2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/usb/: added support for bulk IN EP 1 http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/244e449 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/: added reporting of RF interrupts via bulk EP1 http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/0120f62 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: libatrf: new function atrf_interrupt_wait for interrupt-driven wait for interrupt http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e6f0a1d 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/: added interrupt_wait support to atusb and atusb-spi driver http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/110ecf6 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: libatrf: new function to reliably flush interrupts http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/620709a 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/: updated tools to use flush_interrupts http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/b0dd5ce 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/: added interrupt_wait support to atnet and atrf-proxy (untested) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/668d8c6 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/atrf-xmit/atrf-xmit.c: corrected title comment http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/106ef7f 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/timeout.h, tools/lib/timeout.c: added timeout/deadline functions http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/4d4cec6 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/atben.c: added support for interrupt_wait (polled) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/55354c7 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/: major overhaul of wait_for_interrupt; uses atrf_interrupt_wait now http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/b4a6e8e 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atrf-xmit/atrf-xmit.c: updated to no longer use atrf_interrupt http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/b7276d2 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/atben.c (atben_interrupt_wait): complain about stray interrupts http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/9952a20 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/misctxrx.c (flush_interrupts): don't fall back to reading IRQ_STATUS http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/76707d6 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/: disable INT0 if manipulating GPIOs (tentative) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/12fef1b 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/: the great removal of atrf_interrupt http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/d0fb1a8 2011-06-21 00:31 [commit] Werner Almesberger: libatrf: simplify use of atrf_interrupt_wait now this it is mandatory http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/10b6d88 2011-06-21 01:30 ~cough~ messybox 2011-06-21 01:32 if infobot/apt was here, I'd ask her to tell about messybox 2011-06-21 02:10 ok then http://thisismynext.com/2011/06/20/nokia-n9-lankku-leaks-images-renders/ 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/atben.c (atben_interrupt_wait): don't time out if timeout_ms == 0 http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/70715a1 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/atrf-proxy/: make WAIT 0 wait forever http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/f4ca3ae 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/atusb (led): show keys to press in reverse http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/b2c7727 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/misctxrx.c (wait_for_interrupt): don't fragment timeouts http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/cb20c55 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/lib/atusb-common.c (atusb_interrupt_wait): don't try to pull more irqs http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/f8f2f89 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb/fw/: new request ATUSB_GPIO_CLEANUP to re-enable INT0 http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/f7b9a18 2011-06-21 02:16 [commit] Werner Almesberger: tools/atrf-gpio/atusb.c (restore_gpios): send ATUSB_GPIO_CLEANUP http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/b0b04ed 2011-06-21 02:30 rejon: we should announce our FISL talks on the qi-hw list. do you think the hours are reasonably dependable now ? 