2011-01-23 03:45 wolfspraul: hi! i just sent an e-mail to discussion list with attachment ~900Kb, but it was held due to 200Kb size limitation. Should i upload the attachment somewhere else and provide a link instead? 2011-01-23 03:48 kyak: that would be more in line with general mailing list etiquette, yes 2011-01-23 03:48 thanks for asking btw 2011-01-23 03:49 i will keep that in mind 2011-01-23 03:49 i'm not a power user of mailing lists :) 2011-01-23 03:49 i will resend it then 2011-01-23 03:51 ok then I will discard the queued mail, so that nobody else approves it and we have it twice... 2011-01-23 03:52 sure, thanks 2011-01-23 04:44 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: feeds.conf update packages revision to 25034 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/5844648 2011-01-23 04:44 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: config.full_system include plplot-demo http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/a9fb79e 2011-01-23 05:12 [commit] kyak: gottet: use maximum Ben's screen height for board http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/677918c 2011-01-23 05:31 [commit] kyak: qball, gottet, Tile: added gmenu2x items http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/479a593 2011-01-23 05:40 kyak: cool, are those games? 2011-01-23 05:46 wolfspraul: yup 2011-01-23 05:46 qt4-based games 2011-01-23 05:48 nice 2011-01-23 07:13 [commit] David Kühling: new port: zgv: a simple/leightweight image viewer + browser that uses svgalib http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/7fb69c0 2011-01-23 08:15 http://www.moresales.com.my/catalog/entry/uxwlkocd.shtml 2011-01-23 08:26 lekernel $59 USD I guess http://www.moresales.com.my/catalog/entry/uxwlkocd.shtml 2011-01-23 08:27 whoops wrong currency I assumed Yuan oh well 2011-01-23 08:29 lekernel: oh yes :-) 2011-01-23 08:30 I think are even more nanonote derivatives/clones as wolfspraul told me once 2011-01-23 08:34 i think that's the original from which the ben was derived 2011-01-23 08:35 yes 2011-01-23 08:35 even i remenber the screenshots of the dictionary sofware somwhere in downloads.qi... 2011-01-23 09:35 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: Unrouted address pins, fixed http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/b5bb2d3 2011-01-23 09:35 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: fix reg content for simulation porpuses http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/757a2f3 2011-01-23 09:35 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: Simulation enabled in Makefile http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/a0baeac 2011-01-23 09:35 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: Code fixes for the dual-ported ram setup http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/33f0c2e 2011-01-23 09:35 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: FPGA Memory sized fixed to max allowed http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/c856cd1 2011-01-23 09:35 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: code snipets added to/as notes http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/c9d0f17 2011-01-23 09:38 xiangfu: hi! 2011-01-23 09:38 kyak: hi 2011-01-23 09:39 xiangfu: i think i found an issue in gmenu2x skins.. 2011-01-23 09:39 when you change the skin to "backup" (and save) and then change back to "Default", gmenu2x won't start after restart 2011-01-23 09:41 i hunted it down to "messageBoxBg=#00080" line in /usr/share/gmenu2x/skins/Default/skin.conf.. this line is "messageBoxBg=#00000080" in default skin.conf 2011-01-23 09:41 so seems like gmenu2x is not saving its settings correctly 2011-01-23 09:42 so, after change "messageBoxBg=#00080" back to "messageBoxBg=#00000080", gmenu2x would start fine 2011-01-23 09:44 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atben.brd: rearranged component references and values for printing/display http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/84278c8 2011-01-23 09:44 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb.brd: some more cleanup after checking the gerbers http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/b0a5a0c 2011-01-23 09:44 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atben, atusb: