2011-05-22 05:42 <vladkorotnev> hello everyone :P
2011-05-22 10:51 <vladkorotnev> hello everyone
2011-05-22 10:52 <Fusin> hello everlonely ;)
2011-05-22 10:54 <vladkorotnev> 
2011-05-22 10:54 <vladkorotnev> *:P
2011-05-22 10:54 <vladkorotnev> the keyboard language switcher is glitching :P
2011-05-22 10:54 <Jay7> another set of russian chars for bot to log :)
2011-05-22 10:54 <vladkorotnev> lol
2011-05-22 10:56 <vladkorotnev> one moment pls
2011-05-22 11:00 <Fusin> wb
2011-05-22 11:26 <wpwrak> GNUtoo, lunavorax_mini: glad you like my little hacks ;-) now you should try to, say, make you own ubb-vga board. it's not that difficult.
2011-05-22 11:29 <GNUtoo> lol ok, I would need to buy a nanonote first
2011-05-22 11:29 <kodein> hmm, I wonder where I put mine
2011-05-22 11:29 <GNUtoo> kodein, you can ping it but you can't find it?
2011-05-22 11:30 <kodein> no, I've misplaced it somewhere without having it plugged in
2011-05-22 11:30 <GNUtoo> ok
2011-05-22 11:30 <kodein> my apartment is too big :/
2011-05-22 11:31 <kodein> I heard emacs was ported now, tho, so I should make an effort to find it again
2011-05-22 11:32 <GNUtoo> emacs or emacs-x11?
2011-05-22 11:33 <kodein> I don't know, but without-x would work fine for me.
2011-05-22 11:34 <GNUtoo> ok
2011-05-22 11:34 <GNUtoo> is it in openwrt or jlime?
2011-05-22 11:38 <urandom__> openwrt comes even with emacs in later versions
2011-05-22 11:40 <Fusin> emacs: eight megabytes always continuous swapping OR ESC-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift (commands) *g*
2011-05-22 11:42 <kodein> emacs made adam commit sin.
2011-05-22 11:43 <lunavorax_mini> wpwrak, I'll do right at the end of my exams at college ;)
2011-05-22 11:43 <lunavorax_mini> haha kodein 
2011-05-22 11:43 <GNUtoo> ( emacs-x11 makes qemu segfault in openembedded, but emacs (console version) compiles fine
2011-05-22 11:43 <GNUtoo> )
2011-05-22 11:51 <lunavorax_mini> Oh ! 4,72¬ for the breakout board ! I though that would be cheaper :o*
2011-05-22 11:51 <lunavorax_mini> -*
2011-05-22 11:58 <GNUtoo> kodein, maybe because of the builtin viper mode?
2011-05-22 12:28 <wpwrak> lunavorax_mini: (right after exams) very good ! you can still be the first ;-)
2011-05-22 12:28 <wpwrak> kristianpaul, kristoffer: or how is your progress with ubb-vga ? :)
2011-05-22 13:03 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: not soldered yet, but i got all reosistors and VGA conector already...
2011-05-22 13:16 <vladkorotnev> hello everyone :P
2011-05-22 13:39 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: great. then you're merely 1-2 hours away from video :)
2011-05-22 14:39 <kyak> xiangfu: have you noticed that feeds.conf on buildhost still includes xfce feed and others?
2011-05-22 14:40 <xiangfu> changing now. thanks for review.
2011-05-22 14:41 <kyak> i wonder if full trunk build would succeed next time ;)
2011-05-22 14:47 <xiangfu> should be :D
2011-05-22 15:54 <lunavorax_mini> Heya people
2011-05-22 15:54 <lunavorax_mini> I need some technical help about the Ben Nanonote, hardware related.
2011-05-22 15:54 <lunavorax_mini> I just read the datasheet of the Ben's CPU
2011-05-22 15:54 <lunavorax_mini> Ingenic can't remember precise name
2011-05-22 15:54 <lunavorax_mini> Anyway
2011-05-22 15:55 <lunavorax_mini> Some of the pins apparently are for USB 2.0 host
2011-05-22 15:55 <kristianpaul> yup but thats not routed off the chip if i remenber correctly
2011-05-22 15:55 <lunavorax_mini> Did I understood well ? And if so, can I solder the required wires for a USB female plug or is it too risky ?