2011-06-21 02:30 i haven't seen mine 2011-06-21 02:30 no idea 2011-06-21 02:30 agree on announce 2011-06-21 02:31 rejon: you have two talks, Sat Jul 02 13:00 Qi-Hw. Sat Jul 02 17:00 Open Clip Art 2011-06-21 02:32 i have one more on the 30th i just found out too, but that is another story, about acawiki.org 2011-06-21 02:32 ok, sure, sounds like they are set 2011-06-21 02:32 rejon: a bit of an evil schedule 2011-06-21 02:32 rejon: wow, 3 talks ! you'll be hoarse ;-) 2011-06-21 02:33 yeah, its a bit out of hand 2011-06-21 02:33 its ok, rather be busy than not 2011-06-21 02:37 kyak: Hi 2011-06-21 02:37 kyak: I committed the 'backfire' branch on both openwrt-package and openwrt-xburst 2011-06-21 02:40 kyak: I think this time we using another method to rename the 'trunk' to 'master' 2011-06-21 02:41 kyak: maybe git push origin trunk:master, then we don't need modify the server config file, (I remember last time we rename the branch by 'git br -m' cause some more works) 2011-06-21 03:01 cat urls.audio 2011-06-21 03:01 er. 2011-06-21 03:02 n/m :) 2011-06-21 04:33 i HOPE YJE nOKIA n9 COMES TO MARKEY IN usa SOON. SWEEET. mEEGO BASED. 2011-06-21 04:33 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/MeeGo/ 2011-06-21 04:37 anyway the often quoted mantra of N900 "It's NOT a phone, it's a computer" seems to shift to "it's not a computer" for N9 2011-06-21 04:38 hmmm 2011-06-21 04:38 http://shop.embedded-projects.net/index.php?module=artikel&action=artikel&id=46 2011-06-21 04:38 oops ECHAN 2011-06-21 04:38 whatever they say in marketing-ese the device looks good 2011-06-21 04:39 thats basically a xmega based atusb 2011-06-21 04:41 at86rf230 ? I think..? 2011-06-21 04:43 roh: any news on cases or logo? 2011-06-21 04:43 rjeffries: afaik thats the predecessor of the one on the atusb/ben 2011-06-21 04:43 wpwrak: nope 2011-06-21 04:44 eh wolfspraul 2011-06-21 04:44 do you have a timeline? 2011-06-21 04:44 all parts are there, right? 2011-06-21 04:44 wolfspraul: all beside the acryllic. 2011-06-21 04:44 I'm working on the last pieces on my end :-) box, labels, remote control seems almost settled too 2011-06-21 04:45 wolfspraul: pushin the final order there today 2011-06-21 04:45 ah yes, please 2011-06-21 04:45 timing is still good, but it's getting tighter slowly :-) 2011-06-21 04:46 my biggest concern is the gluing. the mill iss still not working and i need metal holders to align the small discs properly 2011-06-21 04:47 mill not setup/working in the new place yet? 2011-06-21 04:48 ack. same with the laser. 2011-06-21 04:49 ok, got it 2011-06-21 04:49 its getting a new cooling setup... i completed the exhaust last week 2011-06-21 04:49 The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.trunk-full_system-06202011-0123/ 2011-06-21 04:49 ok, well I wish you good luck, we need those cases soon... 2011-06-21 04:49 roh, rjeffries: (at86rf230) a crappy predecessor. good luck with all its race conditions ;-) 2011-06-21 04:49 its loads of details moving so many machines needing a lot of 'support framework' to operate afzer all 2011-06-21 04:50 I can imagine. talk is cheap, I know how much work you have there to really deliver a full case... 2011-06-21 04:50 I'll ping you again towards the end of the week or so 2011-06-21 04:50 as long as box, labels and other stuff are still moving you are not the last one :-) 2011-06-21 04:52 well.. i wish i could just focus on one thing every day.. but currently its a wild mix of everything to keep stuff going. quite annoying and tiring 2011-06-21 04:52 roh: btw, have you updated your m1 recently? it's getting quite nice to use now :-) 2011-06-21 04:53 but i guess as long as you dont buy over a hundred cases a month from me that will not happen soon ;) 2011-06-21 04:53 wolfspraul: nope.. no time yet. 2011-06-21 04:53 one by one. But I do need those 80 soonish... 2011-06-21 04:53 I will keep you posted, as discussed. 2011-06-21 04:54 on one hand there is no need to stress out while other parts are in the making, on the other hand I want to avoid that the entire project is stuck at the end because we wait for cases. 