2011-04-26 00:53 <wpwrak> rejon: ah, here's one upper bound for the resolution: the maximum MMC block size is 2048 bytes. so a line couldn't be larger than this many samples/pixels. of course, the real limit may be much lower ...
2011-04-26 00:53 <rejon> aha
2011-04-26 01:36 <rjeffries_> MMC association closed up shop and merged into JDEC  http://www.mmca.org/
2011-04-26 01:43 <wpwrak> rjeffries_: yup
2011-04-26 01:44 <wpwrak> rjeffries_: you can still get the docs, though
2011-04-26 01:44 <wpwrak> rjeffries_: they make you "register", but they don't require a valid e-mail address
2011-04-26 02:17 <rjeffries_> cool beans
2011-04-26 02:18 <rjeffries_> your right angle connector for connecting a scope (or anything else) to UBB looks useful
2011-04-26 02:28 <wpwrak> rjeffries_: yeah, i'm already putting it to use :)
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Add Firmware 5.10.56.27 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/21ca38e
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Expose debug option http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3c0289d
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Expose PIO mode fallback http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/525ee45
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] hauke: mac80211: b43: Expose N-PHY support http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/f3a65e7
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: busybox: fix issues with static routes and 6rd option parsing (thx, Florian Fuessl) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9649fa8
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: busybox: refresh patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3564c67
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] jow: [package] firewall: prevent excessive uci state data aggregation (#9152) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/8d0ec89
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] jow: [package] ppp: prevent duplicate hotplug for non uci managed ppp interfaces (#9275) http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/920b7c5
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] jow: [package] ppp: extend the r26742 change to ip-down too http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/2be8e60
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: mac80211: update to wireless-testing 2011-04-19, contains several beacon related fixes for ath9k http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/83ef4a5
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] hauke: mac80211: remove unneeded patch http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/e7a0967
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] acoul: linux/ar71xx: add 2.6.38 preliminary support  http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/dfba2f5
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] acoul: linux/ar71xx: update wget2nand script http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b7a26a7
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] acoul: linux/adm5120: update wget2nand script http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/15b4a06
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: hostapd: update to 2011-04-21 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/454a4d2
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: mac80211: do rate control updates when the HT configuration changes on an interface http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4e1f633
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: hostapd: fix a few compile errors and warnings http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/4feb070
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: cfg80211: revert upstream regdomain handling breakage http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9df10a2
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: ath9k: remove the signal strength fix, it causes a lot of confusion and seems to be just as inaccurate as the original version of the code http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/0318dc0
2011-04-26 02:34 <qi-bot> [commit] nbd: mac80211: replace the regd revert patch with a proper fix, add some more pending patches http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/542d043
2011-04-26 02:35 <wpwrak> aha, we're getting a new kernel :)
2011-04-26 02:35 <kristianpaul> http://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/index.htm :D
2011-04-26 02:36 <xiangfu> update the 'trunk' branch first. :)
2011-04-26 02:37 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: collecting reading material for the 1st of may ? :)
2011-04-26 02:44 <kristianpaul> wpwrak: he, no actually, i get to that link because of http://www.copenhagenfreeuniversity.dk/ <--  we have won!!
2011-04-26 02:46 <DocScrutinizer> .oO(???)
2011-04-26 02:48 <wolfspraul> yes very cool. we have won!
2011-04-26 02:48 <wpwrak> "This is why we haven’t published papers or dissertations to wrap up the research projects that we have worked with."  keeping a rather low profile, are we ? :)
2011-04-26 03:54 <akiwiguy> Hello.
