2011-05-25 02:57 hello everyone :P 2011-05-25 02:57 hola 2011-05-25 02:57 Why do I get as: can't load library 'libopcodes-2.19.1.so' when trying to compile a C program with GCC? 2011-05-25 03:09 vladkorotnev, you better update your gcc, the old gcc have small issue. 2011-05-25 03:10 xiangfu: how? I used the instructions from the wiki 2011-05-25 03:10 the libopcodes not install correct. 2011-05-25 03:10 http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/packages/NanoNote/Ben/2011-05-22/gcc-mips_4.3.3-3_xburst.ipk 2011-05-25 03:10 vladkorotnev, which wiki page? 2011-05-25 03:11 vladkorotnev, then we maybe need update it :) 2011-05-25 03:11 xiangfu: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Developing_on_the_NanoNote_in_C 2011-05-25 03:11 vladkorotnev, just download, and run 'opkg install gc-mips_4.3.3-3_xburst.ipk' 2011-05-25 03:12 in the wiki page, it's gcc-mips_4.3.3-2. try 4.3.3-3 and give some feedback, thanks. 2011-05-25 03:12 thanks 2011-05-25 03:12 I used 4.3.3-3 :/ 2011-05-25 03:12 ] 2011-05-25 03:13 I'll try anyway 2011-05-25 03:14 but how do I get out of centerIM? 2011-05-25 03:14 /quit maybe 2011-05-25 03:15 centerIM, just choose the 'done' twice will exit it 2011-05-25 03:16 [mcabber] is /quit 2011-05-25 03:16 I don't see done' :P 2011-05-25 03:18 vladkorotnev, which screen you are in. I am in the 'IM account manager' there is 'change' and 'done' 2011-05-25 03:18 killall centerim over ssh helped : 2011-05-25 03:25 Still doesn't work :( 2011-05-25 03:25 root@BenNanoNote:/card/tmp# gcc /tmp/hello.c -o hi 2011-05-25 03:25 as: can't load library 'libopcodes-2.19.1.so' 2011-05-25 03:25 :( 2011-05-25 03:32 xiangfu: still not working :( 2011-05-25 03:54 whitequark: did you ever got mmc working on your board? 2011-05-25 04:06 vladkorotnev, I am installing the gcc-mips and testing. 2011-05-25 04:06 xiangfu: i tried installing it using opkg, but ran out of memory and the NN crashed 2011-05-25 04:06 still instaling here. 2011-05-25 04:08 vladkorotnev, works just fine. which version you using, (cat /etc/VERSION) 2011-05-25 04:08 2011-02-23 2011-05-25 04:10 xiangfu: 2011-02-23 2011-05-25 04:11 The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log//home/xiangfu/compile-log//openwrt-xburst.full_system-05242011-0710/\nclose 2011-05-25 04:16 vladkorotnev: you needs 'binutils' packages. 2011-05-25 04:17 vladkorotnev, install that one. and try again. 2011-05-25 04:17 xiangfu: already installed :P 2011-05-25 04:17 the libcodes. is belong ot 'binutils' package. 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Benson Leung: gpio-charger: Add gpio_charger_resume http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/8e7191d 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: udc http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/6960c45 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Add IRQ workaround for JZ4750 errata. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/6edec95 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Add RTC platform device support for JZ4750. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/df1752a 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: MIPS: JZ47xx: Set up jz_gpio_chips in jz47xx_gpio_init. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/277c69c 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: Use UART1 as the low level debug port on the JZ4760 http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/23b2211 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: MIPS: JZ47xx: Generalize clock framework. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/fc705e7 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Update JZ4740 UDC driver to use new JZ47xx clock system. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/d8c91da 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: MIPS: JZ4750: Add support for UDC controller. