2011-03-19 00:01 <tuxbrain> also I think I have found my clean starting points http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/widgets-codeeditor.html http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/richtext-syntaxhighlighter.html
2011-03-19 00:02 <tuxbrain> yea qt is also 4.7 on NN openwrt :)
2011-03-19 00:03 <wolfspraul> tuxbrain: do you see any orders from it? let's see whether we can create sales...
2011-03-19 00:07 <tuxbrain> wolfspraul: slightly increase but I don't now if they are directly from this apart of two of them than they have also bought an arduino an UBB :)
2011-03-19 00:09 <tuxbrain> but I think is a sure bet still workin in that way, we have rised quite good impresion, in all levels from pro to rookie, now is time to demostrate that is not just a hack but a new way of work with Arduino :)
2011-03-19 00:10 <tuxbrain> and (avr chips)
2011-03-19 00:13 <rjeffries> wpwrak does the Femtoduino have what's needed so it can be programmed from Ben + UBB?
2011-03-19 00:13 <rjeffries> http://www.varesano.net/projects/hardware/Femtoduino
2011-03-19 00:14 <wpwrak> rjeffries: yup, looks good
2011-03-19 00:14 <wpwrak> rjeffries: you need MISO, MOSI, SCK, RESET, GND, and VCC
2011-03-19 00:14 <rjeffries> too cool I hope Sparkfun or someone decides to build femtoduino
2011-03-19 00:21 <tuxbrain> the code editor seems preety simple and straigh forward I like it :) , the code highlighter is a little bit more complex... this will be forwarded to next version :), Wolfgang do you mind to host ardunano Ide in qi-hardware projects when I have some code created?
2011-03-19 00:24 <tuxbrain> time to some sleep, good night dudes :)
2011-03-19 00:25 <wolfspraul> of course qi is all yours
2011-03-19 00:25 <wolfspraul> that's what the servers are for
2011-03-19 03:41 <wolfspraul> C-Keen: great news, I'm happy you could reflash...
2011-03-19 03:41 <wolfspraul> a small step for C-Keen ... :-)
2011-03-19 03:59 <whitequark> tuxbrain: just curious, why develop a new ide when arduino already has one?
2011-03-19 04:00 <whitequark> maybe it's easier to fork
2011-03-19 05:34 <rjeffries> Steve Mosher said on FB re tuxbrain and UBB: Steven wrote: "Hot Damn. I need to hook back up with those guys.. maybe write code again, ive been getting my skills back in order"
2011-03-19 08:51 <tuxbrain> whitequark: Due Arduino IDE is written in Java and was thinked with desktop screens in mind, in this case fork will supose a lot of work and java will eat a lot of our preciouse 32Mb of ram, so in this case better make a separate solution
2011-03-19 09:20 <sujan> hi, where is the new openwrt image for nanonote?
2011-03-19 09:23 <roh> huh? ide? just add an editor and a makefile
2011-03-19 09:24 <roh> there is even a makefile already in the svn. just need to fix the tool-pathes to use system avr-gcc etc not the ones binary in the svn checkout
2011-03-19 09:25 <roh> basically one only needs the /hardware/ tree of the arduino svn
2011-03-19 09:25 <larsc> roh: but you won't have the #include magic then
2011-03-19 09:25 <larsc> and also no play button
2011-03-19 09:25 <roh> larsc: the makefile does it
2011-03-19 09:25 <roh> play is 'make'
2011-03-19 10:20 <Jay7> there was some IDE-like text-mode things
2011-03-19 10:20 <Jay7> iirc, fpe
2011-03-19 10:31 <Jay7> well, fte and rhide seems good enough :)
2011-03-19 10:39 <tuxbrain> roh: target is to catch the Arduino users, all them , and the most are just scared , terrified abuot shell things.... I know joe+make is enough, even we can make some preprocesing script to add the #include magic, but the objective is to atracc costumers, we can have an efficient way also (console based, sure I will use this more than the qt ide) but I'm in dayly contact with Arduino users, and if they see a shell they just look to another side. Let'
2011-03-19 10:39 <tuxbrain> s make them desire the NN with : bells and whistles, and the play button   if needed :)
2011-03-19 10:40 <tuxbrain> and let the console to real avr guys
2011-03-19 10:41 <tuxbrain> sujan: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/2011-02-23/
2011-03-19 10:50 <roh> tuxbrain: the make file already does the adding the include and such
2011-03-19 10:50 <roh> you only need the .pde file really
2011-03-19 10:51 <tuxbrain> roh: you don't have to add manually to the makefile the includes to link? how?
2011-03-19 10:51 <roh> uh.. dunno. to link?
2011-03-19 10:51 <roh> you mean libs?
2011-03-19 10:52 <tuxbrain> yeah
2011-03-19 10:52 <roh> no clue how that should work
2011-03-19 10:52 <roh> i never used the java thing to be fair. much too bad documented for somebody knowing how to use make
2011-03-19 10:53 <tuxbrain> AFAIK that's part of what the IDE does, generate the make file for the pde, and it include the libs used to generate the hex file
2011-03-19 10:54 <tuxbrain> arduino libs is part of the arduino success
2011-03-19 10:55 <tuxbrain> also there is tons of third party libs that arduino makes easy to add, just copy in a dir, and you are done
2011-03-19 11:00 <roh> well.. not magic. just build some script that does it.
2011-03-19 11:00 <roh> bbl
2011-03-19 11:05 <sujan> is there any instructions on using apps on the new openwrt image
2011-03-19 11:07 <wpwrak> tuxbrain: $(CC) ...stuff... $(patsubst %.lib,-l%,$(wildcard *.lib))
2011-03-19 11:21 <wpwrak> yes ! finished migrating the last 3 months worth of mail. finally ! :)
2011-03-19 11:35 <tuxbrain> wpwrak: congrats dude :), such admin task are not usually apreciated and requires a lot of time :)
2011-03-19 11:37 <wolfspraul> wpwrak: so werner@almesberger.net is your new primary address now?
2011-03-19 11:40 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: yup. until that machine breaks :)
2011-03-19 11:41 <wpwrak> wolfspraul: anything sent to werner@openmoko.org will still be forwarded while openmoko.org lasts