2011-04-26 04:02 <xiangfu> akiwiguy: hi
2011-04-26 09:47 <akiwiguy> Hi xiangfu
2011-04-26 09:48 <xiangfu> akiwiguy: Hi
2011-04-26 09:53 <xiangfu> akiwiguy: I have to reboot my system. back online later. :)
2011-04-26 09:56 <kyak> o hi David
2011-04-26 09:57 <kyak> i'm trying to build the latest MPlayer
2011-04-26 09:57 <kyak> when ffmpeg checkout, i have this error: fatal: reference is not a tree: 3d462373f8e8fa58b697a9b2d93a5edf70841937
2011-04-26 09:57 <kyak> so far, i will download you copy of Mplayer http://mosquito.dyndns.tv/david/nanonote/MPlayer-r33304.tar.gz to proceed further
2011-04-26 09:57 <dvdk> kyak: huh?  why did it work for me? hmm.  cannot access my sources from work.
2011-04-26 09:58 <dvdk> kyak: going to look into this maybe tomorrow
2011-04-26 09:58 <dvdk> btw what I catually came here to report: :)
2011-04-26 09:58 <kyak> dvdk: i read a bit, it seems such things can happend on big commit to git
2011-04-26 09:58 <dvdk> Finally somebody is fighting back against the MPEGLA maffia:
2011-04-26 09:59 <dvdk> http://blog.webmproject.org/2011/04/introducing-webm-community-cross.html
2011-04-26 09:59 <dvdk> kyak: any ideas how to prevent such a thing in the future?
2011-04-26 10:00 <dvdk> kyak: the tgz you downloaded is exactly from my openwrt/dl directory, so 100% matches my config
2011-04-26 10:00 <kyak> dvdk: i'm not sure that such things happen very often to worry about it..
2011-04-26 10:00 <dvdk> kyak: well from the sample we have, it happens 1 out of 2 times :)
2011-04-26 10:01 <kyak> i'm not a git superuser at all, i found this explanation:
2011-04-26 10:01 <kyak> "Oops, someone made a super-project commit that refers to an unpublished commit in the submodule sub"
2011-04-26 10:01 <dvdk> kyak: already gave up on comprehinding git :)
2011-04-26 10:01 <kyak> so we need to pick another commit :)
2011-04-26 10:01 <dvdk> kyak: feel free to search one that actually works :)
2011-04-26 10:02 <dvdk> s/works/still works
2011-04-26 10:02 <dvdk> wolfspraul: look who joins the google-webm cross licensing: MIPs Technologies (see link above)
2011-04-26 10:02 <kyak> is it a fair assumption that the latest one shoudl work?
2011-04-26 10:03 <dvdk> kyak: the one i used, was the latest one from maybe saturday.  so just try.
2011-04-26 10:03 <kyak> dvdk: anyway, the build of mplayer from your sources has just finished successfully
2011-04-26 10:03 <dvdk> i.e. "yes"
2011-04-26 10:03 <dvdk> kyak: makefile still missing code to add back proprietary codecs when build_patented set.
2011-04-26 10:03 <dvdk> hope you're not disappointed
2011-04-26 10:04 <dvdk> also i removed mpeg1 support, mayb can add that back, since too old for patents.
2011-04-26 10:13 <kyak> dvdk: is OK for me as long as your driver works find and ogg is playable
2011-04-26 10:16 <dvdk> kyak: ok.  btw without the ffmpeg ogg demuxer, it only uses libtheora (not fftheora).  with libtheora some high-detail scenes jerk at 320x240, 25fps.
2011-04-26 10:17 <dvdk> kyak: so you might also want to try webm (seems to work, just the encoder is slower and not as well-tuned as ffmpeg2theora)
2011-04-26 10:17 <dvdk> maybe recompiling libtheora with -O2 might help.  dunno
2011-04-26 10:18 <kyak> ok.. are you using the same settings for ffmpeg2theora as you described in your e-mail? or something has changed?
2011-04-26 10:18 <dvdk> kyak: wrote two emails. first try was 256x144 with upscaling, which shouldn't be a problem, even at 30fps.
2011-04-26 10:18 <dvdk> however 320x176 may jerk, at least at 30fps.