2011-06-21 04:54 so I balance between those two... 2011-06-21 04:54 sure. 2011-06-21 04:54 roh: btw, if you want to go the 230 route, there's the ATMEGA128RZ series. avr, not avr32. built-in rf230. all going EOL, of course. 2011-06-21 04:55 wpwrak: ah. nope.. i didnt want to go anywhere. just noticed it in that shop 2011-06-21 04:56 wpwrak: btw.. atxmega vs atmega.. big diffence. 2011-06-21 04:56 roh: ah :) yeah. nice. but already obsolete :) i'm quite glad we could switch to the 231. i had some qualms about the 230. 2011-06-21 04:56 atxmega is that thing between avr32 and avr. like a 'big brother' to the avr. 2011-06-21 04:56 roh: don't know the xmega. fresher patents, i suppose ? ;) 2011-06-21 04:57 wpwrak: but good to know that the 230 and the 231 are that different 2011-06-21 04:57 wpwrak: its quite nice. has some really cool added features.. cleaned up the io pinning a bit.. faster, bigger. still really cheap. 2011-06-21 04:57 roh: 230 has some bugs. like incoming packets overwriting old not yet retrieved packets. so you have to be very very quick. the 231 can avoid that. 2011-06-21 04:57 stuff like msample adc/dac and some irq framework which makes it nice for 'realtime' stuff 2011-06-21 04:58 roh: then the 231 has the higher data rates. and they cleaned up some more things. ah yes, if you care about external RF PA or antenna diversity, then it's also the 231 and not the 230 2011-06-21 05:00 roh: (xmega) hmm. so they dropped the fossils of avr. that would be a good move indeed ;-) 2011-06-21 05:01 its very similar. but different 2011-06-21 05:02 rejon: I find it so amazing how the networks in the US are racking up prices on wireless data now 2011-06-21 05:03 all but one have now removed the (never really) 'unlimited' data plans 2011-06-21 05:03 and the new plans are _expensive_ 2011-06-21 05:03 from am arduino board re xmega: "Event System" that enables the peripherals, in conjunction with the DMA controllers, to do a lot of "common" things without having to involve the CPU at all.Â Â Aside from allowing higher performance if the CPU is awake, this also allows the CPU to spend more time in assorted SLEEP modes, consuming less power. 2011-06-21 05:03 someone wants to reap the rewards of their investment dollars 2011-06-21 05:04 a 2GB plan 30 USD / month, a 10 GB plan 80 USD / month (just reading about Verizon) 2011-06-21 05:04 wo;s[taul what doe you pay in China for a data plan? 2011-06-21 05:06 yeah, not sure wolfspraul 2011-06-21 05:06 seems like they are getting cheaper to me 2011-06-21 05:06 which prices do you see? 2011-06-21 05:07 I was just comparing with atben, so atben can transmit 30KiB/sec, that means a little less than 10 hours for 1 GB 2011-06-21 05:07 if 1 GB at Verizon costs 8 USD now, that means atben can save you 20 USD a day :-) 2011-06-21 05:09 wolfspraul: now we just have to bridge those few extra kilometers ;-) 2011-06-21 05:44 uhm. there are avrs with fpga cells? 2011-06-21 05:44 http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_devices.asp?category_id=&family_id=627&subfamily_id=&tool_id=2752 2011-06-21 05:44 well hidden on the page. wouldnt have found it without wikipedia and google 2011-06-21 05:44 xiangfu: ping 2011-06-21 05:45 xiangfu: before i did anything wrong, how should we do it this time? 2011-06-21 05:53 ah.. but it seems eol-ed somehow.. also 6 years old http://www.design-reuse.com/news/10280/atmel-fpslic-ii-dynamically-reconfigurable-soc-supports-silicon-sharing-peripherals-interfaces.html 2011-06-21 06:02 kyak: hi 2011-06-21 06:02 kyak: I think I will run 'git push origin trunk:master' then 'git push origin :trunk' 2011-06-21 06:03 it's like overwrite, not rename(the last time we switch branch, we using git branch -m, which cause a little issue) 2011-06-21 06:03 kyak: if you think it's ok, I will run that now :) 2011-06-21 06:07 then for other people, git pull is enough. 2011-06-21 06:08 hm 2011-06-21 06:08 just one question 2011-06-21 06:09 you will overwrite the master branch with trunk contents 2011-06-21 06:09 does it mean we will loose history of master? 2011-06-21 06:10 also, 'git push origin :trunk' means you would like to keep the trunk? 