2011-05-22 15:55 <lunavorax_mini> Oh darn
2011-05-22 15:56 <kristianpaul> the _routed_ usb port is client only
2011-05-22 16:14 <vladkorotnev> hah, that'd be a great idea to solder the usb host pins to some sort of a connector and use it :P
2011-05-22 16:15 <vladkorotnev> I mean directly, without routing them on board.
2011-05-22 16:15 <vladkorotnev> Any ideas if that's possible?
2011-05-22 16:16 <Jay7> better question is why it was not routed on board
2011-05-22 16:19 <kristianpaul> Jay7, ben nanonote is not a product made from scratch
2011-05-22 16:19 <Jay7> ah
2011-05-22 16:19 <kristianpaul> so i guess just was no required when it was a color digital dictionary
2011-05-22 16:21 <vladkorotnev> btw, some copies of the June issue of Playboy have small Ingenic processor-based players that can have MiniOS and maybe Linux installed on it ;)
2011-05-22 16:21 <Jay7> I remember Vogue
2011-05-22 16:23 <vladkorotnev> yes, one issue of it had one as well
2011-05-22 16:23 <vladkorotnev> but the playboy version has only 512MB of memory, while the Vogue one had 1GB
2011-05-22 16:24 <Jay7> NN have 32Mb :)
2011-05-22 16:24 <kristianpaul> flash?
2011-05-22 16:24 <vladkorotnev> i mean flash
2011-05-22 16:24 <Jay7> RAM
2011-05-22 16:24 <vladkorotnev> yep
2011-05-22 16:24 <Jay7> ah
2011-05-22 16:24 <Jay7> well.. my Zaurus have 128Mb of NAND
2011-05-22 16:25 <kristianpaul> my microntrolers have some kbyes :-D
2011-05-22 16:25 <vladkorotnev> It seems I can't find the NN PCB design files. can anyone point me in the right direction please?
2011-05-22 16:26 <Jay7> iirc, they was not open widely but available on request
2011-05-22 16:26 <Jay7> but I may be wrong
2011-05-22 16:26 <vladkorotnev> Oh, I totally forgot about my NXP Semiconductor ARM Cortex Dev kit package that's on its way to Russia! Gonna track it. Thanks kristianpaul for reminding me of this :P
2011-05-22 16:27 <kristianpaul> i tought was a nanonote..
2011-05-22 16:27 <kristianpaul> minute vladkorotnev 
2011-05-22 16:27 <kristianpaul> is on the wiki.. just i alwayts forgot wher..
2011-05-22 16:28 <vladkorotnev> thanks, i'll search once more
2011-05-22 16:28 <kristianpaul> not on request Jay7 
2011-05-22 16:28 <kristianpaul> may be request of help to find then xD
2011-05-22 16:28 <Jay7> kristianpaul: then I'm wrong :)
2011-05-22 16:29 <vladkorotnev> ah, never mind. I think I found it
2011-05-22 16:29 <vladkorotnev> On the wiki, in "Ben NanoNote" category :P
2011-05-22 16:30 <kristianpaul> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Ben-lcd-drive-sch.pdf
2011-05-22 16:31 <kristianpaul> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/File:Lb60_schematic.pdf
2011-05-22 16:31 <kristianpaul> Adamwang user have a really interesting hisory of contribs :-)
2011-05-22 16:33 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: busybox in trunk has changed some unicode options http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ef1173e
2011-05-22 16:36 <vladkorotnev> looks like it'd be difficult to solder wires to the usb host pins, unless there are soldering pads for them on the board.
2011-05-22 16:37 <kristianpaul> :-)
2011-05-22 16:40 <kyak> xMff: how do i craft the following dependance in a Makefile: "if libncursesw build variant is selected, depend on libncursesw. Otherwise, depend on libncurses"?
