2011-04-08 08:12 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: remove useless config.h http://qi-hw.com/p/jzboot/c9f7c85
2011-04-08 08:14 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: update libusb-1.0 LIBS CFLAGS to configure.ac http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/71d2db0
2011-04-08 08:14 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: jzboot: submodule update http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/ad27abc
2011-04-08 08:15 <xiangfu> whitequark is faster.
2011-04-08 08:15 <xiangfu> I just merge my code to xburst-tools.
2011-04-08 08:15 <xiangfu> kyak: ^
2011-04-08 08:16 <tuxbrain> wpwrak: I have 3 possible recruits for the RF analisys from the guifi.net project , two of them (the less "affordable" due are really busy guys) have equipment and whatever else needed to perform certifications, the other one is more easy to reach can't perform certification but has equipment and skills to do obtain reliable results , I will try to meet him next week to do some testing of the tests,  with the prototypes, so is time to think how we go
2011-04-08 08:16 <tuxbrain> nna do that due it will be similar to put an 4 years old child in front of the commands of a Boing 747
2011-04-08 08:16 <tuxbrain> of course the 4 years old dude is me
2011-04-08 08:18 <kyak> xiangfu: yep, i'm watching it :) would be great to adapt the reflash_ben.sh commands to jzboot. It still makes we wondering
2011-04-08 08:19 <xiangfu> which target images you using?
2011-04-08 08:19 <xiangfu> xburst_target1.bin xburst_target2.bin or the jzboot's firmware?
2011-04-08 08:40 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: add print version http://qi-hw.com/p/jzboot/2a49d71
2011-04-08 08:47 <qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: jzboot. submodule update http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/c070928
2011-04-08 08:49 <xiangfu> kyak: I think the ingenic's target image not working under software usbboot mode.
2011-04-08 10:16 <whitequark> kyak: have you tried jzboot with ben?
2011-04-08 11:59 <kyak> whitequark: started it and saw it recoginze the chip, nothing more
2011-04-08 12:00 <kyak> whitequark: i mean, i did nothing more than that
2011-04-08 13:26 <wpwrak> tuxbrain: (guifi) excellent ! yes, the one with basic equipment will probable be more than enough for the production testing. but it's good that you also found people who can do certification. that will be
2011-04-08 13:26 <wpwrak> very valuable in the future
2011-04-08 13:32 <whitequark> kyak: can you start it with parameters -C config/boot.cfg and post the debug log (-d4) to pastebin?
2011-04-08 15:17 <kyak> whitequark: ./jzboot/src/jzboot -C config/boot.cfg -d4 would output usage
2011-04-08 15:22 <whitequark> kyak: -i 0, of course
2011-04-08 15:41 <kyak> whitequark: http://dpaste.com/530034/
2011-04-08 16:04 <whitequark> kyak: hmm, looks like your ben is in strange state. try replugging it and running that again
2011-04-08 16:05 <whitequark> the library should not timeout
2011-04-08 16:14 <kyak> whitequark: after replugging http://dpaste.com/530039/
2011-04-08 16:14 <kyak> the output is different for the first time
2011-04-08 16:22 <whitequark> kyak: looks like the firmware is wrong (probably). can you compile stage1&2 from xburst-tools (the usual way) and place them into jzboot/firmware/ instead of existing ones?
2011-04-08 16:26 <kyak> xburst_stage1.bin  xburst_stage2.bin, right?
2011-04-08 16:29 <larsc> yes
2011-04-08 16:29 <kyak> whitequark: http://dpaste.com/530044/
2011-04-08 16:40 <whitequark> ah yes, much better now
2011-04-08 16:41 <whitequark> basically, it works just as expected. I'll now look up correct values for ben, and probably you will able to flash it
2011-04-08 20:19 <jesperj> is there an open source GSM modem firmware?
2011-04-08 20:19 <jesperj> for replacing GSM modem firmware in cell phone
2011-04-08 20:19 <jesperj> I'll just throw the link here and explain what I'm up to:
2011-04-08 20:19 <jesperj> http://pastebin.com/SMB2tsUG
2011-04-08 20:21 <jesperj>  no way that I will use some totally unknown phone from some small China company that almost doesn't seem to exist without checking it for backdoors etc, and besides that I'd like to replace the firmware / OS with open source stuff that I can modify
2011-04-08 20:37 <whitequark> jesperj: there is no such thing as generic 'GSM modem firmware' at all. you'll need different firmwares for each particular modem (not even talking about calibration data)
2011-04-08 20:38 <whitequark> moreover, due to GSM being very closed and unfriendly, and requiring a lot of NDAs and certifications, there is AFAIK no open-sourced GSM firmwares at all
2011-04-08 20:38 <whitequark> at least ones that can work in a real phone
2011-04-08 20:44 <wpwrak> whitequark: well, this goes in the right direction: http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/
2011-04-08 20:47 <jesperj> whitequark: oh ok...
2011-04-08 20:52 <GNUtoo> what about osmcombb?
2011-04-08 20:53 <whitequark> wpwrak: that's interesting, but it even cannot transmit yet
2011-04-08 20:54 <wpwrak> whitequark: sure ? http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/08/14#20100814-dieter_tch_voice_call
2011-04-08 20:58 <whitequark> wpwrak: oh well. then i read an outdated wiki page
2011-04-08 22:10 <jesperj> http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2765/00099a.jpg
2011-04-08 22:11 <jesperj> Does anyone in here know what that white stuff on the chip can be?
2011-04-08 22:11 <jesperj> And the black cable my guess is it could be for the antenna...