set solder mask and solder paste clearances to NXP's values http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/daaac58 2011-01-23 09:46 kyak: hmm... just grep the source code.  seems gmenu2x never using this "messageBoxBg" , there is one line, but it's in comment 2011-01-23 09:47 xiangfu: there are two of them.. 2011-01-23 09:48 kyak: yes. one in comment, another in a static char* 2011-01-23 09:50 if you continue digging, you'll also find COLOR_MESSAGE_BOX_BG 2011-01-23 09:50 gmenu2x.cpp, line 99 2011-01-23 09:51 test,test 2011-01-23 09:51 i had > 100 s lag... thought i'd be disconnected :) 2011-01-23 09:53 ping ping kyak 2011-01-23 09:54 :-) 2011-01-23 09:54 xiangfu: i wanted to ask your opinion on something. There are packages in openwrt feeds explicitely linked against libncurses (non-wide version): irssi, for instance. How should we do if we want to have all those apps linked.. 2011-01-23 09:54 ..against wide ncurses? 2011-01-23 09:54 kristianpaul: thanks ;) 2011-01-23 09:56 kyak: recently I have one idea about packages. let me explain first. (maybe this idea can work on this issue and libiconv (stub version) ) 2011-01-23 09:57 let me start with libiconv-full libiconv-stub libiconv 2011-01-23 09:57 oh good 2011-01-23 09:58 i though about "conditional dependencies" mechanism, that is already there in openwrt 2011-01-23 09:58 something like DEPENDS:=+CONFIG_PACKAGE_libncursesw:libncursesw 2011-01-23 09:59 and then surround this "-lncurses" with if's (and link against lncursesw, if it's selected) 2011-01-23 09:59 there is on "/usr/lib/libiconv-full" anymore. both libiconv-full libiconv-stub install to same place. and they have their names, then libiconv have one line in DEPENDS 2011-01-23 09:59 just like you just wrote. 2011-01-23 09:59 s/there is on/there is no/ 2011-01-23 10:00 i think this could work 2011-01-23 10:00 I plan to test this tomorrow. 2011-01-23 10:01 great! 2011-01-23 10:01 today, I testing David's commit about plplot. 2011-01-23 10:02 kyak: I guess our config.full_system have make rootfs > 512M :) 2011-01-23 10:02 oh!! 2011-01-23 10:02 i'm still living in 256 M :) 2011-01-23 10:02 maybe we should consider and remove some rarely used packages.. build them is "modules" 2011-01-23 10:03 *as 2011-01-23 10:03 I have create a rootfs, (only without emacs), the ubi file is  ~ 429M. 2011-01-23 10:03 (i'm still living in 256 M ) oh, i could not agree better  :-) 2011-01-23 10:03 after reflash it's using 470M 2011-01-23 10:04 kyak: yes. agree, but we don't need build them as 'modules'. because we have 'config.all_packages' now. 2011-01-23 10:04 now we can success build ~ 1700 packages. 2011-01-23 10:05 xiangfu: when you build a release image, how do you know which packages to include withing the image and which to build as "modules"? 2011-01-23 10:06 kyak: we always using "config.full_system", so all the packages in "config.full_system" will included, 2011-01-23 10:07 xiangfu: ok, why do you need the config.all_packages then? 2011-01-23 10:07 kyak: talk about modules, we have another place to keep those modules packages: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/packages/NanoNote/Ben/latest/ 2011-01-23 10:07 yeah 2011-01-23 10:08 kyak: all_packages try to build all ~1700 packages. 2011-01-23 10:09 does it mean that you build two times? first, you build config.all_packages and put them in downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/packages/NanoNote/Ben/latest/, and then you build config.full_system to make the release image? 2011-01-23 10:09 kyak: yes. 2011-01-23 10:09 kyak: take a look here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/ 2011-01-23 10:09 hm, ok.. i thought it could be done in a single build process 2011-01-23 10:09 kyak: in fact I build a lot. debug, xbboot, minimal ... :) 2011-01-23 10:10 nice :) 2011-01-23 10:10 kyak: yes. I think if we have "ImageBuilder" in config.all_packages, then we can just using the config.all_packages. 2011-01-23 10:11 then using the "ImageBuilder" for select the packages we want then create a rootfs.ubi 2011-01-23 10:12 kyak: (BTW, don't know why. the buildhost become very slow. you can see this : http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/openwrt-xburst.all_packages-01212011-2200/" 2011-01-23 10:12 yeah, is it empty because it is still building? 