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/23d0949 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Add JZ4750 NAND driver. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/8786de5 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Added MTD configuration for XZ0032 board. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/0c2fd9f 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Update JZ4740 framebuffer driver to support new header layout. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/982290d 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Peter Zotov: Add LCD support to JZ4750. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/8e02a11 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: Merge remote branch 'remotes/whitequark/xz0032-wip' into jz47xx http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/4127a60 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: stash http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/9a83f48 2011-05-25 04:17 [commit] Ignacio Garcia Perez: FIXED hideous bug in the special function pin configuration that pretty much broke it completely. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/57230db 2011-05-25 04:17 xiangfu: libcodes not found 2011-05-25 04:20 vladkorotnev, you can check if there is any libopcodes under /usr/lib/? 2011-05-25 04:20 vladkorotnev, are you intall this one ? : http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/packages/NanoNote/Ben/latest/binutils_2.19.1-3_xburst.ipk 2011-05-25 04:20 2.19.1 2011-05-25 04:21 xiangfu: libopcodes not present in /usr/lib. installed binutils is 2.19.1-3 2011-05-25 04:22 vladkorotnev,  this is strange. please try to download the link I give you. try again. 2011-05-25 04:22 vladkorotnev, this problem is fixed by Jow. at 2011-03-07 23:56:01 2011-05-25 04:23 xiangfu: now reinstalling binutils, then reinstalling gcc-mips. 2011-05-25 04:23 vladkorotnev, so it's included by http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/packages/NanoNote/Ben/2011-05-22/ packages. 2011-05-25 04:23 vladkorotnev, just bintuils is enough I think 2011-05-25 04:23 vladkorotnev, back online later. see you. 2011-05-25 05:25 vladkorotnev: is the last binutiles fix your problem? 2011-05-25 05:25 xiangfu: it didn't 2011-05-25 05:26 xiangfu: I untar'd the ipk of binutils and it didn't have any libs in there at all :P 2011-05-25 05:33 oh. vladkorotnev is offline. I make a mistake, it's objdump package. :( http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/packages/NanoNote/Ben/2011-05-22/objdump_2.19.1-3_xburst.ipk 2011-05-25 05:52 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system: include new packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/05d74e1 2011-05-25 05:53 The build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/ 2011-05-25 06:35 larsc: you may want to know that my jz47xx branch is now rebased on .39 and contains working i2c code (I've added a patch from one of our russian developers) 2011-05-25 06:47 larsc: http://git.whitequark.org/xz0032-linux.git/log/?h=xz0032-2.6.39-dev 2011-05-25 10:11 Hum, I'm having some troubles installing the gcc packages, it tells me it misses the binutils packages which can't be installed because it would overwrites some files from busybox which can't be updated because it would overwrite some files from hwclock... what ? 2011-05-25 10:20 lunavorax_frizzl: --force may help? before the 2011-05-22, there is some conflicts between busybox. 2011-05-25 10:21 Oh a new image came out recently ? 2011-05-25 10:21 opkg -force-overwrite install ... 2011-05-25 10:22 Ok jow_laptop just a moment 2011-05-25 10:25 lunavorax_frizzl: test, not stable yet, dvdk have give some feedsback. we needs fix those before release :) 2011-05-25 10:27 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [new package] dega: a emulator for sega master system and game gear which uses SDL http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/938af2c 2011-05-25 10:27 Ok xiangfu :) I was finding this weird since I flashed my nn on the 23rd 2011-05-25 10:28 jow_laptop, ok it worked apparently, thank you very much ! 