2011-04-08 22:12 <jesperj> I am wondering about the white stuff because it is in the way so I can't see what chip is under it :)
2011-04-08 22:17 <wpwrak> jesperj: you shouldn't post things via web space that requires registration for viewing
2011-04-08 22:18 <jesperj> wpwrak: I didn't register and it works finre
2011-04-08 22:18 <jesperj> fine
2011-04-08 22:19 <jesperj> wpwrak: do you have trouble viewing that url?
2011-04-08 22:19 <wpwrak> jesperj: yup. i get this: http://imageshack.us/img/blocked_login.jpg
2011-04-08 22:19 <jesperj> um...
2011-04-08 22:20 <jesperj> that's strange
2011-04-08 22:20 <jesperj> maybe it works only for the poster of the image then
2011-04-08 22:24 <jesperj> wpwrak: That sucks though if you can't see it. Sorry for that.
2011-04-08 22:28 <roh> hm. worked for me (link)
2011-04-08 22:29 <roh> whats the thing you hold up?
2011-04-08 22:29 <roh> camera?
2011-04-08 22:30 <roh> my guess is the white stuff is just silicone to keep something from ratteling
2011-04-08 22:30 <jesperj> yeah it's a camera
2011-04-08 22:31 <jesperj> roh: something on the chip from moving? Or like working as a protector against something that lays against the chip?
2011-04-08 22:32 <roh> the latter
2011-04-08 22:32 <roh> like the cable of the cam or so
2011-04-08 22:34 <jesperj> roh: http://pastebin.com/SMB2tsUG I'm trying to find out the hardware on this phone
2011-04-08 22:34 <jesperj> oh.. hm... yeah maybe... Could that flat cable really be a problem for a chip like that though? It shouldn't be a matter of "physical" harm if so, more like some interference or something if it gets too close?
2011-04-08 22:34 <roh> it has 2 sim slots.. so i guess its some mediatek based design.
2011-04-08 22:34 <roh> jesperj: no clue. my guess is just mechanical fitting.. so it doesnt matter much. if you really want to reverse it, buy a second one. one will die.
2011-04-08 22:34 <jesperj> or hmm... actually it could be that the back cable on the right is supposed to rest between the silicon on that chip and the stuff that pressed against it
2011-04-08 22:34 <jesperj> in the assembly
2011-04-08 22:35 <jesperj> (I think the black cable is for the antenna)
2011-04-08 22:35 <roh> could be some antenna. dunno what. bluetooth? wifi? for gsm its too short
2011-04-08 22:36 <jesperj> well it has bluetooth but not wifi
2011-04-08 22:36 <jesperj> I got this phone as a gift
2011-04-08 22:37 <jesperj> and the first thing I do is taking it apart O_O
2011-04-08 22:37 <jesperj> I'll feel bad if it won't work when I put it together heh
2011-04-08 22:37 <jesperj> but I need to know what kind of phone I am playing with
2011-04-08 22:37 <jesperj> and what I can do with it
2011-04-08 22:37 <roh> i think if the silicone does have any function you could replace it with a drop of hot-glue later
2011-04-08 22:40 <jesperj> yeah
2011-04-08 22:40 <jesperj> true
2011-04-08 22:41 <jesperj> what about the metal cover to the left?
2011-04-08 22:41 <jesperj> can one open those without destroying things?
2011-04-08 22:41 <jesperj> are those there for cooling or just for keeping curious ppl like me from looking at what is under? :)
2011-04-08 22:42 <jesperj> wpwrak: if you get curious I can repost to imagebin or something
2011-04-08 22:47 <wpwrak> jesperj: (metal cover) if it's an RF shield (> 10 x 10 mm2, about 2 mm thick), then there are components underneath. and it may be designed such that you can't remove it without destroying it.
2011-04-08 22:48 <jesperj> wpwrak: http://imagebin.org/147240
2011-04-08 22:48 <jesperj> Hope this works better
2011-04-08 22:48 <jesperj> bbs need to do something
2011-04-08 22:55 <wpwrak> jesperj: that works, thanks !
2011-04-08 22:55 <wpwrak> jesperj: yes, the "can" is a shield. can't quite see if it's removable or not. probably removable.
2011-04-08 22:59 <wpwrak> jesperj: what's the thing on the flat cable ? is seems to rest on the chip with the "bird dropping". so that looks indeed like some silicone buffer. you can probably lift it off with a knife with only a minimum of residues.
2011-04-08 23:25 <jesperj> wpwrak: I'm going to resize and upload some more images of the phone pcb
2011-04-08 23:25 <jesperj> I guess you could not see the other ones in the pastebin.com post either then, that were on imageshack
2011-04-08 23:26 <jesperj> I need to find some good free image hosting website that stores the images permanently though. flicker perhaps?
2011-04-08 23:26 <jesperj> flickr
2011-04-08 23:27 <wpwrak> i see only one in the imagebin
2011-04-08 23:27 <jesperj> wpwrak: the thing on the flat cable that I am holding with my fingers is the cell phone camera
2011-04-08 23:27 <jesperj> wpwrak: I meant http://pastebin.com/SMB2tsUG
2011-04-08 23:28 <wpwrak> (camera) ahh, then the bird dropping is definitely a bumper. should be soft if you press on it gently with a fingernail
2011-04-08 23:28 <jesperj> ok
2011-04-08 23:28 <jesperj> cool
2011-04-08 23:29 <jesperj> is flickr an ok image "album" website for sharing lots of images?
2011-04-08 23:29 <wpwrak> (imageshack) naw, just frogcubes
2011-04-08 23:29 <jesperj> meh. stupid imageshack :-(
2011-04-08 23:29 <wpwrak> (flickr) dunno, never used it :)
2011-04-08 23:30 <wpwrak> (i upload my files either to downloads.qi-hw or, if it's not related to qi-hw, to my own server)
2011-04-08 23:34 <jesperj> right