2011-07-18 00:02 <errordeveloper__> hi!
2011-07-18 00:02 <errordeveloper__> I just found the WPAN project
2011-07-18 00:03 <errordeveloper__> excellent! I was considering this idea at some point ..though haven't got all the PCB skills and time for working on this
2011-07-18 00:03 <errordeveloper__> http://wmi.new-synth.info/projects/wmi/wiki/Development_Hardware_Options#Drop-in-Interface
2011-07-18 00:04 <errordeveloper__> that's a bit on my wiki which covers that :)~
2011-07-18 00:04 <mth> wpwrak_ is the one who designed the WPAN
2011-07-18 00:04 <mth> the channel is rather quiet today though
2011-07-18 00:04 <errordeveloper__> any how ... I'm glad to find this channel so I'll stick around :)
2011-07-18 00:04 <mth> anyway, I'm going to bed now
2011-07-18 00:05 <errordeveloper__> mth: me to ..
2011-07-18 00:05 <errordeveloper__> it's 1am here
2011-07-18 00:05 <mth> 2 am here
2011-07-18 00:05 <errordeveloper__> :)~
2011-07-18 00:17 <kristianpaul> hi and wellcome, errordeveloper__ :)
2011-07-18 00:27 <GitHub36> [milkymist] kristianpaul pushed 9 new commits to gps-sdr-testing: http://bit.ly/qiBUFz
2011-07-18 00:27 <GitHub36> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] top code clean up plus pin definition renamed to real-mode - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 00:27 <GitHub36> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] added module for flag crossing - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 00:27 <GitHub36> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] added test bench, WIP - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 00:55 <kristianpaul> all good so far,  i can read teh hw id from the namuru, afaik... seems endianess aligment pop up.. but i was already fixed in hw i tought.
2011-07-18 00:55 <kristianpaul> let see
2011-07-18 00:56 <kristianpaul> afaik i cant run rtems... i guess is something in my soc, but so far i'll stick on mm1 bios hacking :-)
2011-07-18 00:58 <kristianpaul> or milkymist demo, hum i guess i should have some code about interrupt handling wich is my first concern now
2011-07-18 00:58 <kristianpaul> well, once i verify NCO is working..
2011-07-18 01:28 <kristianpaul> where is the nanonote when you need to solve some equations...
2011-07-18 01:39 <kristianpaul> ah, got it, carrier_nco should be computed based on IF, that fore SiGe 4162 i real mode is 2.556 Mhz
2011-07-18 01:40 <kristianpaul> and also namuru run at 16.348 Mhz, instead of the 40Mhz of the original namuru
2011-07-18 01:42 <kristianpaul> fControl (aka carrier_nco) = 2^30 * 2.556 / 16.384
2011-07-18 01:42 <kristianpaul> easy :)
2011-07-18 02:14 <GitHub88> [milkymist] kristianpaul pushed 1 new commit to gps-sdr-testing: http://bit.ly/pyrkRW
2011-07-18 02:14 <GitHub88> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] Update carrier nco comments to fit SiGE 4162 in realmode - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 03:44 <kristianpaul> okay, i'm cofuse there is a accumulator interrupt period, that is 500us
2011-07-18 03:45 <kristianpaul> i cant be upper than 1 ms,
2011-07-18 03:45 <kristianpaul> this is rasoable and is related to gps specs i remenber
2011-07-18 03:46 <kristianpaul> but there isalso a register called TIC, wich is recomended to set to 100ms period
2011-07-18 03:46 <kristianpaul> well, this should be the interupt flag,
2011-07-18 03:47 <kristianpaul> man i forgot what is that 1 ms in GPS spects, i thnk is a chip but i need to cofirm with the book
2011-07-18 03:49 <wpwrak_> :)
2011-07-18 03:57 <GitHub4> [milkymist] kristianpaul pushed 4 new commits to gps-sdr-testing: http://bit.ly/r9CtqB
2011-07-18 03:57 <GitHub4> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] Minor name fix - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 03:57 <GitHub4> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] Minor value fix - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 03:57 <GitHub4> [milkymist/gps-sdr-testing] comment on code nco update to SiGE 4162 real mode - Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas
2011-07-18 03:58 <kristianpaul> damn bot dint show last commit..
2011-07-18 04:31 <kristianpaul> brb, cold wind at midnight.. time to close windows :)
2011-07-18 04:32 <kristianpaul> okay, i think i have all right values now
2011-07-18 04:33 <kristianpaul> ahh, the problem with endianess..i forgot
2011-07-18 05:28 <kristianpaul> damn,inverted "soft" reset signal that explain all those zeros..