2011-05-25 10:28 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system: include new packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/3f8b21c 2011-05-25 10:42 xiangfu: seems that kinyin is not in the image :) 2011-05-25 10:44 kyak: yes. I think for now only me use it :) 2011-05-25 10:44 not at all 2011-05-25 10:44 i use it for fun 2011-05-25 10:45 anyway, you mentioned it in release note, so i wanted to have a look :) 2011-05-25 10:58 08:11:47 <@qi-bot> The build was successfull, see images here: 2011-05-25 10:58 http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log//home/xiangfu/compile-log//openwrt-xburst.full_system-05242011-0710/\nclose 2011-05-25 10:58 xiangfu: did it actually close the connection? -- 2011-05-25 11:00 ah i see you've fixed that already by adding -e :) 2011-05-25 11:19 xiangfu: btw, fix-plplot-not-compile-in-buildhost.patch is not needed anymore in buildhost after this change: https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/26277 2011-05-25 11:19 however, there is another problem (not related to perl) with plplot.. 2011-05-25 11:37 kyak: oh. I will remove that patch from buildhost. 2011-05-25 12:00 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: climm: disable xmpp, make it compile http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c0d17b1 2011-05-25 12:00 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: climm: disable xmpp, make it compile http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/4379b2c 2011-05-25 14:53 what do i need jikes? 2011-05-25 15:46 hi again all 2011-05-25 15:52 moin 2011-05-25 15:59 hello everyone :P 2011-05-25 16:00 could anyone please drop me their /usr/lib from ben nano note so I could set up gcc? It complains about libopcodes not present 2011-05-25 16:01 vladkorotnev: it's a known bug that had been solved 2011-05-25 16:02 update to the latest image 2011-05-25 16:02 kyak: Yes, the wiki page has been updated today. I followed the guide on the wiki and it still doesn't work :( 2011-05-25 16:02 what page? 2011-05-25 16:02 OS image? 2011-05-25 16:02 yo umean updating instructions? 2011-05-25 16:02 no 2011-05-25 16:02 I mean GCC instructions 2011-05-25 16:02 brb 2011-05-25 16:05 gcc instructions in wiki - this one http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Gccmips ? Looks pretty outdated and not relevant now that gcc-mips is packaged 2011-05-25 16:06 i wonder what is your cat /etc/VERSION... it can't be very old 2011-05-25 16:13 yeah, working fine in 2011-05-22 2011-05-25 16:14 just need to wget and opkg install gcc-mips manually (otherwise opkg hits the oom) 2011-05-25 16:14 smaller dependecies like mpfr are pulled automatically 2011-05-25 16:15 binutils and objdump (the one providing /usr/lib/libopcodes-2.19.1.so) are already part of the image 2011-05-25 16:20 kyak: i'm back there 2011-05-25 16:20 vladkorotnev: advice: update this thing 2011-05-25 16:20 kyak: I used http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Developing_on_the_NanoNote_in_C guide 2011-05-25 16:21 not relevant anymore, too 2011-05-25 16:21 kyak: updated today :P 2011-05-25 16:21 i might correct these instructions then.. 2011-05-25 16:21 vladkorotnev: cat /etc/VERSION 2011-05-25 16:21 2011-02-23 2011-05-25 16:21 oh shi*... 2011-05-25 16:22 thanks 2011-05-25 16:22 heh 2011-05-25 16:22 gonna get to my debian pc and update 2011-05-25 16:22 which method would you recommend? 2011-05-25 16:23 Better the one that won't erase my 2gb data partition:P 2011-05-25 16:23 ./reflash_ben.sh is the first method to try 2011-05-25 16:24 you don't have 2gb data partition, it's 1.5 Gb :) 2011-05-25 16:24 kyak: won't it erase the data partition? 