2011-05-22 16:41 <xMff> +PACKAGE_libncursesw:libncursesw +!PACKAGE_libncursesw:libncurses
2011-05-22 16:42 <kyak> nice, thank you :)
2011-05-22 16:43 <lunavorax_mini> vladkorotnev, Jay7, do you have pictures of the so-called device ?
2011-05-22 16:43 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: which one?
2011-05-22 16:43 <lunavorax_mini> Vogue and Pb ones
2011-05-22 16:44 <vladkorotnev> sure
2011-05-22 16:44 <Jay7> vogue was on habrhabr.ru
2011-05-22 16:44 <vladkorotnev> lemme upload them
2011-05-22 16:44 <lunavorax_mini> vladkorotnev, thank you :)
2011-05-22 16:44 <vladkorotnev> http://cl.ly/1L3t0P3d1E2H0g281b02 -- internals
2011-05-22 16:45 <vladkorotnev> http://cl.ly/1g3G0Y252D3s1c3z1i2K -- two buttons, cpu, flash
2011-05-22 16:45 <kyak> xMff: what do you think about this ticket and patch https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/9442 - can it be accepted?
2011-05-22 16:46 <xMff> kyak: has it any side effects?
2011-05-22 16:46 <vladkorotnev> http://cl.ly/020m1M3h1Z2u1w182F0U -- not disassembled
2011-05-22 16:46 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: that's it
2011-05-22 16:47 <kyak> xMff: not anything i know about right now. I build most ncurses apps just fine, without side effects
2011-05-22 16:47 <xMff> ok
2011-05-22 16:47 <lunavorax_mini> vladkorotnev, Very very very intersting
2011-05-22 16:48 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: it's almost the same
2011-05-22 16:48 <lunavorax_mini> How much does the magazine cost then ?
2011-05-22 16:48 <lunavorax_mini> 99usd ? ;)
2011-05-22 16:48 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: AFAIR approx. 89 RUR = ~$3 o_0
2011-05-22 16:49 <lunavorax_mini> ...
2011-05-22 16:49 <lunavorax_mini> I need one :o
2011-05-22 16:49 <lunavorax_mini> vladkorotnev, what country it is ?
2011-05-22 16:49 <kristianpaul> too
2011-05-22 16:49 <Jay7> wants one too :)
2011-05-22 16:49 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: Russia :P
2011-05-22 16:49 <Jay7> lunavorax_mini: russia
2011-05-22 16:49 <lunavorax_mini> Oh
2011-05-22 16:49 <lunavorax_mini> Russia isn't that far away from France after all :P
2011-05-22 16:50 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: Almost all of them are sold by now, I had a hard time finding iy
2011-05-22 16:50 <vladkorotnev> *it
2011-05-22 16:51 <lunavorax_mini> Darn
2011-05-22 16:51 <lunavorax_mini> I like the fact that the cpu is visible and not covered of glue/whatever
2011-05-22 16:52 <kyak> "Russia isn't that far away from France after all" - that's what Napoleon said ;)
2011-05-22 16:52 <vladkorotnev> lunavorax_mini: don't worry, you can always buy the vogue or the Pb version second-hand
2011-05-22 16:52 <vladkorotnev> kyak: LOL!
2011-05-22 16:52 <Jay7> kyak: :))
2011-05-22 16:52 <Jay7> trying to imagine second-hand playboy magazine
2011-05-22 16:52 <lunavorax_mini> Yeah no
2011-05-22 16:53 <vladkorotnev> Jay7: lol
2011-05-22 16:53 <kristianpaul> okay we need this same thing on a Linux Magazine :D
2011-05-22 16:54 <Jay7> with girls and pocker
2011-05-22 16:54 <kristianpaul> then i'll start buying it :-)
2011-05-22 16:54 <vladkorotnev> Jay7: I prefer blackjack :P
2011-05-22 16:54 <vladkorotnev> :D
2011-05-22 16:54 <lunavorax_mini> Jay7, "In fact, forget the magasine"
2011-05-22 16:54 <Jay7> lunavorax_mini: bingo! :)
2011-05-22 16:54 <lunavorax_mini> Jay7, ;)
2011-05-22 16:55 <lunavorax_mini> kristianpaul, the only issue of the Linux Magazine I bought was the one about the Ben :P
2011-05-22 16:56 <vladkorotnev> btw, does anybody know if it's possible to get xburst-tools working on a Mac?