2011-04-26 10:19 <dvdk> kyak: no , nothing has changed.  just that i did some more encodes with diffferent materials for testing over the last days.
2011-04-26 10:21 <dvdk> wolfspraul: saw the webm-cross-licensing they just started? http://www.webm-ccl.org/
2011-04-26 10:21 <wolfspraul> yes great
2011-04-26 10:21 <wolfspraul> it doesn't help much specifically (legally), but it builds up a certain 'counterforce'
2011-04-26 10:21 <wolfspraul> always good
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> they got some nice partners too, like LG and Samsung
2011-04-26 10:22 <dvdk> wolfspraul: not sure whether they can use it for counter-suing.  nothing about that in there agreement.
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> just watch out - this kind of deal only means that those companies cross-license to each other :-)
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> oh no
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> the typical patent troll totally doesn't care about this
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> neither will mpeg la
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> but it's good for the press and general audience
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> "lots of big companies - must be good"
2011-04-26 10:22 <wolfspraul> that kind of thing
2011-04-26 10:23 <wolfspraul> I'm glad they do it, otherwise the other side has their loudspeakers on all the time...
2011-04-26 10:23 <dvdk> wolfspraul: even MIPS Inc joined the party.
2011-04-26 10:24 <dvdk> wolfspraul: well, they could turn webm-ccl into a pantent-pool for h264 :)  every licensee would have to promise never suing against webm users :)
2011-04-26 10:33 <kyak> dvdk: ok, great.. i hope i have some time to do some testing in next few days :)
2011-04-26 11:02 <wpwrak> roh: hmm, i have to leave joker.com ... is godaddy.com an acceptable domain registrar ? (just for almesberger.net)
2011-04-26 11:05 <roh> wpwrak: eeh.. dunno. i never bought domains that way
2011-04-26 11:05 <roh> i always told somebody and ever few years they ask some decent for money
2011-04-26 11:06 <roh> eh.. the for needs to shl 2 words
2011-04-26 11:08 <wpwrak> roh: heh, outsourcing is nice ;-) ah well, i guess i'll just try my luck
2011-04-26 11:08 <roh> wpwrak: wait a moment.. asking him
2011-04-26 11:09 <mth> wpwrak: they weren't very popular in a recent slashdot discussion: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/04/22/0144213/IMSLP-Taken-Down-By-UK-Publishers-Group
2011-04-26 11:09 <roh> wpwrak: why do you have to leave them?
2011-04-26 11:09 <roh> godaddy isnt good i hear... troublesome to get domains back when they got them
2011-04-26 11:10 <akiwiguy> Godaddy sucks.
2011-04-26 11:12 <roh> wpwrak: my expert says: 'stay at joker.com'
2011-04-26 11:12 <wpwrak> roh: almesberger.net is about to expire and renewal by credit card requires "verified by visa" or the mastercard equivalent. alternatively, i could wire the money, but for this, i'd have to register as a reseller, which adds even more bureaucracy
2011-04-26 11:12 <roh> i see. and you got no cc?
2011-04-26 11:14 <wpwrak> roh: i have visa and mastercard, but i don't want those extra verifications. because once you agree to them, a lot of online transactions get more complicated/unreliable, and the contract terms are changed as well
2011-04-26 11:14 <akiwiguy> http://networksolutions.com
2011-04-26 11:15 <roh> wpwrak: i see.
2011-04-26 11:15 <roh> akiwiguy: irgh.
2011-04-26 11:15 <roh> wpwrak: how much time is left? maybe you can find somebody with a cc in europe to do the payment for you
2011-04-26 11:15 <akiwiguy> roh: Whats wrong with that?