2011-06-21 06:11 what for? 2011-06-21 06:11 (for fun: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6) 2011-06-21 06:11 heh yeah 2011-06-21 06:11 kyak: delete the remote trunk branch 2011-06-21 06:11 kyak: (lost master) no, I already commit a branch name 'backfire' 2011-06-21 06:12 ah, so you already saved the state of 'master' 2011-06-21 06:12 yes. 2011-06-21 06:12 i think it' sgood then :) 2011-06-21 06:13 i also hope the history of 'trunk' in openwrt-packages will get restored somehow 2011-06-21 06:13 currently it is lost for newly commited files 2011-06-21 06:13 you mentioned it is due to caching 2011-06-21 06:14 but not anymore it is not :) 2011-06-21 06:14 maybe this git web thing is not good at tracking other branches than 'master' 2011-06-21 06:17 kyak: shoudl not. the 'master' should same as other only different is the name. 2011-06-21 06:17 there is a merge come from dvdk. 2011-06-21 06:18 yup 2011-06-21 06:18 you mean openwrt-xburst right? 2011-06-21 06:18 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-packages/source/tree/trunk/ascii-paint 2011-06-21 06:19 all newly added/modified files don't have history in web ui 2011-06-21 06:19 no age, no message 2011-06-21 06:19 nothing 2011-06-21 06:19 newly added -> i mean, in comparison to 'master' 2011-06-21 06:26 kyak: that a little bit strange. no age, no message 2011-06-21 06:27 kyak: I will do the rename on openwrt-package now. let see what happen 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: alex4: use left shift as fire key (left control missing on Nanonote) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/af0b29d 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: gtkguitune, swap left and right interface patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/221303d 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: reflash_ben.sh using -O in wget http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/3ecb2ca 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: alex4: move save-files to ~/.alex4.* http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/7d8785d 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: octave: fix fortran compile flags, enable parallel compilation http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c33acf0 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: plplot: make compile again with openwrt trunk; switch to using cmake.mk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/01b5b15 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: new package: ASE: allegro sprite editor, a generic drawing and animation program http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/6829840 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: ase: hack gui to emulate mouse via keyboard; change keymap to not interfere. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5c9e2b8 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: ase: improved keyboard-mouse support: filter out arrow keys unless shift pressed http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/33f9a73 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: liballegro: fix keyboard driver issues with nanonote's Fn key http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/47a2f3f 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: liballegro: yet another keyboard fix for 'Fn' key. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0244a53 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: ase: fix handling detection of number keys for zoom, ignore 'Fn' (LCONTROL) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/33eec1c 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: liballegro: make the fbcon fixes really water-tight (fix really all cases). http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a82661f 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: config.full_system (on trunk): add liballegro, alex4 and ASE (aseprite) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/f0b4b19 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: config.full_system (on trunk): enable libdumb, needed by alex4 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a84f7d3 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] kyak: Store/restore alsa settings correctly. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ec8d8f8 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] kyak: dega: add md5sum for tarball http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d8162a7 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: liballegro: change the keybord driver fix to tread RCONTROL as before (as CTRL) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/026792a 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: ase: another keymouse fix: keep F1-F3 mouse-buttons from causing key events. