2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/mech/Makefile: updated board location for #2 face plate run (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/d39fbee
2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/mech/front.fpd: reduced width from 104 to 103.6 mm, LED hole from 6.9 to 6.2 mm (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/1717be8
2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/fw/: make loop use all front panel elements; set CH1/2 opto to open-drain (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/149be29
2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/LOG: updated with latest results (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f595b71
2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/BOOKSHELF: added the BAS16WT flyback diode (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/c90fa3b
2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/fw/: added EP0 commands; main loop now toggles (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/c4b1dd4
2011-09-06 07:22 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/tool/: basic labsw control utility (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/e98ea2b
2011-09-06 07:22 <ps2chiper> yo wolfspraul
2011-09-06 07:24 <wpwrak> hmm, some stuff has piled up :)
2011-09-06 07:32 <rejon> ha
2011-09-06 07:42 <wpwrak> rejon: btw, in terms of logo style, is what we've cooked up so far enough for what you need ?
2011-09-06 07:43 <wpwrak> bleech
2011-09-06 11:24 <optimistic> Any special trick to getting dingux software o work on the Ben? Everything I've tried has failed in one way or another (usually seg faults).
2011-09-06 11:27 <Ayla> the compatibility should be the same than with opendingux
2011-09-06 11:29 <Freemor> could it be lack of memory probs? do dingux machines have more then 32MB
2011-09-06 11:29 <Freemor> if so some swap might help
2011-09-06 11:29 <Ayla> it wouldn't segfault then
2011-09-06 11:32 <Freemor> hasn't had a chance to play with the Dingux stuff yet. (been too busy with frotz :) )
2011-09-06 11:32 <wejp> the A320 has 32 MB of RAM just like the Ben, so that shouldn't be the problem
2011-09-06 11:38 <optimistic> Frotz sounds fun on the Ben, any recommendations? Or other ideas about Dingux?
2011-09-06 11:39 <Ayla> you could try those ones: http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingux-releases/zx81%27s-emulators-for-opendingux/
2011-09-06 11:39 <Ayla> I believe they will work on the Ben without issues
2011-09-06 11:43 <Freemor> one sec moving sdlroids to my BNN to try..
2011-09-06 11:45 <Freemor> sdlroids works
2011-09-06 11:46 <optimistic> Just tested the PC Engine emulator from Ayla's link and it seems to work.
2011-09-06 11:52 <qi-bot> The build has FAILED, see log here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-09062011-0325/
2011-09-06 12:13 <DocScrutinizer> http://www.cymbet.com/products/enerchip-overview.php
2011-09-06 13:11 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system add recently new packages tig, txt2tags (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c8dae9e
2011-09-06 13:13 <lekernel> When evaluating EnerChip Solid State Batteries for your designs, it is important to review the Effective Capacity (EC) of each device. Since EnerChips can be charge cycled many thousands of times, an EnerChip has a similar energy storage equivalency per volume of much larger coin cell batteries. For example, the 50uAh EnerChip CBC3150 is rechargeable 5000 times at a 10% depth of discharge to 80% of rated capacity. This yields an EC of
2011-09-06 13:13 <lekernel>  25mAh using the conservative datasheet charge cycle specifications for this device. Therefore, the 10x smaller footprint EnerChip has the same effective capacity per unit volume of a much larger problematic coin cell battery.
2011-09-06 13:13 <lekernel> uhm
2011-09-06 13:13 <lekernel> this sounds a bit like number manipulation, no?
2011-09-06 13:14 <lekernel> "10x more energy density per volume! oh, yeah, I forgot, when recharged regularly" ...
2011-09-06 13:17 <wpwrak> yeah, i couldn't quite figure out why anyone would want to use these critters. they seem to be perfectly useless.
2011-09-06 13:17 <lekernel> for small RTCs?
2011-09-06 13:18 <lekernel> oh, and "Powering Internet of Things" of course :-)
2011-09-06 13:19 <wpwrak> dunno. i once did the calculations and they still fell short of a similar primary cell.
2011-09-06 13:19 <lekernel> though it doesn't explain how you are supposed to drive an ethernet cable or a wifi antenna on a 50uAh 3.8V battery
2011-09-06 13:19 <wpwrak> yes yes, new hypes need new snake oil ;-)
2011-09-06 13:20 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: feeds.conf: update to release revision (release_2011-08-27) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9432ee8
2011-09-06 14:05 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: data: nanonote: links: add download-dir (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/17bb938
2011-09-06 14:15 <solrize_> 50 uah could retain critical volatile data in some device while you change the main battery.  main application i can think of would be security keys since anything else could be written to flash.