2011-07-18 05:28 <wpwrak_> ;-)
2011-07-18 05:30 <kristianpaul> it tought i wasn lacking resgister initialization, but i see now there was something else..
2011-07-18 05:59 <kristianpaul> ha, this namuru code is full of surprises, like why the accumulator register was 32 bits then it was commented and now is 16.
2011-07-18 05:59 <kristianpaul> most if are you supposed to get navigation data from it... i need find tresholds, but that will be tomorrow i hope
2011-07-18 05:59 <kristianpaul> gn8!
2011-07-18 07:25 <errordeveloper__> hm .. so is the "8:10" card slot effectivelly an sd card or not at all ?
2011-07-18 07:26 <wolfspraul> errordeveloper__: yes, like microsd
2011-07-18 07:31 <errordeveloper__> it's just the matter of branding .. isn't it ?
2011-07-18 07:32 <errordeveloper__> so the wpan module will work in any sdio slot ...
2011-07-18 07:33 <wolfspraul> hmm, that I'm not sure sure, we have to ask wpwrak_ 
2011-07-18 07:33 <errordeveloper__> :)
2011-07-18 07:33 <wolfspraul> you need to run Linux on that machine for sure, and you may need certain access to the sdio pins
2011-07-18 07:35 <wpwrak_> errordeveloper__: no, atben doesn't speak SDIO. you need to talk SPI to it. it de facto means that you need to be able to bitbang
2011-07-18 08:16 <larsc> i.e. your sd-card host pins have to be accessible as gpio pins
2011-07-18 08:36 <errordeveloper> wpwrak_: I'm not worried about the SDIO so much
2011-07-18 08:37 <errordeveloper> just the eclectrical and geometrical compatibility
2011-07-18 08:37 <errordeveloper> I
2011-07-18 08:38 <errordeveloper> i.e. - would it fit in a card slot at work with linux on ... well say a laptop or a beagle board ..or sheeva plug ..
2011-07-18 08:38 <wolfspraul> you need to be able to drive the individual pins, I think
2011-07-18 08:38 <wpwrak_> errordeveloper: if there's enough space, then it would fit, yes. the contacts are like on a uSD card
2011-07-18 08:39 <wpwrak_> errordeveloper: but you must be able to bit-bang your pins. your average laptop can't do that
2011-07-18 08:39 <wolfspraul> for that you need to check the manuals/datasheets of the controllers that are driving the sd/sdio peripheral
2011-07-18 08:39 <errordeveloper> ok, so it will be down to the host controller and the driver for it
2011-07-18 08:39 <wpwrak_> errordeveloper: and you should be able to disable/enable the 3.3 V voltage supply (to reset the chip)
2011-07-18 08:39 <errordeveloper> yeah
2011-07-18 08:40 <wpwrak_> errordeveloper: (reset) you may be able to get away with just doing power-on reset, though. but that's a bit risky.
2011-07-18 08:44 <errordeveloper> wpwrak_: I had been using contiki and the Econtag hardware
2011-07-18 08:45 <errordeveloper> I really want to have direct communication between a linux host and wpan
2011-07-18 08:45 <errordeveloper> I had already discovered that sdio can be used for a drop-in solution
2011-07-18 08:46 <errordeveloper> though at the time I could only find Speactec products
2011-07-18 08:47 <errordeveloper> which is a very obscure chinese brand
2011-07-18 08:47 <errordeveloper> http://wmi.new-synth.info/projects/wmi/wiki/Development_Hardware_Options#Drop-in-Interface
2011-07-18 08:48 <wpwrak_> errordeveloper: if your linux host has USB, you could use atusb. there, you can put whatever you want into the AVR. you have up to 28 kB to play with :)
2011-07-18 08:49 <wolfspraul> errordeveloper__: Spectec is not obscure, you can consider it a real 'brand' almost
2011-07-18 08:49 <wolfspraul> it's a Taiwanese company, not Chinese
2011-07-18 08:49 <wolfspraul> the real obscure stuff is very different ;-)
2011-07-18 08:50 <wolfspraul> Spectec is a brand company, and care for quality quite a bit. I can recommend the company, in general. You will also not find obscure Spectec clones, because the brand is too small for that.