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/cd0c7ce 2011-06-21 06:27 [commit] kyak: vitetris: terminal-based Tetris clone http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c8ada0d 2011-06-21 06:28 so, i'll try to git pull now 2011-06-21 06:28 hm. can we just disable that feat of the bot? its 'not helping' having it flooding the channel 2011-06-21 06:28 no, it's totally helpful 2011-06-21 06:28 it only floods sometimes 2011-06-21 06:28 during rebase 2011-06-21 06:29 not when its flooding lots of commits in that style. is really hard to read so everybody will use a browser of git client anyhow. one line with a link to that would be enough. 2011-06-21 06:29 instead of 2 screens full 2011-06-21 06:29 xiangfu: i will now 'git co master; git pull', right? 2011-06-21 06:29 roh: it's usually just one line 2011-06-21 06:31 kyak: wait 2011-06-21 06:34 roh: we limit it to 20 lines now, we can limit it further to 10 or so 2011-06-21 06:34 kyak: it should works fine. but I advice, 'git co -b temp; git br -D master; git co -b master origin/master' 2011-06-21 06:34 but it gives an impression of a git merge so I don't think it's completely useless 2011-06-21 06:34 back when we had 500 lines it was not so much fun :-) 2011-06-21 06:35 hrhr.. the bot wasnt kicked due to flooding? 2011-06-21 06:35 kyak: make sure the 'master' is right. then you can remove the 'temp' and 'trunk' 2011-06-21 06:35 nah, the bot slows down 2011-06-21 06:35 it's a bot, it knows how to play the game... 2011-06-21 06:37 kyak: 'git co master; git pull' will cause small problems, since there are some file leave by 'trunk' and not delete in you local disk, remove those files should works fine. 2011-06-21 06:38 xiangfu: following your advice, something is not right... 2011-06-21 06:39 i was in trunk branch, i saved it with 'git co -b temp'. Then deleted master 'git br -D master'. Then stashed my changed 'git stash'. Then checkout remote master 'git co -b master origin/master' 2011-06-21 06:39 now i try to restore my stashed changed 2011-06-21 06:39 *changes 2011-06-21 06:39 by theere is a conflict 2011-06-21 06:39 but there shouldn't be any conflict 2011-06-21 06:40 because i went there right from trunk, which is master now 2011-06-21 06:41 kyak: have you run 'git fetch -a' first? 2011-06-21 06:41 nope 2011-06-21 06:41 update your local origin/* 2011-06-21 06:41 that's a good idea :) 2011-06-21 06:41 it's needs run 'git fetch -a' first sorry 2011-06-21 06:41 yep, i udnerstand now 2011-06-21 06:41 or you master still the old :) 2011-06-21 06:42 yeash 2011-06-21 06:42 if it's works fine in your side, let's do this on openwrt-xburst, then send email to list. 2011-06-21 06:47 ok, everything went fine 2011-06-21 06:48 i will now remove local trunk and temp 2011-06-21 06:49 xiangfu: will you remove remotes/origin/trunk as well? 2011-06-21 06:51 kyak: in the server side, it's already removed, in locally, we need run 'git remote pruneÂ Â origin' 2011-06-21 06:52 cool :) 2011-06-21 06:55 kyak: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.trunk-full_system-06202011-0123/failed_packages.txt cool, thanks, not much package failed to build. 2011-06-21 06:55 yeah, just several packages 2011-06-21 06:56 and they are not too important 2011-06-21 07:57 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot-xburst: update to 2010.06 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bf95bd7 2011-06-21 08:00 xiangfu: the last commit? :) 2011-06-21 08:00 kyak: yes 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Mirko Vogt: add http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a37eea9 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0f43545 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [xburst] Improve mounttime http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c868d46 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote optimize http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/c1dba4c 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu:Â Â Add-gfortran-compiler-support-to-the-toolchain http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/cf4b099 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: add kernel patch for setfont2 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/dd385c4 