2011-04-26 11:16 <roh> akiwiguy: dark side ;)
2011-04-26 11:17 <wpwrak> roh: about three weeks left
2011-04-26 11:17 <roh> wpwrak: i see.. maybe gismo can help. i think he got some cc
2011-04-26 11:17 <roh> i dont
2011-04-26 11:18 <wpwrak> roh: (payment via proxy) seems rather convoluted :) naw, i'll just take my business somewhere where they're not so difficult
2011-04-26 11:19 <roh> wpwrak: its a generic problem.
2011-04-26 11:20 <wpwrak> roh: it's the first relevant placed i've seen that doesn't offer sensible payment options. normally, you just pay with your cc with no further ado.
2011-04-26 11:21 <wpwrak> s/placed/place/
2011-04-26 11:22 <roh> wpwrak: cc billing for non-eu/us customers is hell.
2011-04-26 11:23 <roh> i can tell you that for sure after living through it with om
2011-04-26 11:23 <roh> SEPA rules btw
2011-04-26 11:25 <wpwrak> roh: dunno. never had trouble so far. worst case, they ask you to e-mail a photo of your passport.
2011-04-26 11:27 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: i see that you're using enom.com. are you happy with them ?
2011-04-26 11:41 <wpwrak> enom.com looks reasonably clean. good faq. no cheesy stuff like "domain auctions". well, they have "premium domains", so they're in the squatter biz, too
2011-04-26 11:47 <wpwrak> roh: (cc for non-eu/us) most of the weird things are connected to the issuing bank, not the card holder's country of residence. so with my swiss-issued cards, i have no trouble, where the argentina-issued one is basically useless abroad. both have exactly the same owner information.
2011-04-26 11:48 <wpwrak> roh: ironically, the cards from .ch are even less trouble inside argentina (here, they very often require shops to call in to verify a transaction. but they never do this with my foreign cards)
2011-04-26 11:56 <wolfspraul> wpwrak: enom is fine, but I have no moral standards, I think that industry stinks
2011-04-26 11:57 <wolfspraul> I find them expensive
2011-04-26 11:57 <wolfspraul> and yes they do lots of cheesy things, like everybody else
2011-04-26 11:57 <wolfspraul> I was seriously thinking sometimes about advertising IP addresses instead ;-)
2011-04-26 11:57 <wolfspraul> but maybe that's a bit too radical...
2011-04-26 11:59 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: (ip addr) ;-))) may get tricky with e-mail
2011-04-26 13:50 <kristianpaul> hey no,  advertising IP addresses is not a bad idea if you consider that from ipv6 you may get some sense ip number to remenber easilly ;)
2011-04-26 13:51 <kristianpaul> hmm email
2011-04-26 13:52 <kristianpaul> hash based email ;)
2011-04-26 13:52 <kristianpaul> i like that indea from the i2p network
2011-04-26 13:55 <kristianpaul> s/indea/idea
2011-04-26 16:00 <kristianpaul> what gell this does?   :(){ :|: & };:
2011-04-26 16:00 <kristianpaul> s/gell/hell
2011-04-26 16:13 <larsc> kristianpaul: forkbomb
2011-04-26 16:14 <larsc> declares a function namend ":" which calles itself twice
2011-04-26 16:15 <kristianpaul> ouch
2011-04-26 16:16 <kristianpaul> i tought the : was a null character
2011-04-26 16:16 <kristianpaul> what the ; for?
2011-04-26 16:17 <kristianpaul> ah, just to close the brackets..
2011-04-26 16:17 <kristianpaul> he, anywya
2011-04-26 16:18 <xiangfu> kristianpaul: larsc make my system, as you see, I have to reboot.
2011-04-26 16:18 <xiangfu> make my system freeze
2011-04-26 16:18 <xiangfu> :)
2011-04-26 16:18 <kristianpaul> ;)
2011-04-26 16:21 <kristianpaul> ah wikipedia have an article about it.nice
2011-04-26 16:24 <larsc> you can do all sorts of smiley-bombs :-() {:-| :-} ;-|
2011-04-26 16:24 <wpwrak> kristianpaul: how sweet, a fork-bomb. didn't think you could redefine ":"
2011-04-26 16:27 <kristianpaul> me either
2011-04-26 16:27 <wpwrak> larsc: that one may actually be recoverable, since it's linear
2011-04-26 16:29 <kristianpaul> what other special chars can be redefined..
