2011-07-29 01:34 [commit] Werner Almesberger: ptrude/: path extrusion, work in progress (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/d4c96f1 2011-07-29 05:33 Could someone possibly point me where to get the newest kernel source that has support for the ks7010 driver? Also, and for some reason, I am unable to compile the "qi-" kernels, and have them actually boot without a VFS error. 2011-07-29 05:34 It seems the only tree that I could find that works, is the "JLime" flavor of kernel sources.. 2011-07-29 05:51 http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=silhouette 2011-07-29 06:09 marcan: there's silhouettes for you :-) 2011-07-29 06:09 http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=silhouette 2011-07-29 06:48 ignatius_: too bad I don't know, we need to wait until xiangfu or someone else knowledgeable is back 2011-07-29 06:51 Ok. Thanks. 2011-07-29 07:28 ignatius_: your problem is probably related to rootfs size 2011-07-29 07:28 it is 512 Mb now 2011-07-29 07:29 you probably still have 256 2011-07-29 07:30 the ks7010 driver is available in the latest trunk image, though i can't confirm that it works (it builds and loads fine) 2011-07-29 07:37 Well, i'm using the Debian "Lenny" UBI image. And compiled my own kernel (2.6.34?) on top of that. Some how, some time had passed, and I went to try to recompile the kernel, and that went fine. However, I did find a few (2-3) differend pre-compiled kernels that did boot, instead of dying at MTD rootdrive detection. 2011-07-29 07:38 And also, I found some source (JLime) that when compiled provides a bootable kernel. 2011-07-29 07:39 I don't understand what the difference is in the various kernels. The ones that boot and the ones that don't. Is it some sort of kernel patch i'm missing? 2011-07-29 07:45 Eh. I meant to say that going back to recompile the kernel, that once was bootable, after recompiliation yielded a kernel that wouldn't boot. 2011-07-29 07:49 So, basically, I just want a nice kernel with ks7010 support. On top of the Debian "Lenny" filesystem. 2011-07-29 07:53 ignatius_, is there are some kernel log? 2011-07-29 07:53 ignatius_, ks7010 you have to plug-in it before powerup. 2011-07-29 07:53 hotplug not working. 2011-07-29 07:55 Hold on.. need to reinstall the kernel that does boot. 2011-07-29 07:58 ignatius_, you using the new latest u-boot. there is POWER+F4 can load a kernel inside your ubi rootfs. 2011-07-29 07:58 then you don't needs to reflash your kernel partition. :) 2011-07-29 08:01 Damnit. My system isn't set up to log previous sessions. (No /var/log/messages) 2011-07-29 08:01 Oh? Where can I download it from? :) 2011-07-29 08:04 ignatius_, http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/OpenWrt_Software_Image#Image_2011-05-28 2011-07-29 08:04 F4 will load kernel inside the ubi rootfs of nand.(we need put kernel at /boot/uImage) 2011-07-29 08:04 this feature implement at Image 2011-02-23 2011-07-29 08:08 Ok. Thank you. I appreciate it. 2011-07-29 09:52 I think I will uptick mediawiki on the qi server 2011-07-29 09:52 had too many problems with thumbnails for videos lately, and there is hope for bugfixes 2011-07-29 10:37 alright, update time. let's hope this doesn't end in a bricked wiki :-) 2011-07-29 10:37 Have you done some backups? 2011-07-29 10:47 homepage comes up, not bad :-) 2011-07-29 10:47 akiwiguy: nah, come on :-) 2011-07-29 10:48 yes and no 2011-07-29 10:48 nothing is perfect 2011-07-29 10:48 yes there is an rsync mirror, but a live mysql db cannot be mirrored like that 2011-07-29 10:48 and yes I run a manual mysqldump around such an upgrade, but if it would fail fatally any real restore from a backup would be painful still 2011-07-29 10:48 the reality is, once I update, I need to solve all problems in a forward way 2011-07-29 10:48 if there's a bug, track it down and fix it 2011-07-29 10:49 Yeah... 2011-07-29 10:49 some of my patches still didn't make it upstream, too bad 2011-07-29 10:49 have to poke again 2011-07-29 10:49 :P 2011-07-29 10:49 on some new servers I'm using neat lvm snapshots 2011-07-29 10:49 that works quite well 2011-07-29 10:49 Cool. 2011-07-29 10:49 so I actually have the full process of restoring from a snapshot documented in advance 2011-07-29 10:49 but not that that machine yet, it's a bit older 2011-07-29 10:50 What purpose does fidelio serve, btw? Is it the buildhost? 2011-07-29 10:50 yes 2011-07-29 10:50 the setup is documented here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Server_setup 2011-07-29 11:01 Heh, I had never seen that wiki page before :P 2011-07-29 11:01 I really can't believe that's all documented 2011-07-29 11:12 akiwiguy: oh yes, definitely documented. I need to keep things maintainable. 