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/797be6b 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: config-2.6.37: enable battery, disable RNDIS http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a3d8a8b 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: patches-2.6.37: support for Ben NAND partitioning http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/83f076a 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: linux kernel: add CONFIG_PROC_PAGE_MONITOR=y to allow for clean user-space DMA http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/fbaf655 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: config-2.6.37: enable options needed for keymouse http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e74aa2b 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: trunk: fix kernel keymap for VolUp/Down and Del http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b35d1cf 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: trunk: build sound modules in kernel http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0942c36 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: trunk: add ks7010 support patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5e6fcae 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: base-files, move it to openwrt-package/nanonote-files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/cbc84e1 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: uboot-xburst: don't install empty dir http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bce1b8d 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] kyak: Disable syslogd and klogd http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/467647c 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: Merge branch 'trunk' of projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-xburst into trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3ab1444 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] David KÃ¼hling: cmake.mk: fix bogus values for FIND_ROOT_PATH_MODE_*; kept plplot from compiling http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e1cbfbf 2011-06-21 08:01 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: uboot-xburst: update to 2010.06 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bf95bd7 2011-06-21 08:03 xiangfu: should be get rid of that merge by dvdk? 2011-06-21 08:03 kyak: when rebasing. 2011-06-21 08:04 i'm trying to push dvdk's last fix for cmake upstream: https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/9573 2011-06-21 08:04 perhaps we can rebase after it's accepted 2011-06-21 08:04 yes. 2011-06-21 08:06 kyak: done on openwrt-xburst. please test again : http://dpaste.com/556876/ 2011-06-21 08:06 yep, doing it now 2011-06-21 08:08 xiangfu: it went very well :) 2011-06-21 08:09 xiangfu: now, the history in web ui is restored 2011-06-21 08:10 I am sending the email, then update the script file, (maybe the old http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/compile-openwrt-xburst.sh,Â Â will works fine) 2011-06-21 08:13 xiangfu: i'll just add one lien to compile-openwrt-xburst.sh (to create failed_packages.txt) 2011-06-21 08:14 kyak: you can compare the compile-openwrt-xburst-trunk.sh and compile-openwrt-xburst.shÂ Â a little. then we just remove the compile-openwrt-xburst-trunk.sh. 2011-06-21 08:14 ( it's a bot, it knows how to play the game...) LOL 2011-06-21 08:14 kyak: then update 'compile-openwrt.sh' 2011-06-21 08:14 moinmoin everybody 2011-06-21 08:14 xiangfu: btw, there is a git repo in ~/bin 2011-06-21 08:19 xiangfu: ok, i think compile-openwrt-xburst.sh should be ready now 2011-06-21 08:21 xiangfu: should i stop the current build and restart it with compile-openwrt-xburst.sh? 2011-06-21 08:23 yes. let's do it 2011-06-21 08:25 I think we should remote the entire openwrt-xburst.trunk-full_system, useless from now on. 2011-06-21 08:29 i left the tree latest trunk-full_system, just for us to check if something goes wrong 2011-06-21 08:30 oh, you mean the build directory itself 2011-06-21 08:31 i suggest that we wait until the openwrt-xburst.full_system-06212011-1026 build is finished 2011-06-21 08:31 I mean the ~/openwrt-xburst.trunk-full_system 2011-06-21 08:31 the build image is fine 2011-06-21 08:31 kyak: yes. that sounds better. 