2011-04-26 16:30 <wpwrak> = too ;-)
2011-04-26 16:32 <larsc> is : a special char in shell?
2011-04-26 16:33 <kristianpaul> dunno, is it?
2011-04-26 16:33 <kristianpaul> i just tought it was
2011-04-26 16:33 <wpwrak> larsc: not in a function name, only in a variable name
2011-04-26 16:33 <larsc> have upyou ever used it when writing shell scripts?
2011-04-26 16:34 <kristianpaul> not me..
2011-04-26 16:34 <wpwrak> here's a nice one (safe to use):  2+2() { echo 5; }
2011-04-26 16:34 <wpwrak> larsc: yes, the single : yes. but never thought of redefining it.
2011-04-26 16:35 <kristianpaul> hmm zsh may protect me :)
2011-04-26 16:35 <wpwrak> larsc: makes sense, though. after all, you can also have things line  git-commit  but not  foo-bar=2
2011-04-26 16:39 <larsc> ah... : is a nop
2011-04-26 16:41 <larsc> but well, you can alias other commands as well
2011-04-26 16:41 <wpwrak> grmbl. need to remount / ...
2011-04-26 16:42 <kristianpaul> nop, yeah, at first it tought it was so inoffensive
2011-04-26 16:45 <wpwrak> GRRR
2011-04-26 16:46 <wpwrak> file system still broken
2011-04-26 20:24 <Fusin> :)
2011-04-26 20:57 <rjeffries> wpwrak I have used godaddy to register domains, never had an issue
2011-04-26 22:15 <mth> whitequark: it seems the autotools support in jzboot in the qi-hardware repository is incomplete
2011-04-26 22:15 <mth> automake refuses to process Makefile.am since there is no conifgure.ac
2011-04-26 22:17 <mth> or configure.in, I always forget what is the old name and what is the new one
2011-04-26 22:22 <xMff> .in is old
2011-04-26 22:22 <xMff> .ac is new
2011-04-26 23:30 <wpwrak> rejon: if looking for consortia, maybe also consider CELF
2011-04-26 23:36 <rejon> do you know anyone at CELF?
2011-04-26 23:36 <rejon> any intros appreciated
2011-04-26 23:37 <Jay7> rejon: Tim Bird
2011-04-26 23:37 <rejon> ok
2011-04-26 23:37 <rejon> please email me intro
2011-04-26 23:37 <rejon> jon@sharism.cc
2011-04-26 23:38 <Jay7> rejon: what do you need there?
2011-04-26 23:39 <Jay7> and for your info, CELF is merged with LF
2011-04-26 23:41 <wpwrak> Jay7: oh, i didn't know of this merger
2011-04-26 23:41 <Jay7> Richard Purdie may be right person to contact too
2011-04-26 23:41 <Jay7> he is LF Fellow now
2011-04-26 23:42 <rejon> ok, great
2011-04-26 23:42 <rejon> lets get some more people involved in what we doing is the goal
2011-04-26 23:42 <Jay7> well
2011-04-26 23:43 <Jay7> rejon: I'll email you their contacts
2011-04-26 23:46 <Jay7> rejon: sent
2011-04-26 23:48 <rejon> great
2011-04-26 23:48 <rejon> thanks
2011-04-26 23:48 <Jay7> rejon: /whois RP or RP__
2011-04-26 23:48 <Jay7> this is Richard
2011-04-26 23:49 <Jay7> well..
2011-04-26 23:49 <Jay7> -> sleep
2011-04-26 23:52 <rejon> ;)
2011-04-26 23:52 <rejon> ha
2011-04-26 23:52 <rejon> brb