2011-09-06 14:30 <aisa> .i coi ro do
2011-09-06 14:31 <aisa> How do I quit out of qemu and/or access a terminal?
2011-09-06 14:33 <aisa> I figured out how to access the terminal by using the wiki docs.  Still don't know how to quit gmenu2x.
2011-09-06 14:33 <aisa> qemu was a typo, above, I meant gmenu2x.
2011-09-06 14:35 <C-Keen> aisa: I usually switch to a different console (before I commented out the entry in ttys)
2011-09-06 14:36 <aisa> thank you, excellent.
2011-09-06 14:37 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/: quick hack to boot an M1 with the "regular" bitstream (from NOR) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/87aa1e7
2011-09-06 14:39 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/boot.bit: removed generated file, oops (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2ef6c7e
2011-09-06 14:41 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files mtd.nn silent u-boot (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5b8344f
2011-09-06 14:45 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot-xburst: enable-silent-console.patch (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2e876ca
2011-09-06 14:45 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot silent console (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/6e89505
2011-09-06 14:58 <aisa> yay!  Two NanoNotes flashed to the latest firmware.
2011-09-06 14:59 <C-Keen> aisa: I have decided not to start gmenu2x as it does not do anything useful for me
2011-09-06 14:59 <aisa> nods
2011-09-06 14:59 <C-Keen> aisa: this comes at a price, like writing your own automount stuff
2011-09-06 14:59 <C-Keen> for the microsd
2011-09-06 14:59 <aisa> I agree, I like booting right into the terminal, that's what I want when I boot my Nano.
2011-09-06 15:00 <aisa> I boot from microSD to do the upgrade,
2011-09-06 15:00 <aisa> meaning I got myself into gmenu2x a bit by surprise while doing the upgrade.
2011-09-06 15:01 <C-Keen> I wonder whether one could deploy the kernel as a bootlet so to get rid of uboot and to speed up boot time a bit but that's probably not worth the hassle
2011-09-06 15:01 <aisa> I barely keep up with development on this thing as it is, yeah.
2011-09-06 15:01 <C-Keen> aisa: I still need to port chicken
2011-09-06 15:01 <aisa> I used to keep a copy of OpenWRT all ready to go, so I could compile things; make changes; &c.
2011-09-06 15:02 <aisa> But it kept getting diddled with. :-/
2011-09-06 15:02 <C-Keen> heh
2011-09-06 15:02 <aisa> I'd really like chicken on this device.
2011-09-06 15:02 <aisa> I got stopped there for lack of a compiler.
2011-09-06 15:02 <C-Keen> me too
2011-09-06 15:02 <aisa> working compiler*
2011-09-06 15:02 <C-Keen> aisa: well it should work with the sdk's toolchain
2011-09-06 15:02 <C-Keen> but I need to set up a linux machine for that
2011-09-06 15:02 <C-Keen> qemu is too slow for me
2011-09-06 15:03 <C-Keen> (with openbsd's kqemu)
2011-09-06 15:03 <aisa> that actually turrns out to be my biggest problem, heh.  I have an OpenBSD box and a Mac, but no Linux box, save one running in VMWare, and that just doesn't cut it for fiddling with devices.
2011-09-06 15:03 <aisa> man, bitch bitch bitch I say.
2011-09-06 15:03 <C-Keen> same here
2011-09-06 15:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/Makefile: run UrJTAG in quiet mode (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2c896d8
2011-09-06 15:10 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/torture/: quick and dirty power-cycling test loop (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/96a5dd3
2011-09-06 15:30 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/mkboot: added comments with pointers to information sources (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/f3b2894
2011-09-06 15:38 <Freemor>  /buffer purge
2011-09-06 15:38 <Freemor> d'oh
2011-09-06 20:14 <crossblaim> hi
2011-09-06 20:14 <ps2chiper> hi
2011-09-06 20:16 <crossblaim> trying to download the latest firmware from http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/latest/ and it's slow as hell
2011-09-06 20:16 <crossblaim> any mirrors?
2011-09-06 21:55 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/jtag-boot/: moved explanation from mkboot to README and added more details (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/bcd12fe
2011-09-06 23:16 <wpwrak> hmm, somehow TI are a little smarter with their spam than STM. do they really think i'll fire up a web browser to read that HTML gibberish ?
2011-09-06 23:34 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: labsw/LOG: labsw occasionally doesn't do what it's told; described remedies (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/17ec8fa