2011-06-21 08:32 DocScrutinizer: moin 2011-06-21 08:33 xiangfu: i removed the link public_html/openwrt-xburst.trunk-full_system to avoid confusion.. Let's keep it locallly for some time :) 2011-06-21 08:33 yes 2011-06-21 08:38 so now we wait :) 2011-06-21 09:41 unrelated: Nokia announced their new phone N9 2011-06-21 09:41 no hw kbd, capacitive ts... pffff 2011-06-21 09:41 no uSD slot, double-plus-PFFFF 2011-06-21 09:42 now if at least it came with dual-sim 2011-06-21 09:44 no OTG, no hostmode - three extra loud PFFFF LOSER 2011-06-21 09:45 why they release it then? :) 2011-06-21 09:45 it have no difference with 1xxx series :) 2011-06-21 09:46 indeed 2011-06-21 09:46 they promised a "meego" devie for this year though 2011-06-21 09:46 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=551420#post551420 2011-06-21 09:46 oops not this one :-D 2011-06-21 09:46 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N9-00/ 2011-06-21 09:47 actually the first link point to a better phone 2011-06-21 09:56 the worst thing is that the SW platform is more dead than alive 2011-06-21 09:58 indeed, 'meego'(maemo)-harmattan seems stillborn 2011-06-21 09:59 and it's but-ugly 2011-06-21 09:59 back-to-winCE design and concept 2011-06-21 09:59 incredible 2011-06-21 10:00 anyway on popular demand I applied for a N950 N9-developer-device 2011-06-21 10:00 let's see if that's at least a bit better, usability wise, as it got a hw kbd 2011-06-21 10:02 *allegedly* hw is identical, modulo the slide-out kbd 2011-06-21 10:03 well, if my Nokia patrons speak up to get me one of the 250 devel devices... 2011-06-21 10:04 I really don't get it why they don't market N950 rather than or in addition to N9 2011-06-21 10:04 allegedly CE cert problems, muhahaha 2011-06-21 10:05 if Nokia boggles to print that CE self-issued cert icon on their box, then for sure there's sth severely odd with the hw 2011-06-21 10:07 DocScrutinizer: i read that N950 has some disadvantages to N9 2011-06-21 10:08 half the ram at least 2011-06-21 10:08 TFT LCD 2011-06-21 10:08 worse battery 2011-06-21 10:08 if that 1GB ram of N9 isn't marketing speak again 2011-06-21 10:08 no warranty 2011-06-21 10:08 ooh, no amoled, naaawww 2011-06-21 10:08 it doesn't matter for you, right? :) 2011-06-21 10:08 no warranty? lol, they lend me the thing 2011-06-21 10:09 where is this article... 2011-06-21 10:09 though it seems Nokia never reclaimed their lend-outs 2011-06-21 10:09 too expensive 2011-06-21 10:10 might be different here, given the limited number of devices available 2011-06-21 10:10 i heard about 250 2011-06-21 10:10 yep 2011-06-21 10:10 for "community" 2011-06-21 10:10 what are your chances receiving one of them? 2011-06-21 10:11 think they got some more for contractors 2011-06-21 10:11 well, konttori partonising me 2011-06-21 10:11 he sugested I should apply and he'll talk to the guys managing the program 2011-06-21 10:11 he seems aware I actually can help occasionally 2011-06-21 10:12 I asked him to fix the SSC problem on N900 (*#67#) 2011-06-21 10:12 and I published starhash-enabler to TADAAAA insert that one line into that config file 2011-06-21 10:13 i totally didn't understand your last two phrases, but sounds cool :) 2011-06-21 10:13 mompls 2011-06-21 10:14 DocScrutinizer: if you wanted to buy a smartphone for yourself now, what would it be? 2011-06-21 10:14 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=789668#post789668 2011-06-21 10:14 N900 2011-06-21 10:15 considering to get a spare spare as long as there are some available 2011-06-21 10:16 especially since Nokia can't even repair them now just 18 months after rollout - they swap for an N8 when you send in a N900 for warranty repair 2011-06-21 10:16 are they not produced anymore? 2011-06-21 10:16 obviously not 2011-06-21 10:16 heh, why would they do that to N900? 2011-06-21 10:17 i heard from many geeks they love it 2011-06-21 10:17 and seems they even missed to keep a reasonable stock for replacements 2011-06-21 10:18 I guess, due to several problems with quality etc, Nokia decided to call it broken by design and to discontinue and rollback 2011-06-21 10:19 they better came up with a N900-i and a improved more open maemo 2011-06-21 10:19 but meh, you know, Elopocalypse 2011-06-21 10:20 so they gave a toy to a child and then took it away 2011-06-21 10:20 yeah 2011-06-21 10:20 despite of the fact that the child doesn't really care if the toy is broken or not :) 2011-06-21 10:21 they gave a violin to a 4 year old, and when he grew out of it at age of 9 they refused to give a proper violin for grownups 2011-06-21 10:21 i think my Nokia N73 is slowly dying and it's time i start thinking about replacement... 