2011-05-22 16:56 <Jay7> it may depends..
2011-05-22 16:56 <Jay7> hard part is working with usb
2011-05-22 16:57 <vladkorotnev> doesn't it use libusb?
2011-05-22 16:58 <Jay7> with libusb it should be easy to port then
2011-05-22 16:58 <kristianpaul> lunavorax_mini: :-)
2011-05-22 16:58 <kristianpaul> lunavorax_mini: ben and linux magazine on same package? ;-)
2011-05-22 16:59 <Jay7> it should have two pages
2011-05-22 16:59 <Jay7> one with printed e-paper display
2011-05-22 16:59 <Jay7> and one with printed keyboard
2011-05-22 16:59 <vladkorotnev> :D it'd be kewl
2011-05-22 17:00 <vladkorotnev> btw, also, can the Ben be used to view mjpeg?
2011-05-22 17:00 <lunavorax_mini> kristianpaul, I wish it was, it was only an article. I bought it before buying a Ben.
2011-05-22 17:01 <lunavorax_mini> Linux oriented magazine should stop giving free cds and start giving free Bens.
2011-05-22 17:01 <kristianpaul> yay
2011-05-22 17:01 <xMff> kyak: added
2011-05-22 17:02 <Jay7> may be possible for year-long subscribers
2011-05-22 17:02 <Jay7> vladkorotnev: it should be possible to view mpg files on ben
2011-05-22 17:02 <kyak> xMff: thanks!
2011-05-22 17:02 <Jay7> but with limited resolution/bitrage
2011-05-22 17:02 <Jay7> *bitrate
2011-05-22 17:03 <vladkorotnev> Jay7: i know about mpg, I want mjpeg :P
2011-05-22 17:03 <vladkorotnev> are there any programs out there?
2011-05-22 17:03 <Jay7> why not.. codecs are question :)
2011-05-22 17:03 <Jay7> mplayer?
2011-05-22 17:03 <vladkorotnev> Jay7: i think no.. it's more a jpeg than a movie
2011-05-22 17:04 <vladkorotnev> http://get1.vision.ufanet.ru/mjpeg/37 -- Here's an example of such a file
2011-05-22 17:04 <vladkorotnev> live stream from a webcam
2011-05-22 17:05 <Jay7> ah
2011-05-22 17:06 <Jay7> series of jpeg images I think
2011-05-22 17:07 <Jay7> I've installed zoneminder with 2 ip-cams for customer one time
2011-05-22 17:07 <Jay7> that ip-cams producing similar stream
2011-05-22 17:09 <lunavorax_mini> kristianpaul, do you know why does the Ben's root account doesn't have a password by default ?