2011-07-18 08:50 <wolfspraul> the only thing to watch out is that their website is more a wishlist, what they really have in stock is maybe 10% of those products
2011-07-18 08:50 <wolfspraul> the others can be built if you order 1000 or more
2011-07-18 08:51 <wolfspraul> it's a small company in Taipei, 20-30 people
2011-07-18 08:51 <errordeveloper> wl
2011-07-18 08:51 <errordeveloper> l
2011-07-18 08:52 <errordeveloper> wolfspraul: yeah, just the spectec website is really badly designed
2011-07-18 08:52 <wolfspraul> sure
2011-07-18 10:30 <errordeveloper> hm .. I can see that there is also #milkymist channel
2011-07-18 10:30 <errordeveloper> well, I quite like the idea ..tough not that much of a visuals person
2011-07-18 10:32 <wpwrak_> you can also ignore all the pretty graphics and do just FPGA hacking ;) although the graphics are nice to behold
2011-07-18 10:32 <wolfspraul> errordeveloper: yes correct, the #qi-hardware channel is mostly meant about copyleft hardware, manufacturing, ben-wpan, ben nanonote, etc.
2011-07-18 10:32 <wolfspraul> whereas #milkymist all starts with the milkymist ic design, then the milkymist one video synthesizer... at some point there's the overlap to #qi-hardware :-)
2011-07-18 10:33 <wolfspraul> you can be relaxed in both channels though, nobody will complain about off-topic since it's all connected
2011-07-18 10:33 <wpwrak_> particularly not here
2011-07-18 10:41 <errordeveloper> kewl
2011-07-18 11:05 <errordeveloper> a) I kind of really need to change the job and 
2011-07-18 11:05 <errordeveloper> oops
2011-07-18 13:10 <jivs> greetings
2011-07-18 13:10 <jivs> need some help with reflashing nanonote
2011-07-18 13:11 <jivs> I am trying to reflash nanonote with my own toolchain's images
2011-07-18 13:11 <jivs> I get all the three files I need for reflashing from toolchain i.e. u-boot.bin, uImage.bin and root.ubi
2011-07-18 13:12 <jivs> i can flash it successfully with the script, but nothing loads after the "starting kernel" message
2011-07-18 13:13 <jivs> what might be causing this? boot loader, kernel or rootfs ?
2011-07-18 13:13 <jivs> plz help
2011-07-18 13:27 <kyak> did you flash all bootloader, kernel and rootfs?
2011-07-18 13:28 <jivs> yes all of them
2011-07-18 13:29 <kyak> should be fine then.. strange
2011-07-18 13:31 <jivs> yes it is, taking alot of time
2011-07-18 13:31 <jivs> what do you think might be troublesome by looking at that situation
2011-07-18 13:31 <kyak> there are some tasks to complete on first boot, but you should be brought to gmenu2x interface anyway
2011-07-18 13:32 <jivs> doesn't go further than "starting kernel"
2011-07-18 13:32 <jivs> even if i get the terminal with al+ ctrl f2 , i will be happy
2011-07-18 13:32 <kyak> do you build based on the release image or the one from trunk?
2011-07-18 13:32 <jivs> then i can ssh to it
2011-07-18 13:33 <jivs> i tried both of them, but current one is from trunk
2011-07-18 13:35 <kyak> i can only suggest that you start a new clean build
2011-07-18 13:36 <jivs> kyak, done at least in 3 new toolchain
2011-07-18 13:37 <kyak> did you follow the isntruction here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image exaclty?
2011-07-18 13:38 <jivs> i am trying to figure out which out of three is faulty, rootfs, kernel and bootloader
2011-07-18 13:38 <jivs> yes 
2011-07-18 13:40 <kyak> can you upload your .config and build_dir/linux-xburst_qi_lb60/linux-2.6.37.6/.config somewhere?
2011-07-18 13:41 <jivs> kyak,  plz wait
2011-07-18 13:43 <jivs> http://pastebin.com/yK5qaCZD .config
2011-07-18 13:46 <jivs> http://pastebin.com/RCiQdDbR build_dir config
2011-07-18 13:53 <kyak> your configs are different from default ones
2011-07-18 13:53 <kyak> not sure if it causes any problem, but you should try building from scratch based on default configs
2011-07-18 13:54 <kyak> i.e. cp feeds/qipackages/nanonote-files/data/qi_lb60/conf/config.full_system .config
2011-07-18 13:54 <kyak> the kernel config is different, too
2011-07-18 13:55 <jivs> i have tried building with the default config as well
2011-07-18 13:55 <kyak> has sound build as modules
2011-07-18 13:55 <kyak> not sure where you got it
2011-07-18 13:55 <kyak> it has been built in kernel for some time now
2011-07-18 13:55 <kyak> i have to go now, sorry
2011-07-18 13:56 <jivs> kyak, thanks for ur time
2011-07-18 13:56 <jivs> i will try with the .config from wiki again
2011-07-18 13:56 <jivs> hopefully will work.