2011-06-21 10:21 rather refuse to even service the baby violin anymore 2011-06-21 10:22 yeah, that's a kind of strange logic.. 2011-06-21 10:22 ""look, there's that nice synthesizer kbd from Redmond, go use that for playing music"" 2011-06-21 10:23 and Nokia surely lost some of their fanboys after coupling with MS 2011-06-21 10:23 quite some, yes 2011-06-21 10:23 where did they go? 2011-06-21 10:24 not to Samsung, obvisouly 2011-06-21 10:24 lost even more though of the maemo community when they deliberately put them down the 3rd time 2011-06-21 10:24 most went to andridiot 2011-06-21 10:25 some still cling to "true meego" 2011-06-21 10:25 aka #meego-arm 2011-06-21 10:25 interesting.. like, running meego on HTC devices? 2011-06-21 10:25 it's all a giant fsckng deja-vu regarding what OM did 2011-06-21 10:26 nah, I guess they'll try to bring true meego handset UX to N9 now 2011-06-21 10:27 they are about (or did already) to rollout meego for N900 2011-06-21 10:27 called meego 1.2 CE 2011-06-21 10:27 for Community Edition 2011-06-21 10:27 'CE' ffs 2011-06-21 10:27 not the best choice of abbreviation :) 2011-06-21 10:27 wellknown Carsten Munk of Mer a leading head of that enterprise 2011-06-21 10:28 it's been DE for developer edition formerly ;-P 2011-06-21 10:29 is pondering to watch some threads on talk.maemo.org explode 2011-06-21 10:29 I bet you can't read as fast as they scroll 2011-06-21 10:30 the announcement been like 6h ago 2011-06-21 10:30 it's interesting how fast it happens. I had no clue about Nokia development of N9/N950 just yesterday 2011-06-21 10:30 it's been in the rumours for like 9 months now 2011-06-21 10:30 makes me wonder what would happens "tomorrow" 2011-06-21 10:30 nuttin 2011-06-21 10:31 yeah, probably, i'm just not inside this subject 2011-06-21 10:31 except maybe Elop gets killed by dropping a stinking oistrich egg at him ;-P 2011-06-21 10:32 wonders where to get the rotten ostrich egg from 2011-06-21 10:32 you should get yourself an alibi in case it happens for real tomorrow :) 2011-06-21 10:32 :-D 2011-06-21 10:32 remember - public logging!@ 2011-06-21 10:33 I'll log tomorrow as well, ( <- checks alibi) 2011-06-21 10:34 they'd say you had used Eliza bot :) 2011-06-21 10:34 I *am* Eliza bot ;-) 2011-06-21 10:35 --) 2011-06-21 10:43 I'm happy to see that SonyEricsson and Samsung are opening devices slowly 2011-06-21 10:43 at least no crypted loaders 2011-06-21 10:45 ah, I understand 2011-06-21 10:45 DocScrutinizer: they will say now that Meego devices are unpopular and close this line 2011-06-21 10:45 thanks to crackers, companies now decide that it is better to keep it open from the beginning than to embarass themselves when it is cracked anyway 2011-06-21 10:46 and price is about $1k 2011-06-21 10:46 nice.. 2011-06-21 10:47 kyak: http://habrahabr.ru/company/Nokia/blog/122265/ 2011-06-21 10:47 russian release :) 2011-06-21 10:49 Jay7: indeed the idea to roll out a meego device without hw kbd looks like another perfect step in a plan to kill off the whole "linux-on-a-phone" thing 2011-06-21 10:50 as somebody just mentioned at #maemo, you won't please hardcore maemo/meego-hackers with the N9, and it's highly unlikely users that never were interested in linux at all now will switch to that new "ecosystem" that has no apps, no competitor devices, nuttin 2011-06-21 10:53 Jay7: yeah, i've read it. Can't help admiring the stupidity of Nokia representative 2011-06-21 10:55 Openmoko should just have looked like the iPhone 2011-06-21 10:55 so this would excuse price 2011-06-21 10:55 and make a very attractive device 2011-06-21 10:55 hehe 2011-06-21 10:55 time for NanoNote phone editions 2011-06-21 10:55 time to get rid of cruft like X11, pulseaudio etc. 2011-06-21 10:55 qt4 :) 2011-06-21 10:55 and make an outstanding GUI 2011-06-21 10:55 asking the question like "What do you think would be the price for N9?" to the audience of students and then not being able to defend his grounds 2011-06-21 10:56 qt4 is still nowhere near the IOS GUI 2011-06-21 10:56 and it's very slow and bloated 2011-06-21 10:56 efl then :) 2011-06-21 10:56