2011-05-25 16:24 and it won't erase it 2011-05-25 16:24 kyak: yes :P 2011-05-25 16:24 thanks 2011-05-25 16:24 be sure to use ./reflash_ben.sh with "-d" key 2011-05-25 16:24 -d is for what? 2011-05-25 16:24 see the update e-mail from xiangfu 2011-05-25 16:25 vladkorotnev: http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2011-May/008060.html 2011-05-25 16:25 you may as well update to 2011-05-24 :) 2011-05-25 16:26 be the first one to try 2011-05-25 16:26 oh, it's yesterdays image :) fresh :) 2011-05-25 16:26 yeah 2011-05-25 16:26 where do I get the todays image? I wanna try :D 2011-05-25 16:26 meanwhile, i updated the wiki page.. no need to jump around string/binutils/objdump now 2011-05-25 16:27 vladkorotnev: are you reading the e-mail? 2011-05-25 16:27 oh, I need to use ./reflash_ben.sh -d 2011-05-24 right? 2011-05-25 16:27 ah, not quite 2011-05-25 16:27 the script will try to pull it from another place 2011-05-25 16:28 then how do I install todays image? 2011-05-25 16:28 ok, let's do it step by step 2011-05-25 16:28 kyak: ok 2011-05-25 16:28 go to http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-05242011-0710/ 2011-05-25 16:28 ok 2011-05-25 16:29 get openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-uImage.bin, openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-u-boot.bin, openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-root.ubi.bz2 2011-05-25 16:29 you need three files 2011-05-25 16:29 i'll be doing it in parallel to be sure :) 2011-05-25 16:30 whetting the ubi.bz2 now 2011-05-25 16:30 eta 4m 2011-05-25 16:30 40 s :) 2011-05-25 16:31 372K/s :( IDK why, I usually have around 5MB/s 2011-05-25 16:31 put these three files in one directory, e.g. ~/ben/2011-05-24 2011-05-25 16:31 I put them into /nanonote, along with the reflash_ben.sh 2011-05-25 16:31 btw, you do have usbboot installed? 2011-05-25 16:32 yes of course 2011-05-25 16:33 hi 2011-05-25 16:33 kyak: btw, I am walking away to my pc from my mac to do the commands, that's why my replies may take a bit long 2011-05-25 16:33 kristianpaul: hi 2011-05-25 16:33 any one with experience setting up the spi or bitbang driver for ENC28J60 in linux? 2011-05-25 16:34 kyak: images finished dl'ing :P 2011-05-25 16:35 kyak: what next? 2011-05-25 16:35 vladkorotnev: nice, now see how i modified the reflash_ben.sh: 2011-05-25 16:36 kyak: where? 2011-05-25 16:36 oh, before, bzip2 -d openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-root.ubi.bz2 2011-05-25 16:36 one sec... 2011-05-25 16:36 "you may need patch the upstream packages for compile fine. please read the README-**. for example: " what? 2011-05-25 16:37 this information still valid? 2011-05-25 16:38 vladkorotnev: http://dpaste.com/546447/ 2011-05-25 16:38 note that PROTOCOL, VERSION and WORKING_DIR are changed 2011-05-25 16:39 after you unbzip2'ed the openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-root.ubi.bz2, you can just run ./reflash_ben.sh :) 2011-05-25 16:39 i'm seeing the progress now 2011-05-25 16:39 WORKING_DIR needs to point to where? 2011-05-25 16:39 to directory where you put these three files 2011-05-25 16:39 it's ~/ben/2011-05-24 in my case 2011-05-25 16:39 nah, better compile kernel alone.. :-) 2011-05-25 16:40 kyak: done 2011-05-25 16:40 kyak: now plug in and run? 2011-05-25 16:41 power Ben on while holding "U" key 2011-05-25 16:41 kyak: yeah I know 2011-05-25 16:41 ok, then just run 2011-05-25 16:44 kyak: ok, it's processing 2011-05-25 16:44 kyak: flashing rootfs 2011-05-25 16:44 nice :) 2011-05-25 16:45 kyak: If i'll want to flash Jlime, will modding the .sh work? 2011-05-25 16:45 vladkorotnev: could you paste the bootloader flashing output? i'm wondering if it was Done:  1/2 or Done:  2/2? 