2011-10-29 03:53 <qwebirc27384> Hello?
2011-10-29 03:53 <qwebirc27384> I am here about unbricking my Ben Nanonote
2011-10-29 03:54 <qwebirc27384> Anyone here?
2011-10-29 03:59 <wolfspraul> hye
2011-10-29 03:59 <wolfspraul> hey :-)
2011-10-29 04:00 <wolfspraul> that was too quick...
2011-10-29 04:11 <zrafa> wolfspraul: is that nick something known..? I have read that prefix "qwebirc" several times
2011-10-29 04:11 <wolfspraul> that's from people that come in over freenode's web chat
2011-10-29 04:11 <wolfspraul> and the url we have in the /webchat redirect it to use an 'auto-nick'
2011-10-29 04:11 <wolfspraul> you can try :-)
2011-10-29 04:12 <zrafa> ah.. okey :)
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> http://en.qi-hardware.com/webchat
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> maybe we should remove the auto-nick
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> because people have to enter the captcha anyway, they may also enter a nick for themselves
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> but the less they have to enter the better I think
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> well, we try to bring people together, not so easy
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> many of the webchat guys may have never been in an irc group before and don't know the customs
2011-10-29 04:12 <zrafa> nice... another interesting web for irc chat is http://webchat.freenode.net/ but we need to explain how to join to the channel
2011-10-29 04:12 <wolfspraul> that's the same
2011-10-29 04:13 <zrafa> yeah
2011-10-29 04:13 <zrafa> I do not know which is the panic for that people who say "hello" and then after one minute without answers they run :)
2011-10-29 04:15 <zrafa> I suppose that something similar with me before to ask mailing list something I do not understand. It takes me several days or weeks before I am confident to ask 
2011-10-29 04:36 <wolfspraul> they just don't know. need to find ways to explain this better, maybe some chat client I install on the Qi server, don't know.
2011-10-29 07:16 <kyak> jow_lapt1p: thanks! :)
2011-10-29 16:38 <DocScrutinizer> wolfspraul: aiui freenode forbids "private" irc web gateways
2011-10-29 22:35 <qwebirc46206> Hello?
2011-10-29 22:36 <qwebirc46206> I am here about unbricking my Ben Nanonote
2011-10-29 22:36 <qwebirc46206> this is Cenobyte
2011-10-29 22:38 <qwebirc46206> I guess I'll wait a while...
2011-10-29 22:38 <kristianpaul> Hello
2011-10-29 22:38 <kristianpaul> When your power up yout nanonote you got a message or just blank screen?
2011-10-29 22:40 <qwebirc46206> blank screen
2011-10-29 22:40 <kristianpaul> ok do you remenber the rubber thing came within the nanonote box?
2011-10-29 22:40 <qwebirc46206> ya
2011-10-29 22:41 <kristianpaul> The idea to follow is first got usb boot mode
2011-10-29 22:41 <kristianpaul> Then reflash
2011-10-29 22:41 <kristianpaul> I dont do this all days, so i'm going to follow http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/USB_BOOT_mode
2011-10-29 22:41 <kristianpaul> okay?
2011-10-29 22:41 <qwebirc46206> i have gone to usb mode or at least tried with power+U key
2011-10-29 22:41 <qwebirc46206> nothing shows on lsusb
2011-10-29 22:42 <qwebirc46206> usbboot complains no xburst device found
2011-10-29 22:42 <kristianpaul> power+U works when you have uboot wich is a software can be damaghe
2011-10-29 22:42 <kristianpaul> damaged*
2011-10-29 22:42 <kristianpaul> when this happen you got that blank screen
2011-10-29 22:42 <kristianpaul> but no panic
2011-10-29 22:42 <qwebirc46206> ok so the hardware way is fool proof?
2011-10-29 22:42 <kristianpaul> yes
2011-10-29 22:42 <qwebirc46206> what if I lost the rubber thing?
2011-10-29 22:42 <kristianpaul> you can still boot by shorting the usb boot pinds
2011-10-29 22:43 <kristianpaul> pins**
2011-10-29 22:43 <kristianpaul> please remove your battery
2011-10-29 22:43 <qwebirc46206> with what though?
2011-10-29 22:43 <kristianpaul> battery out as when you do on you cellphone  i guess :)
2011-10-29 22:44 <qwebirc46206> the battery is out
2011-10-29 22:44 <kristianpaul> good, do you see the the two usb boot pins?
2011-10-29 22:45 <qwebirc46206> ya
2011-10-29 22:45 <kristianpaul> The idea is to short then with the carbonized rubber button
2011-10-29 22:45 <qwebirc46206> does short mean connect?
2011-10-29 22:45 <kristianpaul> yes in some manner :)
2011-10-29 22:46 <qwebirc46206> so would a strip of foil work too?
2011-10-29 22:46 <kristianpaul> it *could* but the rubber thing is more effective
2011-10-29 22:46 <qwebirc46206> ok i'll try to find it
2011-10-29 22:46 <kristianpaul> you said you still having it isnt?