2011-07-18 15:06 <kyak> jivs: and do it from scratch. Previous (older) builds can mess up your compilation
2011-07-18 15:50 <wolfspraul> does anybody know whether the fisl videos are up for download now?
2011-07-18 15:53 <kristianpaul> i think rejon should push for that, or wpwrak_ ....
2011-07-18 15:54 <kristianpaul> i may be wrong but tv.softwarelivre.org looks not very updated, as the major tag is fro m 2009 :-(
2011-07-18 15:55 <kristianpaul> 404 <- http://tv.softwarelivre.org/category/tags/fisl/fisl12 bad sign for me
2011-07-18 15:55 <kristianpaul> ori'm looking bad place sinec fisl over :(
2011-07-18 15:55 <kristianpaul> s/sinec/since
2011-07-18 15:57 <wpwrak_> kristianpaul: the site is a mess :-(
2011-07-18 15:57 <wolfspraul> sebastien was quick enough to take his own snapshot for most of Jon's talk
2011-07-18 15:57 <wolfspraul> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Fisl12_rejon_milkymist_20110702.ogv
2011-07-18 15:58 <wolfspraul> but the begining is a bit messy, and werner's talk is missing entirely
2011-07-18 15:58 <wolfspraul> so I was hoping to find a proper download at some point before the next news
2011-07-18 15:58 <kristianpaul> wpwrak_: claim for you maaterial to FISL ! :)
2011-07-18 15:59 <kristianpaul> or thing will neverbe there for sure
2011-07-18 16:00 <kristianpaul> the page dint look like ccc video recondirg page or other floss related events indeed
2011-07-18 16:00 <kristianpaul> bad :(
2011-07-18 16:01 <wpwrak_> i already asked them. they weren't quite sure what was happening. the problem is that the conference is run by a company that does conferences. so they have all their weird tools and procedures. the free software folks aren't quite welcome to mess with that. they take care of program and content.
2011-07-18 16:01 <wpwrak_> in the old days, everything was handled by free software people. but it just became too much work for them.
2011-07-18 16:02 <wolfspraul> what does this mean? where is the download link?
2011-07-18 16:02 <wolfspraul> :-)
2011-07-18 16:02 <kristianpaul> mean on download link anytime soon, (i hope i'm wrong )
2011-07-18 16:02 <kristianpaul> s/on/no
2011-07-18 16:02 <wpwrak_> it's supposedly *somewhere* in the pipeline :)
2011-07-18 16:02 <wolfspraul> just kidding, I know you cannot do anything either
2011-07-18 16:03 <wolfspraul> so Sebastien was 100% right
2011-07-18 16:03 <wolfspraul> keep your tech in order, capture the stream, move
2011-07-18 16:03 <wolfspraul> very Chinese
2011-07-18 16:03 <wpwrak_> yeah ;-)
2011-07-18 16:03 <wolfspraul> worst case have a cam on tripod ready, film off your notebook
2011-07-18 16:03 <wolfspraul> no questions, no delays, no licenses, just pure fun
2011-07-18 16:03 <wolfspraul> :-)
2011-07-18 16:04 <wolfspraul> so I guess no werner talk for now, too bad
2011-07-18 16:05 <wolfspraul> we had similar cases in the past, with Bas supposedly giving a superb talk at FOSDEM 2010
2011-07-18 16:05 <wolfspraul> lost in cyberspace forever...
2011-07-18 19:54 <tuxbrain> hi dudes :)
2011-07-18 19:54 <tuxbrain> hi wolfspraul!
2011-07-18 19:56 <rejon> hi
2011-07-18 19:57 <tuxbrain> hi rejon :)
2011-07-18 19:57 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: hi
2011-07-18 19:58 <tuxbrain> videos and presentations will be collected next week but the f4hc on Bilbao was a great success :) a lot of interesting people knows now about Qi!