2011-01-23 10:12 (this build start at : (21-Jan-2011 22:02) check the VERSIONS file, and today it's still building ...) 2011-01-23 10:13 not good, i think you could bug wolfspraul about that 2011-01-23 10:13 kyak: yes. you can see the BUILDLOG time changes every minute. 2011-01-23 10:13 right 2011-01-23 10:14 kyak: this time , we want release "mirror sources" "all packages" and "images" 2011-01-23 10:14 "mirror sources" is the "dl" folder. 2011-01-23 10:15 kyak: also maybe next time we can usinig 'opkg update' for update the rootfs. but first we need keep all files in package. 2011-01-23 10:15 there are still some files under "data/qi_lb60/files" 2011-01-23 10:15 yeah, right, very good idea 2011-01-23 10:16 this could take a while 2011-01-23 10:16 (upgrading via opkg) 2011-01-23 10:18 kyak: yes. maybe we also need create packages for u-boot and kernel. 2011-01-23 10:19 xiangfu: btw, did you get a feedback about building monolythic kernel? 2011-01-23 10:19 i.e. not having sound as modules 2011-01-23 10:21 kyak: someone reply email, said they using the monolythic  kernel for long time. 2011-01-23 10:21 $ grep "Package:" tmp/.packageinfo |wc -l 2011-01-23 10:21 3348 2011-01-23 10:22 xiangfu: mean we only have around 50% packages build successfully? 2011-01-23 10:22 kyak: ./scripts/feeds list | wc -l 2011-01-23 10:22 2629 2011-01-23 10:22 oh, much better :) 2011-01-23 10:24 I want release images at Wednesday or Friday. so this time the sound will still build as module. 2011-01-23 10:24 some packages are related to X, not to be counted.. and maybe some can't be built on mips 2011-01-23 10:26 and some are patented.. 2011-01-23 10:27 xiangfu: when building config.all_packages, are there packages that fail to build? 2011-01-23 10:28 ad astersik (*) in hexdump mean i avoid show this lines because are the same as the one i already showed up to address just before the asterisk (*), isnt ? 2011-01-23 10:28 s/ad/an 2011-01-23 10:29 oh yes 2011-01-23 10:29 nv 2011-01-23 10:32 kyak: for now. the php5 fail, 2011-01-23 10:33 plplot-octave and plplot-tcl fail, but David have commit something, don't know if they are compile fine. 2011-01-23 10:33 ah, ok.. who need php :) 2011-01-23 10:34 xiangfu: btw, this page here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Format_Data_Partition seems to be out of date.. when i decide to go to 512 Mb rootfs, how should i do with datafs? 2011-01-23 10:36 yes. needs update, hmm... I just mount the datafs to /root :) 2011-01-23 10:37 heh 2011-01-23 10:38 will be nice is mediawiki support the update of some varibles from a certain file 2011-01-23 10:38 s/varibles/variables 2011-01-23 10:39 would be nice if opkg could install by scp:// :) 2011-01-23 10:41 kyak: I more like the sshfs, 2011-01-23 10:42 but it's not working under 'dropbear' 2011-01-23 10:43 kyak: I think 'sshfs' is design for scp:// :) 2011-01-23 10:53 xiangfu: you'd think it can't be too hard 2011-01-23 10:55 something like fuse or lufs should do it 2011-01-23 10:58 idea for wolfgang & xiangfu: offer a service for $$ so a person can order Nanonote flashed to current image. 2011-01-23 11:05 shouldn't be too hard to make a wget wrapper that translates scp:// urls into actual scp commands 2011-01-23 11:05 opkg just calls "wget" to fetch stuff, it does not even verify schemes 2011-01-23 11:06 nice 2011-01-23 11:06 also, we could steal the jlime-pkg idea 2011-01-23 11:06 it just downloads itself 2011-01-23 11:06 then feeds the local packages to opkg 2011-01-23 11:06 that way you could even switch to a faster download manager like aria2 2011-01-23 11:08 In english when you put let said, 2 bits next to other 2 bits until you got a byte, how i do call that? 2011-01-23 11:09 array? arrange? 2011-01-23 11:10 maybe curl supports scp? 2011-01-23 11:10 synonyms are killing me :-| 2011-01-23 11:11 kristianpaul: padding? 2011-01-23 11:11 i.e. fill bits until got a byte? 2011-01-23 11:12 yay 2011-01-23 11:13 damn, padding dint a direct equibalen neither on both wikipedia on wiktionary.. 2011-01-23 11:13 but the noun seems to be undestable 2011-01-23 11:13 i 'll try with this Jay7 , thanks ! 