2011-10-29 22:46 <kristianpaul> please
2011-10-29 22:47 <qwebirc46206> lol
2011-10-29 22:47 <qwebirc46206> ya i hope i have it...
2011-10-29 22:47 <qwebirc46206> brb
2011-10-29 22:47 <kristianpaul> i personally use my screwdriver, but because i feel confident with
2011-10-29 22:48 <kristianpaul> qwebirc46206: if you 
2011-10-29 22:48 <kristianpaul> dont if it, we could try with a paper clip perhaps
2011-10-29 22:49 <kristianpaul> s/if/have
2011-10-29 22:51 <qwebirc46206> ok i found it
2011-10-29 22:51 <qwebirc46206> right in my box of old cpu's
2011-10-29 22:52 <kristianpaul> good
2011-10-29 22:52 <kristianpaul> please in a seperate terminal run watch lsusb (in case you havent)
2011-10-29 22:52 <kristianpaul> now lets first with the nanonote unpluged use the rubber thing and push on the boot usb pins
2011-10-29 22:52 <kristianpaul> then connect the usb cable
2011-10-29 22:53 <kristianpaul> then the lsusb output will now show a line with 601a:4740 if all wen ok
2011-10-29 22:53 <kristianpaul> wenT
2011-10-29 22:54 <qwebirc46206> ok great it did
2011-10-29 22:55 <qwebirc46206> it was a simple problem
2011-10-29 22:55 <qwebirc46206> I did not know that power+U was software
2011-10-29 22:55 <qwebirc46206> now I can just reflash again, right?
2011-10-29 22:57 <kristianpaul> yes
2011-10-29 22:57 <qwebirc46206> hello?
2011-10-29 22:57 <kristianpaul> hello !
2011-10-29 22:57 <qwebirc46206> ok
2011-10-29 22:57 <kristianpaul> go ahead
2011-10-29 22:58 <qwebirc46206> just curious, what do you run on your nano?
2011-10-29 22:58 <kristianpaul> yes power+U is handled by uBoot 
2011-10-29 22:58 <kristianpaul> i like gmu, i use it for connect to servers and transfer files
2011-10-29 22:59 <qwebirc46206> so you use openwrt
2011-10-29 22:59 <qwebirc46206> ?
2011-10-29 22:59 <kristianpaul> yes i do
2011-10-29 22:59 <kristianpaul> i also use elinks
2011-10-29 22:59 <kristianpaul> i have several docs in html
2011-10-29 22:59 <qwebirc46206> I'm looking to run Debian
2011-10-29 22:59 <kristianpaul> and mplayer
2011-10-29 22:59 <kristianpaul> will be cool, if got at least framebuffer to work
2011-10-29 23:00 <qwebirc46206> I am looking at another project openzipit
2011-10-29 23:00 <kristianpaul> i do use mathomatic too
2011-10-29 23:00 <qwebirc46206> which I call the nanonote's evil twin
2011-10-29 23:00 <kristianpaul> btw are you running reflash script?
2011-10-29 23:00 <qwebirc46206> no, I do it by hand
2011-10-29 23:00 <kristianpaul> as you wish :=
2011-10-29 23:00 <kristianpaul> :)
2011-10-29 23:01 <qwebirc46206> it never seems to work at least for me
2011-10-29 23:01 <kristianpaul> may be using wrong offsets for when writing to flash?
2011-10-29 23:01 <qwebirc46206> so if this happens again, I just bust out that little rubber, right?
2011-10-29 23:01 <kristianpaul> yes
2011-10-29 23:01 <qwebirc46206> theoretically the nano is unbrickable?
2011-10-29 23:02 <kristianpaul> yes
2011-10-29 23:02 <qwebirc46206> well i may build a custom kernel
2011-10-29 23:02 <kristianpaul> there is even a jtag some wher i remenber
2011-10-29 23:02 <qwebirc46206> i was told i would at least have to modify one
2011-10-29 23:03 <qwebirc46206> for soft-float
2011-10-29 23:03 <kristianpaul> are you installng debian from 
2011-10-29 23:03 <kristianpaul> http://pyneo.org/howto/debian/nano.html ?
2011-10-29 23:03 <kristianpaul> i love tha pic :-D
2011-10-29 23:03 <kristianpaul> thaT
2011-10-29 23:03 <qwebirc46206> no, but i think i downloaded from their mirror
2011-10-29 23:04 <kristianpaul> k
2011-10-29 23:04 <qwebirc46206> yeah it is a nice pic
2011-10-29 23:05 <kristianpaul> ha, a bit sdr adc/dac ubb... damnn!! ;-)=
2011-10-29 23:05 <kristianpaul> i must leave
2011-10-29 23:05 <kristianpaul> take care
2011-10-29 23:05 <qwebirc46206> ok well thanks and see you on the mailing list
2011-10-29 23:05 <qwebirc46206> maybe
2011-10-29 23:18 <kristianpaul> a/bit/1 bit
2011-10-29 23:20 <wolfspraul> kristianpaul: wow great, it seems his Nano is already unbricked