2011-07-18 19:58 <wolfspraul> ah btw, I like your laser stuff
2011-07-18 19:58 <wolfspraul> just a little overloaded
2011-07-18 19:58 <wolfspraul> I added marcan's blog to the qi planet
2011-07-18 19:58 <wolfspraul> we can think about a way to hookup a laser pointer to m1
2011-07-18 19:59 <wolfspraul> one thing I dont' understand is how they go from a laser pointer to a laser that can be positioned on x/y coordinates?
2011-07-18 19:59 <wolfspraul> it seems they use audio to encode the picture? I need to read some more...
2011-07-18 20:00 <wolfspraul> maybe we can include a future laser pointer in m1, who knows. if I can source it for a few USD and we can connect it and get it to work etc. then of course, why not :-)
2011-07-18 20:00 <wolfspraul> but first I need to understand this stuff more, and I don't even have time to look into it right now
2011-07-18 20:00 <wolfspraul> it's 4 AM here :-)
2011-07-18 20:05 <tuxbrain>  :) breif summary ,the laser is "moved" by mirrors conected to servo motors, trhough the "audio" using the ILDA protocol you pass X,Y, bright data to the microcontrolers that moves the servos. and tada laser projector :P
2011-07-18 20:06 <kristianpaul> hola :)
2011-07-18 20:08 <tuxbrain> I will reconect in short
2011-07-18 20:09 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: wow. and the motors and mechanical reaction of the mirror are fast enough?
2011-07-18 20:09 <wolfspraul> :-)
2011-07-18 20:09 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain is a busy man!
2011-07-18 20:09 <tuxbrain_away> wolfspraul: yes I see them in action with a DIY one
2011-07-18 20:11 <wolfspraul> interesting
2011-07-18 20:26 <roh> nice. which kind of servos? normal rc-model stuff?
2011-07-18 20:32 <tuxbrain> let me search if I found some info on the projector
2011-07-18 20:35 <tuxbrain> Ah! here it is http://marcansoft.com/blog/openlase/hardware-mark-1/
2011-07-18 20:39 <tuxbrain> roh: the servos with mirrors for laser are called galvos
2011-07-18 20:41 <tuxbrain> is matter to find a good cheap source from china :)
2011-07-18 20:48 <tuxbrain> roh: http://spacelas.com/html_products/35k-scanning-system-31.html seems the new version of the one's  that marcan is using in his DIY projector, seems they cost arround 88$ (~30k points per s) the full kit, higher res (50k points per s) is about 250$
2011-07-18 20:58 <roh> tuxbrain: yeah. was already wondering which servos would be fast enough
2011-07-18 21:01 <tuxbrain> what amaze me is that he wants to do a RGB laser... how he will align them to go out a a same beam? 
2011-07-18 21:03 <tuxbrain> well watever, I have see it in action and I just see a MM conected to the Laser projector and with a vga projector and techno music louder as hell :)
2011-07-18 21:08 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: me preguntaron en el f4hc como iba el proyecto GPS :)
2011-07-18 21:09 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: fui lo mas evasivamente educado posible vi unos cuantos ojos brillar con el tema
2011-07-18 21:24 <kristianpaul> tuxbrain: espero tener buenas noticias la proxima semana, almenos de la recepcion de detoas de navegacion
2011-07-18 21:25 <kristianpaul> interesante, preguntaron algo especifico? o esperan algo especial?
2011-07-18 21:28 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: que funcione y que sea barato :P
2011-07-18 21:28 <kristianpaul> jajaj
2011-07-18 21:29 <kristianpaul> funcionara, eso si,pero el precio se sale de mi tema..
2011-07-18 21:29 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: genial lo de los datos de navegacion :), espero ansioso las novedades
2011-07-18 21:29 <tuxbrain> ya eso ya es cosa del wolfi y mia
2011-07-18 21:29 <tuxbrain> o si se apunta alguien mas of course
2011-07-18 21:29 <kristianpaul> estos chips no son costosos, almenos  no de Maxin, el detall es la orden minima
2011-07-18 21:30 <tuxbrain> de momento eso que me has dicho me gusta :), necesita mucho procesador extra? se podria hacer un modulo para arduino?
2011-07-18 21:32 <kristianpaul> procesador sip, bueno si haces todo en software es lo mas seguro, pero por ejemplo el nanonote podria hacer el procesamiento de la se~nal, pero no esperes mas luego
2011-07-18 21:33 <tuxbrain> talking about arduino modules: who was here interested/skilled to develop an Arduino version of the atben/atusb? also DocScrutinizer you were almost skilled in rf , how about bost mA of emision on the atben/atusb?
