2011-09-22 00:38 reading about o11s 2011-09-22 00:41 ah.. nothing new to the hw side :( 2011-09-22 00:42 o11s ? 2011-09-22 00:42 wpwrak: o11s.org 2011-09-22 00:42 some body asked me about iot today and i have no word to answer :) 2011-09-22 00:44 ah, mesh. probably boring :) 2011-09-22 00:45 yeah :) 2011-09-22 00:49 well, make alternatives networks to the internet/gms is a way to go, but.. based on what we already know about wifi well.. 2011-09-22 00:49 but i could be wrong 2011-09-22 02:49 wpwrak: http://cozybit.com/our-projects/embedded-networking/mobile-ipv6/ dont sound you familiar what they said? 2011-09-22 03:25 kristianpaul: yeah, vaguely familiar :) probably still centered around that mesh, though. so of questionable value. i don't quite buy the "flat mesh" meme. i can see the use of a two-layer mesh, with one layer the access and the other the interconnect between local area nodes, but that's usually not what people have in mind. 2011-09-22 03:28 well, the "flat" mesh could also make sense in cases where have plenty of power. the usual example is a group of tanks traveling in the desert. as your nodes get smaller, power becomes more and more an issue. i don't quite buy the "mesh your mobile phone" idea. not before batteries increase their energy density by maybe a factor for 10. 2011-09-22 03:30 another niche there a flat mesh makes sense are very low-traffic networks. but again, that's not what the average user is interested in. 2011-09-22 03:30 so meshes are often solutions intended for military or industrial uses hyped for consumer devices 2011-09-22 03:31 now what could possibly be wrong with that picture :) 2011-09-22 03:34 (traffic) yes the problem of the commons i guess 2011-09-22 03:34 heh, in a way yes :) 2011-09-22 06:23 [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf/eval.pl: process both programs (frame and vertex) and dump all assigned-to fixed registers (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/b3796c8 2011-09-22 06:23 [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf/: calculate effective register allocation and how it in comparison table (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/c5df76a 2011-09-22 06:23 [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf/tabulate: added HTML mode with highlighting (-h) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/69cfc40 2011-09-22 06:39 mmm interesting tutorial :) about implement arduino on FPGA http://pepevi.blogspot.com/2011/09/tutorial-emulacionsimulacion-de-arduino_16.html 2011-09-22 06:39 in spanish 2011-09-22 06:41 aha, they also discovered the potential of FPGAs. nice :) next challenge: do a real cpu ;-) 2011-09-22 08:39 there is an rtl for arduino? 2011-09-22 08:42 viric yes http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=36_68&product_id=511 2011-09-22 08:42 you mean RTC 2011-09-22 08:42 :) 2011-09-22 08:43 ops :P 2011-09-22 08:43 tuxbrain: sÃ³c a moscou, vaig quedar amb en kyak fa dos dies :) 2011-09-22 08:43 tuxbrain: m'ha regalat una plaqueta ubb 2011-09-22 08:44 tuxbrain: Ã©s molt trempat. 2011-09-22 08:44 :) espero que le hayas dado un abrazo de oso , que sea de mi parte retroactivo :) 2011-09-22 08:44 haha 2011-09-22 08:45 hombre eso se avisa :), has hecho fotos? 2011-09-22 08:45 hm no :D 2011-09-22 08:45 vas a tener una de las ubb con mas quilometros a cuestas :P 2011-09-22 08:46 que es rtl? 2011-09-22 08:48 ah un fichero vhdl!!! 2011-09-22 08:52 en el link que he puesto antes lo mencionanÂ Â http://pepevi.blogspot.com/2011/09/tutorial-emulacionsimulacion-de-arduino_16.html 2011-09-22 08:53 afaik, there is an avr vhdl ip core (it has been around for quite a long time), and that emulator is based on it 2011-09-22 09:00 tuxbrain: how's the spi going ? 