2011-01-23 11:14 bartbes: it does 2011-01-23 11:14 xMff: curl has been ported already, hasn't it? 2011-01-23 11:14 bartbes: yes 2011-01-23 11:14 well then 2011-01-23 11:15 doesn't that mean we're set? 2011-01-23 11:16 you can compile opkg with curl support 2011-01-23 11:16 it will then use libcurl instead of calling wget 2011-01-23 11:16 probably worth a build variant 2011-01-23 11:17 opkg & opkg-curl 2011-01-23 11:17 relevant code is here: http://code.google.com/p/opkg/source/browse/trunk/libopkg/opkg_download.c#129 2011-01-23 11:17 but that can be toggled through configure 2011-01-23 11:18 xMff: is a very nice hint! 2011-01-23 11:19 I also have commit access to upstream opkg in case some fixing is needed 2011-01-23 11:20 well then 2011-01-23 11:20 what are you waiting for? :P 2011-01-23 11:21 spare time ;) 2011-01-23 11:21 sshfs :) 2011-01-23 11:38 wpwrak: you think "GPS-SDR I/Q data avaliable for Analysis" is a good subject for an update mail about the status of gps-sdr project for the ben nanonote? 2011-01-23 11:38 sure. why not. any update is good :) 2011-01-23 11:39 k 2011-01-23 12:05 kyak:  about all_pakcage and full_system, the better idea is move  "CONFIG_ALL=y" to config.full_system. then we can delete the all_packages. 2011-01-23 12:06 xiangfu: then all packages will be built as "modules", and those that explicitely enabled (i.e. "=y") will be build into image? 2011-01-23 12:06 kyak: yes. 2011-01-23 12:07 this is good 2011-01-23 12:07 we need to reduce the number of =y packages 2011-01-23 12:07 >512 Mb image is so insane :) 2011-01-23 12:09 (finally some one listen to my toughts :-)) 2011-01-23 12:09 kyak: can you write that to mail list, i think this deserves to be discussed 2011-01-23 12:09 s/list/list ? 2011-01-23 12:10 kristianpaul: i really wouldn't like to start this discussion :) there will be many argues what needs to stay in image, and what needs to go away 2011-01-23 12:11 kyak: yes. agree. 2011-01-23 12:11 well at least i tried to convince you ;-) 2011-01-23 12:11 (I mean >512 Mb image is so insane :) 2011-01-23 12:12 Just be prepared for the next resize :-) 2011-01-23 12:21 [commit] Xiangfu Liu: merge all_package and full_system to one http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/ed2bf81 2011-01-23 12:23 xiangfu: do we need to disable all patented packages explicitely? maybe it can be done with "CONFIG_BUILD_PATENTED is not set"? 2011-01-23 12:26 kyak:  the 'ffmepg'  don't have the PATENTED variable in it's Makefile. 2011-01-23 12:28 hm.. very strange. definitely an overlook from ffmpeg's maintainer 2011-01-23 12:33 kyak: wait. there is a "Config.in" in ffmped and it's define some PATENTED. 2011-01-23 12:37 your stock image is >512M now? Sounds like I should try it again 2011-01-23 12:39 what an interesting trick using this Config.in... 2011-01-23 12:40 yes, unfortunately it only works if no vars have been set yet 2011-01-23 12:40 xMff: it's worth a try! do you own a Ben? 2011-01-23 12:41 yes 2011-01-23 12:41 xMff: btw, enabling curl support in opkg won't be easy -\ 2011-01-23 12:41 it errors out? 2011-01-23 12:41 yep\ 2011-01-23 12:42 mipsel-openwrt-linux-uclibc-ar: -L/home/bas/build/openwrt-xburst/staging_dir/target-mipsel_uClibc-0.9.30.1/usr//lib: No such file or directory 2011-01-23 12:43 grr 2011-01-23 12:43 can you provide more context? 2011-01-23 12:43 one sec 2011-01-23 12:45 kyak: ffmpeg Config.in: not work very well . we have "# CONFIG_FFMPEG_PATENTED is not set" in .config, we can still select the mp3: 2011-01-23 12:45 xiangfu@macbook:~/workspace/PanGu/openwrt-xburst$ grep FFMPEG.*mp3=y .config 2011-01-23 12:45 CONFIG_FFMPEG_MUXER_mp3=y 2011-01-23 12:45 xiangfu@macbook:~/workspace/PanGu/openwrt-xburst$ grep PATENTED .config 2011-01-23 12:45 # CONFIG_FFMPEG_PATENTED is not set 2011-01-23 12:46 need goto sleep. see you. 2011-01-23 12:47 xMff: the error: http://pastebin.mandriva.com/21789 2011-01-23 12:48 xiangfu: yep.. seems that Config.in trick is not working, perhaps for the reason xMff mentioned 2011-01-23 13:04 [commit] David Kühling: zgv: fix crash from attempt to start browser in 8-bit videomode http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0e75785 2011-01-23 13:25 [commit] Werner Almesberger: 0805-6.fpd: changed from package-based definition to follow Johanson's design http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/1c573d2 2011-01-23 13:25 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atben.brd: updated balun footprint, some small touch-ups http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e9be007 2011-01-23 13:25 [commit] Werner Almesberger: atusb.brd: updated balun footprint http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/dda673e 2011-01-23 13:36 kristianpaul: congratulations ! was this still with the SIE or already with the MM1 ? 