2011-07-22 02:45 Well, I finally figured out why none of the kernels (previously compiled and by myself) worked; I'm using Debian on the NanoNote. I found a patch file after scouring the net for solutions, but i'm not knowledgable to covert it to use a current kernel source tree. 2011-07-22 02:46 So... anyone know where I can get kernel source that would work for me? 2011-07-22 04:08 hm, this is what gcc generates for lm32 vfork. http://pastebin.com/Jn8rAXVK is there a way to force it to save ra and r11 on the stack after scall has been executed? 2011-07-22 04:15 ignatius_: maybe you need to ask on the mailing list. there are only very few people who use debian on the nanonote 2011-07-22 10:17 Anyone here is currently in Beijing? 2011-07-22 16:58 https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/27719/ 2011-07-22 16:58 this is how easily wide char support gets killed :) 2011-07-22 17:02 kyak: argh 2011-07-22 17:02 why he does not want wide char? 2011-07-22 17:04 viric: don't worry, the bug report is already there :) 2011-07-22 17:07 ok 2011-07-22 17:08 in the nanonote... what provides the functionality of painting characters to the screen? Is it uboot with some tables? 2011-07-22 17:08 and what is the status of booting directly linux? 2011-07-22 17:09 i think it's the linux kernel that draws on the screen 2011-07-22 17:09 if i understood you correctly 2011-07-22 17:11 uboot writes to the screen 2011-07-22 17:11 it says that it loads the kernel 2011-07-22 17:11 (at least in my nanonote) 2011-07-22 17:12 ah, you mean the early stage 2011-07-22 17:12 I'm curious... who has the tables of characters? :) 2011-07-22 17:12 both uboot and the kernel? Or the hw has them? 2011-07-22 17:14 I should read uboot I imagine. 2011-07-22 17:14 But there are so much ifdef, that it's mad to follow tha.t 2011-07-22 17:15 iirc, cbrowser has some functionality about preprocessing 2011-07-22 17:15 it would be nice. 2011-07-22 18:35 The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-07212011-1510/ 2011-07-22 19:26 viric: you'll find tables in u-boot, the kernel, your GUI toolkit (or X), etc. 2011-07-22 19:26 ah ok 2011-07-22 21:20 okay, problem tracked, there is a problem with CC  briged at the wb_ack_o signal 2011-07-22 21:21 wich seems not to reach the wishbone master ever, geting it ina frozen state... 2011-07-22 22:32 [commit] Werner Almesberger: cad/test1/: experiment with Free scripted CAD systems (OpenSCAD and Cadmium) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2db4c1a 2011-07-22 22:50 17:47 < kristianpaul> a SIE-like board with a 4760 SoC? 2011-07-22 22:50 17:47 < kristianpaul> no fpga, for at least let enought IO for expasion 2011-07-22 22:50 17:48 < kristianpaul> s/for/but 2011-07-22 22:50 17:48 < kristianpaul> easy to fit to wolfgang previous idea about 640x480 LCM with resistive touch interface 2011-07-22 22:52 kristianpaul: the next "arduino killer" ? :) 2011-07-22 22:53 wpwrak: dunno, also dont find directly relation with 2011-07-22 22:53 for me, ther are some boards called papilo wich implement arduino in fpga 2011-07-22 22:53 agaik,not kicad design but floss i think 2011-07-22 22:53 if you ask me for an arduino killer, my opinion is that 2011-07-22 22:57 hmm, an FPGA is an expensive way to kill the arduino 2011-07-22 22:59 or cheap ARM socs eventually will 2011-07-22 22:59 you can kill arduino, but not 8 bits MCU's :) 2011-07-22 23:01 anyway, i just was thinking _mainly_ that droping keyboard from the same PCB, may lead to less layer board 2011-07-22 23:01 USB way to go :-) 2011-07-22 23:01 the keyboard consumes one layer, yes 2011-07-22 23:02 and i wonder if the other extra layers is just becase the mess to route stuff because the keyboard been top layer 2011-07-22 23:02 but a USB keyboard for a portable device ? i mean, in the days of the Osborne 1, this would have been quite okay, but today ... ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1 2011-07-22 23:07 hey, Osborne 1 is a kinda big.. 2011-07-22 23:08 keyboards are small and handy, but still the issue that stand it easilly... 2011-07-22 23:09 as is not integrate in the same case, as i undertood.. 2011-07-22 23:11 today we have portable tablet-like devices and keyboars like a desktop addon 2011-07-22 23:11 but yeah, still a bit messy for something not in desktop 2011-07-22 23:11 s/in desktop/stand 2011-07-22 23:16 also, do you really want to make something that will be compared to things like he iPad ? 2011-07-22 23:16 he... 2011-07-22 23:17 may be something like the kindle? if the usb keyboard is integrated in same case some how... 2011-07-22 23:23 or not usb keyboard? ISP. I2C? well i'm not aware of sourcing of think kind of stuff.. 2011-07-22 23:23 just gets more difficult. well, you can always make your own 2011-07-22 23:23 and just get more diffcult :-) 2011-07-22 23:24 but do you agree at least of separate keyboard from cpu pcb? 2011-07-22 23:25 i think it's easier to have them all together, like in the ben 2011-07-22 23:26 ok 2011-07-22 23:27 but same clamshell style? 2011-07-22 23:28 i would go for this, yes 2011-07-22 23:28 protects the display, too 2011-07-22 23:28 hum,good point 2011-07-22 23:28 mechanically, the hinge is a bit of a challenge, though 2011-07-22 23:28 same size as well? 2011-07-22 23:29 yeah, or at least very similar