2011-05-25 16:45 kyak 2011-05-25 16:46 boot loader was Done: 1/2 2011-05-25 16:46 heh, just like me.. that's not good 2011-05-25 16:46 kyak: what? 2011-05-25 16:47 you will have problems when trying to boot from other partitions, like uSD card 2011-05-25 16:48 kyak: I don't care, I don't use them 2011-05-25 16:48 it's usbboot bug 2011-05-25 16:49 btw, why doesn't mmcblk0 appear in /dev if TF card is inserted when the NN is off? 2011-05-25 16:49 vladkorotnev: here's that bug http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/2011-March/007539.html 2011-05-25 16:49 so i just reflash the bootloader afterwards using older usbboot 2011-05-25 16:50 kyak: if it only affects booting from TF cards, then I don't need it ;) 2011-05-25 16:50 vladkorotnev: though i heard about this problem with mmcblk0, i never faced it 2011-05-25 16:50 i have 256 Mb card working as swap and a small partition 2011-05-25 16:51 and no problems when it was already inserted before Ben boots 2011-05-25 16:51 guess it could be card-specific problem 2011-05-25 16:51 kyak: I just wrote a shell script "mountall" that asks for reinserting SD and then mounts it and the data 1.5gb partition 2011-05-25 16:51 kyak: I use a 256mb nokia card 2011-05-25 16:51 NO NO PC DONT SLEEP!!! FFFFFUUUUU 2011-05-25 16:51 vladkorotnev: heh, exactly like me :) 2011-05-25 16:52 it's weird, i dont have this problem.. let's see your dmesg right after boot 2011-05-25 16:53 kyak: dmesg on the NN or wit? 2011-05-25 16:53 *wut? 2011-05-25 16:53 yeah, on Ben 2011-05-25 16:56 Done:  556/751 2011-05-25 16:57 kyak: 384/751 2011-05-25 16:57 kyak: the pc is old :( 2011-05-25 16:58 the flashing progress is limited by something else, not pc.. Or is yours that old? :) 2011-05-25 17:01 kyak: not that much. ICH7 chipset, GMA950 video, Centrino Duo 1.5GHz CPU, 1.5GB RAM, Debian Linux. No LCD because it was cracked and I removed it, turning it into a ZX-Spectrum-alike desktop PC (I call it Halfbook -- because it's a half of a notebook :P) 2011-05-25 17:01 you can call it a keyboard as well ;) 2011-05-25 17:02 kyak: when it was running Mac OS X 10.6.7 I posted a photo of it on twitter with title "The prototype of the successor of the Mac mini& The Mac Keyboard!" :D 2011-05-25 17:07 nice :) 2011-05-25 17:07 vladkorotnev: give it a minute or so at first boot, it will finish some first-boot tasks 2011-05-25 17:07 kyak: here it is, on my desk (photo's a little blurry) http://www.cl.ly/2j3n2B1G2M01340k0D3W :D 2011-05-25 17:08 kyak: it didn't finish flashing yet 2011-05-25 17:09 looking good :) and your record book, too :) 2011-05-25 17:09 kyak: lol 2011-05-25 17:09 kyak: btw it's the chemistry paper in the middle of the desk, lol 2011-05-25 17:10 kyak: it says reboot device&done, and the NN screen is black 2011-05-25 17:10 still black? 2011-05-25 17:10 kyak: yes 2011-05-25 17:11 shouldn't be.. 2011-05-25 17:11 kyak: reboot manually? 2011-05-25 17:11 yeah 2011-05-25 17:11 kyak: pulling out the battery or how? 2011-05-25 17:11 press the small reset switch at the back 2011-05-25 17:12 kyak: i did the battery trick, now it's booted to the gmenu2x 2011-05-25 17:12 I wonder if it's possible to have dmenu 2011-05-25 17:12 I like it's PSP style :P 2011-05-25 17:13 so.. you can ssh into it now and check if it's the latest vesion and install gcc-mips :) 2011-05-25 17:13 vladkorotnev: do you know another similar tools? gmenu2x is, ahem, a bit specific 2011-05-25 17:14 whitequark: only menu. it's photo was somewhere on the wiki 2011-05-25 17:14 *dmenu 2011-05-25 17:15 dmenu requires X, and my device does not have a touchscreen nor a keyboard 2011-05-25 17:16 whitequark: what's the device you're using? 