2011-09-22 09:02 I'm seting up the atduino in slave mode based on this tutorial http://www.rocketnumbernine.com/2009/07/03/using-spi-on-an-avr-3/ , then I will retouch to be able to work with your code , compile your code and cross finguers that something happens 2011-09-22 09:02 good :) in the worst case, at least a cursing tuxbrain will happen :) 2011-09-22 09:06 The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-09212011-0501/ 2011-09-22 09:06 the linux 3.0 image ^ 2011-09-22 09:18 heheeheh, without programing the arduino at all, using spiio on ben , is emiting (pin13 led reacts as do when using avrdude) and it read garbage, so somthing is happens :P now let make that that something is the somthing I want :P 2011-09-22 09:20 (something happens) great ! ;) 2011-09-22 09:23 pin 13 (the led) is the SCK pin in arduino also , so I think is good news :) 2011-09-22 09:24 for the logs and courious the Arduino SPI library I will use is that one http://code.google.com/p/rocketnumbernine/downloads/list 2011-09-22 09:28 seems straightforward enough 2011-09-22 09:31 I hope 2011-09-22 09:32 :) 2011-09-22 09:33 the evil day star is rising. time for a nap ... 2011-09-22 09:34 dream with MOSI MISO SOMI MOIS SOMI etc 2011-09-22 11:50 hm 2011-09-22 11:50 flashed 2011-08-27 image 2011-09-22 11:50 keys are behaving strangely in gmenu2x 2011-09-22 11:51 R is not working 2011-09-22 11:51 so only L is usable 2011-09-22 11:51 R/L are for switching the tabs? 2011-09-22 11:51 yes 2011-09-22 11:51 as I understand 2011-09-22 11:52 and fonts are fuzzy.. 2011-09-22 11:52 or it may be my NN's screen 2011-09-22 11:52 I did remove the need of the Y and X (on gp2x) buttons on gmenu2x 2011-09-22 11:52 but I didn't touch the L/R buttons so they should be working fine 2011-09-22 12:02 hm.. any mount helper? 2011-09-22 12:03 or should I mount my SD by hands? :) 2011-09-22 12:54 ah.. that was broken card 2011-09-22 12:54 good one mounted automagically 2011-09-22 12:56 sh$t.. no mp3 decoder 2011-09-22 13:08 is it me, or w3m, lynx, elinks, links2, are all leaving margins without text at the left and the right of the page, in the terminals? 2011-09-22 13:21 open hardware/software is so open :( 2011-09-22 13:22 no wifi, no mp3.. 2011-09-22 14:55 tuxbrain: learning HDL, very nice !! 2011-09-22 15:00 viric: new ubb!! nice :) 2011-09-22 15:00 that rememnber i that vga out working for next month floss related event 2011-09-22 15:21 Hi guys 2011-09-22 15:22 hello 2011-09-22 15:22 I'm preparing to hold a talk about Nanonote and Milkymist at Szeged Hungary Software Freedom Day 2011-09-22 15:23 and I would like to have some background story of both devel platform 2011-09-22 15:23 if possible 2011-09-22 15:23 had you read both nanonote and milkymist wikipedia articles already? 2011-09-22 15:23 kristianpaul: yes 2011-09-22 15:24 I think they have some basic background, but if still not fill your needs feel free to ask 2011-09-22 15:24 ola`, what's new? :-) 2011-09-22 15:25 I think it's enough to know what was the new basic idea - or the origin 2011-09-22 15:25 and the year if possible 2011-09-22 15:25 well i think make, use sell copyleft hardware 2011-09-22 15:26 oops 2011-09-22 15:26 milkymist is think started by 2005, i thik ther are some related blog post in lekernel.net blog 2011-09-22 15:27 afaik he is not here right now to ask more 2011-09-22 15:27 and the nanonote? 