2011-07-18 21:33 <kristianpaul> arduino, bueno, poder si, pero ya seria a nuestro nivel una board con fpga que emulara un receptor de gps hasta entregar datos NMEA..
2011-07-18 21:33 <kristianpaul> why arduino version?
2011-07-18 21:33 <kristianpaul> atben is mor that ready i think, just missing the lib/stack for it
2011-07-18 21:34 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: I have some inertia in the arduino world and the target is quite wider than ben 
2011-07-18 21:34 <kristianpaul> sure sure
2011-07-18 21:34 <kristianpaul> my point was, i think the hardware as it is is re-usable
2011-07-18 21:34 <kristianpaul> (i dont have nothing against arduino* btw)
2011-07-18 21:34 <tuxbrain> also is easier to enter in the oem world though arduino than from ben
2011-07-18 21:35 <kristianpaul> OEM, oh really?
2011-07-18 21:35 <kristianpaul> i tought was merelly hobbist and artits..
2011-07-18 21:35 <tuxbrain> yep, I have some costumers planing to do machines directly with arduino mini integrated in the board :)
2011-07-18 21:37 <kristianpaul> so is also ready to industrial grade?
2011-07-18 21:37 <tuxbrain> they prototipe with UNO and then integrate with mini, is quite straigh fordward and adds not too much cost , an arduino mini clone I source is about 6¬
2011-07-18 21:38 <tuxbrain> is atmega chips industrial grade :P
2011-07-18 21:38 <tuxbrain> ?
2011-07-18 21:39 <kristianpaul> dunno
2011-07-18 21:39 <kristianpaul> will be good to know :)
2011-07-18 21:40 <DocScrutinizer> tuxbrain: I'm available for development. What was it you were interested in?
2011-07-18 21:40 <kristianpaul> may be an arduino atben shield :)
2011-07-18 21:40 <tuxbrain> well whatever I'm talking about coffee machines , milds and some not critical dosificators.
2011-07-18 21:40 <tuxbrain> yes that's the idea
2011-07-18 21:40 <tuxbrain> an atduino shield :)
2011-07-18 21:41 <kristianpaul> nice, name !
2011-07-18 21:42 <DocScrutinizer> bbl
2011-07-18 21:42 <tuxbrain> but actual power (10m) is a little scarce to real applications, we must to empower the signal to achieve at least 100m optimal 1'5Km
2011-07-18 21:43 <tuxbrain> hi DocScrutinizer!
2011-07-18 21:44 <tuxbrain> ok bbl is bye bye later :P , bye DocScrutinizer :)
2011-07-18 21:46 <kristianpaul> yeah, i still thinking about at* boards because power...
2011-07-18 21:48 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: of course fisrt is to stabilize the soft with the ones we have but as is, they are enough for this right now, but I want to start thinking and make think others what is the best approach for that two goals atduino and +mA, and/or if this goals make sense to make them at time, an 10meters RF on arduino is almost useless, or at least hard to sell
2011-07-18 21:49 <tuxbrain> but also maybe there is away in the arduino software side with what we have as is, conenectinging in some fancy way an atben or atusb
2011-07-18 21:50 <tuxbrain> there is away in the -> there is a way to advance in the
2011-07-18 21:52 <kristianpaul> i see, so you see that 10m is better sellable among arduinos, wich are most commmon for short distances apps right?
2011-07-18 21:52 <tuxbrain> I can provide with material(Arduino/atben/atusb) to anyone that want to try :)
2011-07-18 21:52 <tuxbrain> of course with the promise he will try hard :)
2011-07-18 21:53 <kristianpaul> i dont mind having a low speed than wifi, but at least same/near range transmit power :)
2011-07-18 21:53 <kristianpaul> to be honest :)
2011-07-18 21:54 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: I agree, or even more if possible :)
2011-07-18 21:55 <tuxbrain> kristianpaul: Gps arduino , which fpga chip will be needed to make to that NMEA conversor? very expensive?
2011-07-18 21:56 <kristianpaul> expensive yes.. :(
2011-07-18 21:57 <kristianpaul> well, we'll see, first make it work well, later optimize :)
2011-07-18 22:07 <tuxbrain> sure kristianpaul, don't want to unfocus the actual developer work :) nor on GPS or AT*, I just want to draft the lines of what I would like to be Tuxbrain nexts steps on hardware production.
2011-07-18 22:09 <kristianpaul> sure,is wise from you to tell us what you can buy/invest next :)
2011-07-18 22:19 <tuxbrain> Also I want to know if I'm wrong in advance :)