2011-05-25 17:17 vladkorotnev: you need to edit /etc/opkg.conf to point to the http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.full_system-05242011-0710/packages/ instead of http://downloads...latest 2011-05-25 17:17 kyak: why? 2011-05-25 17:17 because it's older versions of packages in the latest now 2011-05-25 17:18 it's not been moved yet 2011-05-25 17:20 kyak: done, setting up internet and testing in a moment 2011-05-25 17:25 !top 20 2011-05-25 17:26 lol 2011-05-25 17:32 vladkorotnev: Americhip Video-in-Print device, it's jz4725B/32M/1G with 480x272 screen 2011-05-25 17:32 and it is almost free 2011-05-25 17:33 whitequark: lol, I know these. From Vogue or Playboy magazine? :P 2011-05-25 17:33 sure 2011-05-25 17:34 whitequark: you can solder buttons to the pcb and have the same controls as dingo has AFAIR 2011-05-25 17:34 whitequark: usb host? 2011-05-25 17:34 kristianpaul: sadly, no 2011-05-25 17:34 just client? 2011-05-25 17:34 yeah, 2.0 2011-05-25 17:34 for usbbot 2011-05-25 17:34 k 2011-05-25 17:35 serial? 2011-05-25 17:35 spi/mmc? 2011-05-25 17:35 well, I use jzboot which was recently merged with xburst-tools 2011-05-25 17:35 oh 2011-05-25 17:35 kristianpaul: one UART and there is 1-bit SD/MMC free 2011-05-25 17:35 does anybody know where to get menu for the Ben NN? 2011-05-25 17:35 kristianpaul: other, 4-bit one is multiplexed (i.e. unaccessible) with NAND 2011-05-25 17:36 :/ 2011-05-25 17:36 vladkorotnev: gmenu2x? 2011-05-25 17:36 kristianpaul: or maybe there is some magic which allows to use them simultaneously, but I don't know and it is not in kernel sources 2011-05-25 17:36 kristianpaul: dmenu. Stupid MacOS autocorrect ! 2011-05-25 17:37 dmenu is still included? you mean the one from digux rigth? 2011-05-25 17:37 I think yes 2011-05-25 17:38 that was included time ago, dunno if currently still on repo.. 2011-05-25 17:41 kristianpaul: it isn't :( 2011-05-25 17:41 vladkorotnev: if dmenu is running in X, no chance it will work in openwrt (at least right now) 2011-05-25 17:41 dont you like gmenu2x? 2011-05-25 17:42 kristianpaul: not that much. I think i'll turn itoff 2011-05-25 17:42 why? 2011-05-25 17:43 what you dont like from gmenu2x? 2011-05-25 17:43 and like from dmenu instead? 2011-05-25 17:43 kristianpaul: lack of good design. dmenu looks like PSP menu and has animations AFAIR 2011-05-25 17:44 btw, is NN with todays image supposed to turn off the LCD after a certain period of inactivity? 2011-05-25 17:47 root@BenNanoNote:/data/tmp# gcc test.c -o test 2011-05-25 17:47 root@BenNanoNote:/data/tmp# ./test 2011-05-25 17:47 Oh hai! 2011-05-25 17:47 YAY! :D 2011-05-25 17:47 :-) 2011-05-25 17:48 now, whats next? ;-) 2011-05-25 17:48 btw, I got HElliZER demo running on my NN 2011-05-25 17:49 Now, I'll start porting FIDOIP over to the Ben, I got an idea of using the Ben as a FIDO-Pager from FIDONet area RU.FIDONET.TODAY. I think that would be great :P 2011-05-25 17:50 does anyone remember FIDONet these days? :) 2011-05-25 17:50 i discover irc just 2 years ago ;) 2011-05-25 17:51 i do remenber pagers, yes 2011-05-25 17:51 oh fido !Z!! 2011-05-25 17:51 I discovered FIDONet this winter, though the peak of its popularity in Russia was in 1995-1997 2011-05-25 17:51 yeah i read about that 2011-05-25 17:51 about passing/realying data trought humans? 2011-05-25 17:51 or sort of that? 2011-05-25 17:52 what??? I can't understand that: "about passing/realying data trought humans?" :/ 2011-05-25 17:52 sorry, i first calm down 2011-05-25 17:52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet 2011-05-25 17:52 better :-) 2011-05-25 17:53 Btw, if anyone from here is still on FidoNet -- Netmail me :D 2:5020/12000.64 :) 2011-05-25 17:55 Is the NN serial connection available from software? 2011-05-25 17:56 yes 2011-05-25 17:56 but not enterelly by hardware 2011-05-25 17:56 by default 2011-05-25 17:57 FFFUUUUUUUUUU sat on my MacBook Pro. Getting kicked in the a$$ with a 17-inch piece of aluminum hurts :( 2011-05-25 17:58 kristianpaul: it needs a TTL-RS232 adapter right? 