2011-07-29 11:12 wiki update seems to have been very smooth, what a great work the MediaWiki folks are doing 2011-07-29 11:13 I've had to update a MediaWiki powered wiki once 2011-07-29 11:13 It completely died. 2011-07-29 11:14 :-) 2011-07-29 11:20 hmm, oh well, some pages don't display 2011-07-29 11:20 let's see... 2011-07-29 11:22 Some "community news" pages are not displaying for me 2011-07-29 11:25 yep. be patient. 2011-07-29 11:26 And it works again 2011-07-29 11:28 yes. 1-line bug in the OggHandler extension. was lucky to find it fast. 2011-07-29 11:30 akiwiguy: I'm sure there will be more bugs, please let me know if you see anything. 2011-07-29 11:31 Okay. 2011-07-29 11:38 Well, time to get some sleep. 2011-07-29 11:38 Good night. 2011-07-29 17:33 [commit] Werner Almesberger: ptrude/: cleanup and addition of comments (WIP) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/dcb1c78 2011-07-29 17:33 [commit] Werner Almesberger: ptrude/: more comments; copyright headers; improved Makefile (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/188cf9d 2011-07-29 17:33 [commit] Werner Almesberger: ptrude/: proper command-line handling; open -d for debug mode (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/3dcd5cc 2011-07-29 17:33 [commit] Werner Almesberger: ptrude/: added (overly, this far) simple extruder (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/cae-tools/c202eda 2011-07-29 23:44 wolfspraul: btw, considering the assumption that, if you were to advertize a Ben as, say, an MP3 or H.264 player, you'd get into legal trouble, even if you didn't provide (or ship with) the software yourself, where does it originate ? 2011-07-29 23:45 wolfspraul: i.e., if this something you heard was mentioned in a case that went to court ? or did you get it from some of openmoko's legal inquiries ? or did you just figure it out on your own from first principles ? 2011-07-29 23:45 tuxbrain: regarding making pcbs. cutting the board to shape and making the holes is a lot of work and it really helps if you can let the machine do it 2011-07-29 23:45 wpwrak: 500 Openmoko cargo hijacked by Sisvel to pulster 2011-07-29 23:46 wpwrak: (etching) no balcony in the new destination 2011-07-29 23:46 tuxbrain: for the toner transfer, you can achieve very high precision. the main problem with the etching are the fumes. not for health concerns (well, as long as you don't massively exaggerate things), but for chloride attacking metals. 2011-07-29 23:47 tuxbrain: hmm, a terrace or a garden maybe ? or a patio ? 2011-07-29 23:47 nop a second floor without elevator, good windows but no real exterior exit 2011-07-29 23:47 (pulster) but those gta02 has mp3 software installed. that was a much more direct violation. 2011-07-29 23:48 (windows) okay, maybe get a fan then ;-) 2011-07-29 23:48 slew/delay 2011-07-29 23:48 can you hang a plastic box outside the window without anyone complaining ? 2011-07-29 23:48 VIctor is the PCB man and he HATES to etch, 2011-07-29 23:49 i could  make a loop that write slew until find a interestint threshold.. but i need to understand intterupts.. at least by polling at first 2011-07-29 23:49 hahaahah  I don't think this is even posible , to much traffic below the window 2011-07-29 23:49 may be not the classical etching way? 2011-07-29 23:49 something more controled and industrial-like way? 2011-07-29 23:49 tuxbrain: what acid has he used so far ? maybe it's just the wrong chemistry. i also used to hate it before i found HCl+H2O2. not i'm pretty cool with it :) 2011-07-29 23:50 i think he use the clasic one.. :) (that EVERYONE hates) 2011-07-29 23:50 kristianpaul: (industrial etching) i think the FeCl stuff is used in industry. i've heard that HCl+H2O2 is too, though. 2011-07-29 23:51 nice 2011-07-29 23:51 and yes, second think i hate is making holes and cutting the boards, so a PCB become very handy :-) 2011-07-29 23:52 I CNC I guess :P 2011-07-29 23:53 best wishes with the engraving :-) 2011-07-29 23:57 kristianpaul: yeah, when i need to make a board, i prepare the files, then walk down to my workshop, select the position, load the drill bit, do "make drill", go back and chat for a few minutes, then go down, remove the drill and insert the endmill, then "make mill", and a few minutes later, i can pry out the board :) 2011-07-29 23:57 kristianpaul: if i wan to make a dozen, then i instruct my script accordingly :) 2011-07-29 23:58 also fyi tuxbrain before cnc and mechincal stuff, chemical was used for all kind of process like etching and even additing 2011-07-29 23:59 what helps a lot with toner transfer is a plastifier. that way, you get consistent quality.