2011-08-13 02:46 <kristianpaul> Ne-Brezhibni Protokol lea.hamradio.si/~s53mv/archive/a397.pdf
2011-08-13 08:20 <qi-bot> The build has FAILED, see log here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-08122011-0539/
2011-08-13 09:02 <kyak> qi-bot: you are a failure!
2011-08-13 12:32 <wpwrak> kyak: qi-bot doesn't seem to be in any hurry to pass the turing test :)
2011-08-13 13:37 <wpwrak> hmm, seems that the USB stack doesn't count CRC errors. that may be a worthwhile extension ...
2011-08-13 13:37 <wpwrak> (at least UHCI can provide this information, and the way it's used, it actually does)
2011-08-13 14:17 <viric> how is the status of ip over the atben and all that? 
2011-08-13 14:19 <wpwrak> still about the same as a month ago. i.e., dirtpan sort of works for simple things
2011-08-13 14:21 <wpwrak> still need to improve the driver to use the new more "intelligent" firmware features. but that won't happen for a few days. caught a flu. second one in this winter :-( and i don't trust my head with non-trivial code in that condition
2011-08-13 14:22 <viric> ok clear
2011-08-13 14:22 <viric> take rest :)
2011-08-13 14:35 <wolfspraul> wpwrak: oh wow, rest well. lots of sleeping and drinking (non-alcoholic :-))
2011-08-13 14:38 <wpwrak> jaegermeister actually helps :)
2011-08-13 14:40 <wpwrak> and i have my magic pills from canada that suppress the symptoms pretty well. but i know that any hour i'd spend hacking anything complicated now would result in something like four hours trying to find the weird bugs later :)
2011-08-13 17:34 <jivs> bartbes, managed to bypass the module compiling and compile guile fully but its not working on ben
2011-08-13 17:34 <jivs> just says Aborted and quits
2011-08-13 17:35 <bartbes> I imagine that might happen if it didn't get fully compiled
2011-08-13 17:35 <jivs> i guess we shouldn't skip the module compilation. need to just make it faster
2011-08-13 17:35 <bartbes> I mean, I would assume the host stuff is necessary
2011-08-13 17:35 <bartbes> oh is it supposed to take years?
2011-08-13 17:35 <bartbes> and years
2011-08-13 17:35 <jivs> i tried copying the /usr/share/guile content manually . didn't help
2011-08-13 17:36 <kyak> wpwrak: qi-bot would have answered if he wasn't so badly disappointed by the fact that he was a failure :)
2011-08-13 17:36 <bartbes> well, that's because they're not even the same version
2011-08-13 17:36 <jivs> yeah, i even left it running overnight...never completes
2011-08-13 17:36 <bartbes> perhaps it just swallows the errors
2011-08-13 17:36 <bartbes> because when I tried to run it manually I got an error straight away
2011-08-13 17:38 <jivs> i noticed GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE =0 stuff comes on the toolchain and it stucks but there is nothing  like this on the same stage if i make on the host machine
2011-08-13 17:38 <jivs> may be it has sthg to do but not sure
2011-08-13 17:40 <bartbes> I remember another program having problems with compiled std libraries
2011-08-13 17:40 <bartbes> perhaps it was gforth?
2011-08-13 17:40 <bartbes> anyway, can't we delay the module compiling till on the ben?
2011-08-13 17:40 <bartbes> on a semi-related note: did anybody get nanonote binaries to work with qemu, btw?
2011-08-13 17:42 <jivs> not sure abt module compiling delay
2011-08-13 19:47 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: regarding fancy prices, here's the projector to do with the M1: http://www.hdi3d.com/products.html
2011-08-13 19:47 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: the M1 will only be <1% of the price ;-))
2011-08-13 19:49 <wpwrak> most of the money probably goes into making those fancy cases. and "hand-made in the USA" ;-))
2011-08-13 19:51 <bartbes> mechanical hands, even
2011-08-13 20:16 <bartbes> jivs: "ERROR: Unbound variable: eval-when"
2011-08-13 20:16 <bartbes> apparently it was using the wrong guile
2011-08-13 20:16 <bartbes> so I made it use my system's guile
2011-08-13 20:16 <bartbes> that was the result
2011-08-13 20:17 <jivs> r u getting this error before it compiles the module?
2011-08-13 20:18 <jivs> I uninstalled guile 1.8 from my host machine if it will cause any conflict..
2011-08-13 20:26 <bartbes> as soon as it starts compiling the docs
2011-08-13 20:26 <bartbes> (which is before the scheme modules)
2011-08-13 20:32 <jivs> even with your patch to disable the docs?
2011-08-13 20:36 <[g2]> waves to wpwrak 
2011-08-13 20:37 <wpwrak> [g2]: how are things going ?
2011-08-13 20:38 <jivs> bartbes, i am now trying w/o the docs disabling patch. lets see if i strike the same error as you
2011-08-13 20:41 <[g2]> wpwrak, Ok thx and you ?
2011-08-13 20:49 <wpwrak> [g2]: currently not so good. caught a cold :-( the seasonal fun ...
2011-08-13 20:59 <[g2]> wpwrak, drink lots of Vit C and take Vit D.  Be well.
2011-08-13 21:00 <wpwrak> hmm .. gotta check what vitamins are in jaegermeister :) in any case, it works great against the cough :)
2011-08-13 21:09 <wpwrak> [g2]: how are the boards coming along ?
2011-08-13 21:11 <[g2]> wpwrak, I've done 3 revs of a plain arduino.  I need to make some tweaks for v0.4
2011-08-13 21:12 <[g2]> wpwrak, have you seen these ? http://www.dresden-elektronik.de/shop/prod111.html
2011-08-13 21:13 <[g2]> that's kinda the module I'd want to do, except all open.
2011-08-13 21:15 <wpwrak> they used a decent chip. not the old 230 but the new 231
2011-08-13 21:20 <wpwrak> you could use the same MCU if you want to. combines MCU (alas, without USB) with the transceiver.so you save board space, component count, and get slightly better EMC
2011-08-13 21:20 <wpwrak> drawback: you can't change to a different MCU so easily
2011-08-13 21:35 <lekernel> should try your jaegermeister remedy :)
2011-08-13 21:35 <[g2]> wpwrak, love talking but must run now.
2011-08-13 21:36 <wpwrak> [g2]: ah, sports ;)
2011-08-13 21:36 <wpwrak> lekernel: camp too wet ? :)
2011-08-13 21:36 <[g2]> wpwrak, you are correct about MCUs.  Really though,  a $15 6lowpan solution would be a great place to start.
2011-08-13 21:36 <[g2]> wpwrak, you're funny.
2011-08-13 21:36 <[g2]> wpwrak, also did you see the zigduino ?
2011-08-13 21:37 <wpwrak> (zig) sure :)
2011-08-13 21:38 <[g2]> cheers mate, be well.
2011-08-13 22:08 <bartbes> can qi-bot store messages for someone?
2011-08-13 22:12 <bartbes> qi-bot: tell jivs does this work?
2011-08-13 22:12 <bartbes> guess not..
2011-08-13 22:13 <bartbes> I remember it having a similar feature