2011-05-25 17:58 before that some wires need to be routed, but yes 2011-05-25 17:58 vladkorotnev: when you have a Makefile for your port, feel free to post it in mailing list to include in next release :) 2011-05-25 17:59 then it'd be a good idea to also make a dock for modem connection for OldSchool FIDO-users :D 2011-05-25 17:59 kyak: it uses shell scripts instead of makefiles 2011-05-25 17:59 in openwert you should disable a getty in /etc/inita 2011-05-25 17:59 in openwrt also, you should disable something /etc/inittab so you can use /dev/ttyS0 2011-05-25 17:59 serial thing is for fido right? 2011-05-25 18:00 vladkorotnev: that wouldn't be reproducable then for users of openwrt toolchain/SDK 2011-05-25 18:00 kristianpaul: for modem 2011-05-25 18:00 kyak: it's compiled on the NN itself 2011-05-25 18:00 and the tranceiver part? 2011-05-25 18:00 kyak: and it's not my idea to use shell scripts ;) 2011-05-25 18:01 vladkorotnev: compiling on Ben is fine, but it wouldn't be a package for others to use :) 2011-05-25 18:01 kristianpaul: what transceiver? I am talking about the usual old school phone modems 2011-05-25 18:01 oh sorry.. 2011-05-25 18:02 kristianpaul: btw, where can I get schematics for all those neat adapters like VGA, TTL-RS232, etc? 2011-05-25 18:03 root@BenNanoNote:/data/fidoip# ./fido_linux.sh root 2011-05-25 18:03 Home directory of user root doesn't exist. If your login is root then your home directory should be in /home/root.  OH WTF? Why does it need that in this particular location... 2011-05-25 18:04 whoami: not found -- why? 2011-05-25 18:05 you are not :-) 2011-05-25 18:05 wellcome to openwrt ;-) 2011-05-25 18:05 coreutils to the rescue :) 2011-05-25 18:06 are you going to compile all that? 2011-05-25 18:06 no, using opkg :) 2011-05-25 18:06 fidoip -- yes :) 2011-05-25 18:06 ah, dint knew it gnu coreutils was in openwrt repos.. 2011-05-25 18:06 make: not found -- Why I always forget something& *sigh* 2011-05-25 18:07 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-blinkenlights/source/tree/master/ubb-vga (VGA) 2011-05-25 18:07 thanks 2011-05-25 18:07 about TTL-RS232 dont know, well i just bought the board onces.. 2011-05-25 18:07 once* 2011-05-25 18:07 and latelly the popular ftdi adapter 2011-05-25 18:09 btw ben serial port is not TTL as works with 3.3V 2011-05-25 18:09 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Serial_console 2011-05-25 18:10 kristianpaul: you thought there was no coreutils in openwrt? That's more than underestimation :) 2011-05-25 18:10 ok thanks 2011-05-25 18:10 kyak: well, i tought in keep things simple with openwrt.. 2011-05-25 18:10 but good too gnu "familly" is there :-) 2011-05-25 18:10 s/too/too see 2011-05-25 18:11 kristianpaul: I was also amazed by this, but in iPhoneOS instead of OpenWRT :) 2011-05-25 18:11 root@BenNanoNote:/data/tmp# opkg install * 2011-05-25 18:11 Installing make (3.81-1) to root... 2011-05-25 18:11 Configuring make. 2011-05-25 18:11 Collected errors: 2011-05-25 18:11 * gz_close: Unzip process killed by signal 9. 2011-05-25 18:11 * pkg_get_installed_files: Error extracting file list from make_3.81-1_xburst.ipk. 2011-05-25 18:11 * opkg_install_pkg: check_data_file_clashes_change() failed for for files belonging to make. 2011-05-25 18:11 Oh wtf... 2011-05-25 18:12 our of memory perhaps? 2011-05-25 18:12 out* 2011-05-25 18:12 idk 2011-05-25 18:14 isn't there ncurses-devel in openwrt? 2011-05-25 18:14 yeah, i wanted to said store and forward 2011-05-25 18:15 Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on 2011-05-25 18:15 ubi0:rootfs             471192    387876     83316  82% /    Oh f--k& 2011-05-25 18:18 dvdk: hi! i don't want to bother you, but plplot fails to build in trunk -\ So, when you feel like it, could you have a look? I'm totally lost in plplot's Makefile :) 2011-05-25 18:23 I ran out of memory on root& great.. 2011-05-25 18:23 any files I can delete safely from the / ? 2011-05-25 18:25 how did you do that? :) 2011-05-25 18:26 Idk 2011-05-25 18:26 installed what? 2011-05-25 18:26 I store _my_files on /data and /card 2011-05-25 18:26 rm the downloaded gcc-mips package 2011-05-25 18:26 Installed gcc 2011-05-25 18:26 where is it located 2011-05-25 18:26 ? 