the SoC then I will be able to use Carlos results
2011-11-21 19:32 <kristianpaul> i think carlos results should work without too much understanding
2011-11-21 19:32 <kristianpaul> as i iremenber
2011-11-21 19:33 <kristianpaul> he developed a free software too to program board flash
2011-11-21 19:33 <kristianpaul> and did make work the sdram controler of milkymist for its board
2011-11-21 19:33 <Artyom> Yes, I though so too. And Carlos was very kind to answer on all questions that I have asked him. But ;)
2011-11-21 19:34 <Artyom> But there are a lot of new things to me
2011-11-21 19:34 <Artyom> like programming flash-mem
2011-11-21 19:34 <kristianpaul> understood, one by one
2011-11-21 19:34 <kristianpaul> btw M1 works out of the box with all this ram and flash praming :-)
2011-11-21 19:35 <kristianpaul> of course 500usd plus shipping to russia.. but i think you could buy a early developer kit perhaps?? wich is  a litle cheaper
2011-11-21 19:35 <Artyom> like understanding how MM SoC downloads and so on... There are too many questions to solve simultaneously. So I have to move step by step ;)
2011-11-21 19:35 <kristianpaul> feel free to ask as always
2011-11-21 19:36 <Artyom> I will definitly do it when I'll have an oportunity ;)
2011-11-21 19:36 <kristianpaul> Busy at university?
2011-11-21 19:37 <Artyom> university and the rest ;)
2011-11-21 19:38 <Artyom> Task for tomorow: to study MM io ;)
2011-11-21 19:40 <kristianpaul> basically MMIO
2011-11-21 19:40 <kristianpaul> Artyom: check source code for cores/sysctl/rtl/
2011-11-21 19:40 <Artyom> BTW I looked a little in lm32 documentation and I didn't noticed mul (or div?) command to signed integers. And I remember that you had some troubles with signed integer...
2011-11-21 19:40 <kristianpaul> very ilustrative
2011-11-21 19:41 <kristianpaul> yeah.. i still not get all that too
2011-11-21 19:41 <Artyom> ok, I'll do it :)
2011-11-21 19:41 <kristianpaul> but yes there is mul div support
2011-11-21 19:41 <Artyom> mul, div is made only for unsigned integers?
2011-11-21 19:41 <kristianpaul> dont know
2011-11-21 19:42 <kristianpaul> you mind join #milkymist ?
2011-11-21 19:42 <Artyom> of coare no
2011-11-21 19:42 <Artyom> ;)
2011-11-21 19:42 <kristianpaul> and ask lekernel, i really not very familiar yet will all math capabillites for our loved soc  :)
2011-11-21 19:43 <wpwrak> lm32 ? isn't it called "divu", for unsigned" ? :)
2011-11-21 19:43 <kristianpaul> ;)
2011-11-21 19:43 <kristianpaul> hehe
2011-11-21 19:44 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: but signed supprot could be implemented in software isnt?
2011-11-21 19:46 <wpwrak> you can implement almost everything in software :)
2011-11-21 19:46 <kristianpaul> and the CFLAGS  -mbarrel-shift-enabled -mmultiply-enabled -mdivide-enabled what for are?
2011-11-21 19:46 <kristianpaul> to use hardware support for this i guess?
2011-11-21 19:47 <kristianpaul> but then you said is unsigned
2011-11-21 19:47 <wpwrak> ah yes, they look encouraging. maybe they are for unsigned ?
2011-11-21 19:48 <wpwrak> multiply also has signed, by the way
2011-11-21 19:48 <wpwrak> see also: http://milkymist.org/socdoc/lm32_archman.pdf
2011-11-21 19:49 <kristianpaul> Artyom: i think my problem was with printf actually
2011-11-21 19:49 <kristianpaul> wich is really hardcoed to milkymist
2011-11-21 19:50 <kristianpaul> but then realized anyway i may need a custom printf to make all easy to scilba
2011-11-21 19:50 <kristianpaul> scilab**
2011-11-21 19:50 <kristianpaul> or gnuplot.. i'll see, but i'm really ignorant on this..
2011-11-21 19:50 <kristianpaul> still*
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2011-11-21 19:54 <kristianpaul> Artyom: btw you ran that osgps for in your arm+fpga,how much had it?
2011-11-21 19:56 <Artyom> sorry.. What do you mean?
2011-11-21 19:56 <kristianpaul> where you ran the osgps_mod ?
2011-11-21 19:56 <kristianpaul> was it in a arm processor in your other board?
2011-11-21 19:57 <Artyom> yes, osgps_mod ran on lpc2478 (ARM7)
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2011-11-21 20:29 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: neocon: moved over from svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/neocon/ (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/7d0683b
2011-11-21 20:29 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: neocon.c: copyright update and whitespace cleanup (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f3e1f92
2011-11-21 20:29 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: neocon.c: new option -c to enable ONLCR for console output (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/4040ad3
2011-11-21 20:29 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1nor: accept system.fpg as alias for soc.fpg (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/8b92936
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2011-11-21 23:28 <PiLeS> Hoi. Anyone got any clues as to why jmarch-compiled nethack doesn't work on the new images? Also, any hints as to what flags were used to compile the version included in the image(s) -but without data files, and incompatible with jmarch's ones. I wanna recompile the lot, because a no nethack ain't no good! Any hint can save me some precious testing time. TIA
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