2011-01-23 13:37 wpwrak: sie, 2011-01-23 13:38 I will write a mail when have soemthing on MM1, wich to date is nothing :-) 2011-01-23 13:47 heh, kewl. step by step you're getting there. let's hope Fabrizio can find the codes :) 2011-01-23 14:09 even though you got his name wrong :) 2011-01-23 14:09 [commit] David Kühling: zgv: basic truecolor support for the thumbnail browser http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-packages/0e5906d 2011-01-23 14:13 what? 2011-01-23 14:13 no no 2011-01-23 14:17 isn't it this guy ? http://www.ctae.org/staff/fabrizio-tappero 2011-01-23 14:18 while you wrote "Now with help from Fabrizio Tapper from CTAE" 2011-01-23 14:23 well, seems yes, i hope, but i just take his name from his mails 2011-01-23 14:29 well he is italian, so mistakes with last names are usual, like trying to write/pronounce  my last name after from a enlgish native speaker ;-) 2011-01-23 14:34 ;-)) 2011-01-23 15:05 wpwrak: does atben only use SPI signals for control? 2011-01-23 15:08 neat git with colors is awesome ! 2011-01-23 15:18 Ornotermes: it also has SLP_TR and an IRQ line. http://projects.qi-hardware.com/schhist/atben/ 2011-01-23 15:27 wpwrak: could be interesting to build small gadgets that could interact with ben/pc wireless 2011-01-23 15:29 Ornotermes: indeed :) 2011-01-23 15:31 a small breakoutbord for uSD-card holder is all that's needed, no point in build another version of the board really 2011-01-23 15:38 http://www.intersil.com/data/an/an1325.pdf Choosing and Using Bypass Capacitors 2011-01-23 15:38 nice document 2011-01-23 16:25 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: iverilog simulation file missing http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/162723b 2011-01-23 17:10 [commit] Cristian Paul Peñaranda Rojas: .gitignore created and initialized http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-gps-sdr/bf88df0 2011-01-23 20:08 good idea 2011-01-23 20:09 this.. 12:26 wpwrak: could be interesting to build small gadgets that could interact with ben/pc wireless 2011-01-23 20:09 12:28 Ornotermes: indeed :) 2011-01-23 20:09 12:30 a small breakoutbord for uSD-card holder is all that's needed, no point in build another version of the board really 2011-01-23 20:13 wprak what does the software for atusb look like? (before you add the 6LoWpan layers? just simple stream of bytes 2011-01-23 20:16 rjeffries: the idea for atusb is to just pass the basic accesses to the chip. maybe combine some low-level functions where convenient. nothing more. the bulk of the stack would be on the host. 2011-01-23 20:16 rjeffries: i.e., the atusb firmware wouldn't know how to send or receive a packet 2011-01-23 20:17 ok fine. can it ship byes to radio to be transmitted and read the stream that comes in 2011-01-23 20:17 "usb -> spi interface" :) 2011-01-23 20:17 s/byes/bytes 2011-01-23 20:17 spi is on the radu chip correct 2011-01-23 20:18 s/radu/radio/ 2011-01-23 20:19 steve|m: yup. a tiny bit higher-level, though. but not much. 2011-01-23 20:19 btw, all the code is there, you can easily read what it does yourself ;-) 2011-01-23 20:20 rjeffries: the transceiver has a few access commands: mainly registers and frame. i just map them to USB control transfers. 2011-01-23 20:20 SCLK: Serial Clock (output from master); 2011-01-23 20:20 MOSI; SIMO: Master Output, Slave Input (output from master); 2011-01-23 20:20 MISO; SOMI: Master Input, Slave Output (output from slave); 2011-01-23 20:21 wpwrak: I'm planning something similiar for that m8c rfid reader.. have to write as least as possible in m8c asm :) 2011-01-23 20:21 rjeffries: in the future, it may be convenient to combine some such commands into a single operation, though. but it would still be at the same level of abstraction. 