2011-05-25 18:26 i mean the ipk - where you downloaded it 2011-05-25 18:26 I dl'd it to /card 2011-05-25 18:27 nah, it's 82% in your rootfs 2011-05-25 18:27 why are you saying you ran out of space? 2011-05-25 18:27 because opkg doesn't work 2011-05-25 18:28 root@BenNanoNote:/# find *.ipk 2011-05-25 18:28 find: *.ipk: No such file or directory 2011-05-25 18:28 huh? 2011-05-25 18:28 I can't find any ipk's on / 2011-05-25 18:28 that's not correct usage of find, whatever you are trying to achieve.. 2011-05-25 18:29 you dl'ed it to card, so don't bother 2011-05-25 18:30 http://dpaste.com/546483/ 2011-05-25 18:30 dunno what's your problem 2011-05-25 18:30 show me your df output pls 2011-05-25 18:31 ubi0:rootfs             471192    401004     70188  85% / 2011-05-25 18:31 hmm 2011-05-25 18:31 what's your exact command? 2011-05-25 18:31 i see "opkg install *" 2011-05-25 18:32 http://pastie.org/1972583 2011-05-25 18:32 it's clearly oom 2011-05-25 18:33 if the package is too big, first wget it, then install 2011-05-25 18:33 also quit gmenu2x 2011-05-25 18:33 this thing eats 6-7 Mb 2011-05-25 18:33 or setup swap 2011-05-25 18:33 killall gmenu2x ok? 2011-05-25 18:33 or how..? 2011-05-25 18:34 no, it wouldn't work.. 2011-05-25 18:34 run ash from gmenu2x 2011-05-25 18:34 there is a shortcut 2011-05-25 18:36 done 2011-05-25 18:36 i prefer doing it via ssh.. still gmenu2x is off 2011-05-25 18:36 thanks, worked! 2011-05-25 18:37 i'm using ssh too 2011-05-25 18:41 how to set up swap? 2011-05-25 18:42 mkswap /dev/mmcblk*; swapon /dev/mmcblk* 2011-05-25 18:43 whatever partitions you have on mmcblk 2011-05-25 18:43 you may not have any partitions at all, then just mmcblk0 2011-05-25 18:43 what if I want to use the same device for swap and storage? 2011-05-25 18:43 i have mmcblk0p1 for jlime and mmcblk0p0 for some swap 2011-05-25 18:44 *mmcblk0p2 for swap :) 2011-05-25 18:44 lol 2011-05-25 18:44 so you can 2011-05-25 18:44 how? 2011-05-25 18:45 fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 :) 2011-05-25 18:45 I want to use /data :P the ubi device 2011-05-25 18:45 i wouldn't do that 2011-05-25 18:45 seems that NAND is slower than uSD 2011-05-25 18:45 and.. you will have to peek into ubi world 2011-05-25 18:45 then I'll move my music to /data first... 2011-05-25 18:57 will I need to do this mkswap/swapon thing every boot? 2011-05-25 18:57 swapon - yeah 2011-05-25 18:58 kyak: any way to make it automated? 2011-05-25 18:58 should do it automatically after you have correct line in /etc/fstab 2011-05-25 18:58 i guess there is swapon -a somewhere in boot scripts.. 2011-05-25 18:59 handled by /etc/init.d/fstab, yeah 2011-05-25 19:00 how should I edit it? 2011-05-25 19:00 vim? 2011-05-25 19:01 hah :) 2011-05-25 19:01 ah, you need to use uci for that.. /etc/fstab would be overwritten 2011-05-25 19:01 I mean which lines to add :P 2011-05-25 19:01 see /etc/config/fstab, it's self-exlanatory 2011-05-25 19:01 check openwrt wiki for some config options 2011-05-25 19:02 config swap 2011-05-25 19:02 option device/dev/sda2 2011-05-25 19:02 option enabled0 2011-05-25 19:02 got it 2011-05-25 19:02 ye 2011-05-25 19:02 may I use wildcard in there? 2011-05-25 19:03 dunno, try if it would work like swapon /dev/mmcblk* :) don't you know the exact partition? 2011-05-25 19:04 i use the whole card :) 2011-05-25 19:04 that would be mmcblk0 then 2011-05-25 19:05 I'll try 2011-05-25 19:05 cat /proc/partitions to see 2011-05-25 19:07 ok, then if card won't fail at boot, it should work 2011-05-25 19:09 finally it started compiling... 2011-05-25 19:09 now just wait for .. ages :) i'd suggest doing cross-compiling on host 2011-05-25 19:10 ok, going to sleep now.. see you 2011-05-25 19:11 bye, kyak 2011-05-25 19:44 whitequark: yes, i've already seen it 2011-05-25 20:46 huh...