2011-09-22 15:27 zoltanh7211: about qi check this post //www.openmobilefree.net/?p 2011-09-22 15:28 qi/nanonote yes 2011-09-22 15:28 http://www.openmobilefree.net/?p=130 2011-09-22 15:28 Thx Kristianpaul 2011-09-22 15:29 2009 jÃºl 14 2011-09-22 15:29 thx 2011-09-22 15:29 may be lars can add something? i just mets this projects 1 year and a half ago, 2011-09-22 15:30 this is a very rough timeline a draw up about a year ago: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/tmp/timeline.pdf 2011-09-22 15:31 oh thanks 2011-09-22 15:31 ah, and here's a more accurate list of dates, especially M1: 2011-09-22 15:32 http://pastebin.com/2i9QE4b6 2011-09-22 15:33 it's interesting to note that most of the predictions didn't come true :) 2011-09-22 15:34 btw about the milkymist - why VJ machine had been the target? Why this was the base idea 2011-09-22 15:34 ? 2011-09-22 15:35 e.g, Xue got unceremoniously buried, we still don't have a ya and even less a ya-mm, etc. 2011-09-22 15:35 thx 2011-09-22 15:35 (m1) probably because sebastien thought it would be a cool idea :) 2011-09-22 15:35 :) 2011-09-22 15:35 I will add this to the slide :) 2011-09-22 15:36 he was tired of carying its PC at 6am or soemthing 2011-09-22 15:36 as i remenber he coded an app fore VJing or similar, but i get he noticed soem constraights :) 2011-09-22 15:37 thx 2011-09-22 15:37 thars inaÂ Â slide from him. 2011-09-22 15:37 let me find better source, i dont trust my minf for thid 2011-09-22 15:37 ok, I'll wait 2011-09-22 15:38 zoltanh7211: http://lekernel.net/presentations/ one of this it is 2011-09-22 15:38 Checking 2011-09-22 15:38 remenber that of caryinf the pc adn 4 am, thas the slide ! 2011-09-22 15:38 i guess/hope :) 2011-09-22 15:39 ah yes, he mentioned the joy of carrying PCs around :) 2011-09-22 15:39 mobile computing, the hard way :) 2011-09-22 15:41 I want also turn nanonote into an portable tabletpc that could be an "smartphone" and desn't need too much modifications 2011-09-22 15:41 had you read werner talk from fsil first? :-) 2011-09-22 15:42 fsil** 2011-09-22 15:42 fisl*** 2011-09-22 15:42 argh 2011-09-22 15:42 :) 2011-09-22 15:42 nope but I will 2011-09-22 15:42 really, there is a video, very worth to wacth before your presentation i'm sure 2011-09-22 15:48 zoltanh7211: http://gibson.softwarelivre.org/static/2011/high/sala41a/sala41a-high-201106301300.ogv 2011-09-22 15:53 Thx Kristianpaul 2011-09-22 16:02 DocScrutinizer: hello 2011-09-22 16:03 Mya be you want to check the ogv link above 2011-09-22 17:32 Thanks for posting the link to the video 2011-09-22 22:24 hehe.. nn show me WSoD 2011-09-22 22:41 Wicked Screen of Depravity ? see, that's what you wouldn't get on those "clean" iPhones ;-) 2011-09-22 22:49 White Screen of Death :) 2011-09-22 22:49 battery is over 2011-09-22 22:49 now charging 2011-09-22 23:13 hello 2011-09-22 23:13 anyone familiar with UBI? 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Backlight: use different sysfs name for NanoNote and Dingoo. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/b997485 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Call deinit() method on exit. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/53a73ca 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Corrected name of USB power supply device. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/0acbd35 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Minor cleanup: group handle init code together. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/799bb13 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Minor cleanup: better usage of fscanf. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/84ec66c 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Use existing brightness value instead of overriding it. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/7a97822 2011-09-22 23:50 [commit] Maarten ter Huurne: Removed per-application brightness setting. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/e73a8d0