2011-01-23 20:21 so I wiull admit I do not have git installed so I think I can not read your source is that correct 2011-01-23 20:21 steve|m: (avoid m8c) surprise, surprise ;-) 2011-01-23 20:22 rjeffries: not at all :-) http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-wpan/source/tree/master/atusb/fw/atusb/ 2011-01-23 20:22 rjeffries: but git helps. local browsing is always nicer than webbish interfaces 2011-01-23 20:31 unferstood 2011-01-23 20:32 the idea is to keep the device-specific code to a minimum (firmware and kernel driver). then go to some "generic" at86rf231 driver. and so on. 2011-01-23 20:37 that's A Goof Idea 2011-01-23 20:37 damn s/goof/good/ 2011-01-23 20:37 nice typo ;-) 2011-01-23 20:39 *I* am goofy 2011-01-23 21:20 wpwrak: how complex is 6lowpan? 2011-01-23 21:23 hm. needs ipv6, enough ram, 802.15.4 + the at86rf231 driver 2011-01-23 21:23 sounds more like a task for something bigger than a 8bit cpu 2011-01-23 21:39 oh, MM1 RC/RUN 3 on the way... 2011-01-23 21:40 wpwrak: are you making a kernel driver for atben? i tought it was just bitbanging 2011-01-23 22:06 does this mean a new softcpu is planned for MM? oh, MM1 RC/RUN 3 on the way... 2011-01-23 22:06 rjeffries: no no, just other batch of Milkymist One boards i guess :-) 2011-01-23 22:06 i see 2011-01-23 22:07 are any users using MM for VJ gigs or is it a little too rough aroung the edges for now (understandable) 2011-01-23 22:07 Is this channel for electronic help like cuircuits and stuff? =) 2011-01-23 22:08 Joelixny: nope, try #electronics 2011-01-23 22:08 ok thanks 2011-01-23 22:08 rjeffries: for softcore Milkymist questions i think proper place is #milkymist 2011-01-23 22:09 I stad corrected 2011-01-23 22:10 s/stad/stand/ 2011-01-23 22:10 MM is not relly on my radar yet. was just curious is all. 2011-01-23 22:11 sure :-) 2011-01-23 22:15 rjeffries: it's not too rough 2011-01-23 22:15 it works like a charm, out of the box 2011-01-23 22:17 hi wolf. it is none of my beeswax as they used to say. it is a highly complex bundle of FRGAcode so I'd be totally amazed if there are not plenty of teething problems 2011-01-23 22:18 s/FRGAcode/FPGA code/ next topic . 2011-01-23 22:18 you should not care about FPGA actually. what Wolfgang points is true, i realized as one get my M1 and just pluged :-) 2011-01-23 22:19 I'm not known for exaggerating about tech features I think. 2011-01-23 22:19 and Milkydrop efects are wow, i got amazed watching/playing with some of that day 2011-01-23 22:19 there is one bug left, a power-up bug 2011-01-23 22:20 but it's rare and there is a workaround. We hope to track it down before rc3. 2011-01-23 22:20 out to lunch guys, later... 2011-01-23 22:20 he, i dint got that bug yet :-) 2011-01-23 22:20 chao wolfspraul 2011-01-23 22:21 wpwrak: just watching http://6lowpan.net/2010/02/16/seminar-video-released/ right now 2011-01-23 22:25 one last comment befor I apply duct tape to my lips: there is a difference between one bug you know of and all the ones nobody has found yet. I am DELIGHTED that the VJ app works, cool beans. I thought somebody had an issue with large enet frames. 2011-01-23 22:27 back to my project to make an IR dongle for Nanonote. Wolf, no, at this stage I do not yet need a Nanonote 2011-01-23 22:27 I have to learn how to make my own PCB (the 8:10 to breakout cable) 2011-01-23 22:28 then with a loy of study and possinly a little help from Samrt People get the schematic done and reviewed 2011-01-23 22:29 after I build one, borrow my friend's unused Nannote for a while 2011-01-23 22:29 But first I need to convince him to man up and update to latest image 2011-01-23 22:34 In the meanwhile you can make your PCB and Schmatics :-) 2011-01-23 22:35 Yes, i'm having issues with some networking support on the RTEMS port for MM1, but that dint affect Flickernoise or Vj Stuff 2011-01-23 22:35 Is a requirement for my particular need. 2011-01-23 22:37 kristianpaul what is your use case (curiosity only) 2011-01-23 22:40 I need transfer some files from the MM1 to my Desktop Computer using the ethernet 2011-01-23 22:40 or in some _theorical_ case, stream the data 2011-01-23 22:43 ok. what's the a[[licayion or is this a secret that may earn you a gazillion Euros 2011-01-23 22:43 no no 2011-01-23 22:44 Did you read the last mail i sent to the list? 2011-01-23 22:57 I'm off, read you later