2011-05-22 17:10 <kristianpaul> telnet it first
2011-05-22 17:10 <kristianpaul> the  change password 
2011-05-22 17:10 <kristianpaul> then*
2011-05-22 17:10 <lunavorax_mini> Hum ok, I'm going to try this
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: ath9k: clean up tx fifo handling on ar9380 based hardware http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3f884a8
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] hcg: [omap35xx]: Remove override of max80211.sh http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/bfa88b1
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] cshore: Simple typo for kmod- prefix in alix2 target makefile. http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/26031a8
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: ath9k: fix some locking issues in the tx fifo cleanup patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f538e8b
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: broadcom-wl: fix uninitialized variable http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5917464
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: broadcom-wl: fix wild ssb_device accesses as pci_dev for legacy pci dma api http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/1d7d17d
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [ar7] add GT701 LEDs support (#9382) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/67af013
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for USR9108 LEDs (#9372) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/af9b1e4
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for BT Voyager 2500 (#9070) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/42c4ab0
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [kernel] refresh 2.6.37 patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/1a5f615
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for D-Link DVA-G3810BN/TL http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/d23e671
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [brcm63xx] refresh patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4643cac
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for DSL-2640B rev B2 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e053237
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] florian: [brcm63xx] add support for BT Voyager 2110 (#8810) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f75d3ae
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] jow: [package] firewall: explictely mention network in default configuration, makes it less confusing http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f3320c5
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: add LD_LIBRARY to cmake.mk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/26e3904
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] jow: [package] iw: fix calculation of fractional multicast rates like 5.5Mbps due to wrong operator precedence http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/7a9dd45
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] jow: [package] ncurses: enable C++ bindings (#9442) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9a8b34e
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: optimize for ben nanonote http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/49bceea
2011-05-22 17:54 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: base-files, move it to openwrt-package/nanonote-files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5397460
2011-05-22 18:02 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: libpurple: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0cde876
2011-05-22 18:02 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: centerim5: initial port http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/d04c529
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] David Kühling: mplayer_jz47xx: upgrade to 0.1.5 version that supports /proc/<pid>/pagemap http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/54ae318
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] David Kühling: mplayer_jz47xx: fix md5-sum for updated version http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/46bda1e
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: update ffmpeg to a working git revision http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/73ca357
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] David Kühling: emacs: make programming language comments colored by default http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/773dfe1
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: config.full_system: disable busybox's strings, enable binutils and http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/4d609cd
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: data: files: add opkg.conf http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/edcfe1e
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Neil Stockbridge: There is now a package for SDL API man pages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/aca02e1
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: data: config.full_system: enable 'man' in busybox http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/8606053
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Neil Stockbridge: There is now a ( very simple) man page viewer that supports MANPATH http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/e15a705
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Neil Stockbridge: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:openwrt-packages http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/5d8d83a
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Neil Stockbridge: The libsdl-doc-man Makefile is now more elegant http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/62d7bcd
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: config.full_system: disable libxfce4util http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/9b8498d
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: stardict enalbe man page search http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/c911cb2
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: nanonote-files: feeds.conf: disable useless feeds http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/a4a100c
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Neil Stockbridge: libsdl-doc-man has been renamed to libsdl-dev and now includes header files http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/1460a79
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Neil Stockbridge: There is now a libncurses-dev package http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/b9ee6f4
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: avrdude: remove BROKEN http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/bfff7c1
2011-05-22 18:36 <qi-bot> [commit] kyak: Merge branch 'master' into trunk http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/ad8ac99
2011-05-22 18:43 <kristianpaul> commit war :-)
2011-05-22 18:46 <lunavorax_mini> There can only be one ;)
2011-05-22 19:03 <lunavorax_mini> kristianpaul, telnet doesn't seems to work with my Ben
2011-05-22 19:03 <lunavorax_mini> (flashed with the latest image of course)
2011-05-22 19:19 <kristianpaul> lunavorax_mini: can you ping it?
2011-05-22 19:27 <lunavorax_mini> yeah
2011-05-22 19:32 <kristianpaul> can you do ssh?
2011-05-22 19:33 <lunavorax_mini> Let me check
2011-05-22 19:33 <kristianpaul> if thats posible, then, i bet root have just no password
2011-05-22 19:35 <lunavorax_mini> kristianpaul, indeed, it's possible and yes root have no password
2011-05-22 22:16 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: afaik, the scheamtics and layout were specifically modified for sharism. so it should have been possible to bring out usb host. i guess it's just that nobody realized how useful it would have been.
2011-05-22 22:19 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: oh
2011-05-22 22:39 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/setup.fig: added an arrow to drawing for atusb flashing http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/21c70eb
2011-05-22 22:39 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/: added atusb-flash script and adapted infrastructure http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e9d65fb
2011-05-22 22:39 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/flash.html: described the flashing process http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/6adfd4b
2011-05-22 22:39 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/analysis.html: emphasize that 1 MHz clock is normal without firmware http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/86ea428
2011-05-22 22:39 <qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: prod/doc/setup.html: added instructions for atusb flashing prerequisites http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/451fc8c